why are we not striking on da streets??

Dione

Am I da only person who thinks we are taking things lying down?
I am 26 years old and think our generation should not take wot our government is throwing at us so easily, they are giving us a bone every so often to keep us sweet, sean fitzpatrick brought in for questioning... yeah right!! he is goin home to his safe,cosy home dat we have paid for!!
come on people!! look back to da eighties when people took to da streets, we are so much more educated now but we are bein patronized into thinkin they are doin all they can for us, when they are only lookin out for themselves

theg81der

You go first I`ll be right behing you!

I think its just apathy. Nothing would suprise us now, we expect everyone to be corrupt and full of crap and to cover their own arse enough so we can`t prove or do anything about it.

And no one is poor enough yet to get really angry, I think give it a little bit longer. Maybe not - an election might come first and everyone will vote in Fine Gael :rolleyes: rinse and repeat.

Overheal

These politicians dont seemed Phased by demonstration. And they arent worried about any form of Coup.

rightwingdub

I'd have no problem supporting an anti public sector demonstration on the streets, at least then it might stiffen the governments resolve in standing up to the public sector unions.

Dutchie

Please remind me the last time a demonstration produced any meaningful quantifiable result.

Rented Mule

It's because people are too lazy and will keep taking the shaft as long as the governement gives it to them.

Jip

I can't take any thread seriously that's in text speak and grammar.

Dione

all i am hearing is brainwashed crap! they want us to believe dat a strike wont do any good
they think we are too stupid to see wot is really goin on and too weak to stand up to them, they have us right where they want us and are repeatedly beating us until we are so worn down they can take everythin we have

Dutchie

Dutchie wrote: »

Please remind me the last time a demonstration produced any meaningful quantifiable result.

Jaysus Jip, do you want me to use Shakespearean English in future posts?

Dione

i think he works for fianna fail and is tryin to change da subject!!

MavisDavis

Dione wrote: »

all i am hearing is brainwashed crap! they want us to believe dat a strike wont do any good
they think we are too stupid to see wot is really goin on and too weak to stand up to them, they have us right where they want us and are repeatedly beating us until we are so worn down they can take everythin we have

Sorry, could you clarify why exactly we would be striking? I'd like to know what the protest is essentially about before I dust down my placard..

Biggins

Dutchie wrote: »

Please remind me the last time a demonstration produced any meaningful quantifiable result.

Pensioners - medical cards...?

MavisDavis

Dione wrote: »

i think he works for fianna fail and is tryin to change da subject!!

No, I think he's simply promoting correct usage of the English language. You should try it sometime; punctuation and grammar are fun!

So, Dione, go on then: why strike?

Dione

I sure will mavisdavis... da strike i am referring to would be because of da fact dat our government, banks , property tycoons, fas, priests everyone who we have given our trust to have taken all they can, abused us and laughed at us while rolling in da money and now they are tryin to steal our homes, any bit of luxury we may have jus to keep them in da high life they have become accoustom to
Wake up!!

MavisDavis

Dione wrote: »

I sure will mavisdavis... da strike i am referring to would be because of da fact dat our government, banks , property tycoons, fas, priests everyone who we have given our trust to have taken all they can, abused us and laughed at us while rolling in da money and now they are tryin to steal our homes, any bit of luxury we may have jus to keep them in da high life they have become accoustom to
Wake up!!

So we should all go on strike, causing a further loss of millions from the Irish economy and punishing employers and other people who had nothing to do with this mess? And yourself, because you won't get paid. I don't think it would achieve anything, to be frank.
You're quite right to be cynical about our current state of affairs, but I think you're taking it a bit far.

Dione

I am expressing my opinion, it may be far out but I am sick of watchin da news and gettin so angry at wot they have done to da ordinary working person on da street
wot do u think we can do to take a stand and say no more?

MavisDavis

Dione wrote: »

I am expressing my opinion, it may be far out but I am sick of watchin da news and gettin so angry at wot they have done to da ordinary working person on da street
wot do u think we can do to take a stand and say no more?

I didn't say you shouldn't express your opinion, I just don't fully agree with it.
At the moment? Grin and bear things a bit longer. We can't do anything until there's a general election and sadly our rubbish banking system is a by-product of the rubbish global banking system.
I think they should have sacked the CEO of every bank in the country way back in 2008, but sadly it didn't happen. Also, the inner-workings of the Catholic Church aren't something I can deal with. If they've done something illegal which can be proved in a court of law, arrest them. If they can't be prosecuted, well, I'm an Atheist, so they've never had my support. Only Catholics can 'punish' the Church.

MikeC101

Dione wrote: »

I am expressing my opinion, it may be far out but I am sick of watchin da news and gettin so angry at wot they have done to da ordinary working person on da street
wot do u think we can do to take a stand and say no more?

It's not far out, it's the same rubbish posted on message boards day in, day out. "Let's take to the streets!", "Let's show them we're not taking it anymore".

What are you expecting that to achieve? Random people milling around in confusion. In order for a protest to have any impact it has to be focused.

Dione

thankfully i still have my job and my home but there are alot of people in this country who have bein stripped of both, i think we have done enough grinnin and bearin.
as for an election, its out wit da old in wit da same...
i should have left da church out of it coz dat is another subject

Dione

MikeC101 wrote: »

It's not far out, it's the same rubbish posted on message boards day in, day out. "Let's take to the streets!", "Let's show them we're not taking it anymore".

What are you expecting that to achieve? Random people milling around in confusion. In order for a protest to have any impact it has to be focused.

again a stab but no other solution given

dvpower

Dione wrote: »

Am I da only person who thinks we are taking things lying down?

What exactly do you want?

Dione wrote: »

I am 26 years old and think our generation should not take wot our government is throwing at us so easily, they are giving us a bone every so often to keep us sweet, sean fitzpatrick brought in for questioning... yeah right!! he is goin home to his safe,cosy home dat we have paid for!!
come on people!!

Yes. But specifically what action are you looking for?

MavisDavis

Dione wrote: »

thankfully i still have my job and my home but there are alot of people in this country who have bein stripped of both, i think we have done enough grinnin and bearin.
as for an election, its out wit da old in wit da same...
i should have left da church out of it coz dat is another subject

I would agree that this is to some degree the fault of the government and their predecessors, however, (and it pains me to say this, as I'm not a FF fan at all) that is the nature of a global recession. These boom-periods and slumps come and go all the time. It's the way economics works. No pre-recession laws or regulation could have stopped the inevitability that is an economic slump.
That's by no means meant as an excuse, by the way. It's just..another perspective, I suppose.

Sofiztikated

The. What. You. Sentences.

Read and take note. These can be used, as you don't have a restriction on what you type, and people will be more inclined to take you seriously.

Yes, the banks screwed people, yes the priests screwed people (can I say that?), yes the government screwed us.

But people also have to face up to their own responsibility as well.

Did the banks force you to take out mortgages? No. I looked at buying when I was younger, and even with my limited knowledge, I thought screw that, too expensive, I'll wait a bit.

Did the government force themselves back into office? No, we voted them back in, time and time again, with the promise of less tax and more money. Well, the money has run out, and we need to be taxed.

The priests, well, that I can't excuse.

FAS and the HSE, well, they made a right **** of things there.

I'm not particularly happy with the way things are, and how things have been managed, but d'you what? Stamping your feet, and and saying this isn't fair won't solve anything.

Scofflaw

This is an English-speaking board.

moderately,
Scofflaw