Melatonin and Long term illness

Joey the lips

Hi Folks.

Firstly as per charter I am not looking for medical advice I am simply looking for information

My son has been perscribed Melatonin because he has not been sleeping at night.( For a long time )

Anyway this is not covered under the medical card as its not a listed medicine.

Has anyone managed to secure this under the long term illness program. As he will be on this for a while to come its counted as such.

Obviously you have to take it to understand if its available.

nesf

A number of pharmacists post on this forum: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=392

They should be able to answer your question fairly quickly as to whether it's covered in the LTI scheme. I'd guess it isn't but that'd just be a guess!

Ausone

I am a pharmacist, and I am aware of a child, who has melatonin allowed on their LTI book.
That's the short answer.

However the LTI scheme is in the middle of a shake up.
The best thing to do would be to speak with your pharmacist.

Joey the lips

nesf wrote: »

A number of pharmacists post on this forum: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=392

They should be able to answer your question fairly quickly as to whether it's covered in the LTI scheme. I'd guess it isn't but that'd just be a guess!

Thank you. Will have a look at this tomorrow

Ausone wrote: »

I am a pharmacist, and I am aware of a child, who has melatonin allowed on their LTI book.
That's the short answer.

However the LTI scheme is in the middle of a shake up.
The best thing to do would be to speak with your pharmacist.

and thank you.

kangaroo

If you have to pay for it, melatonin can be got quite cheaply from lots of US supplement companies.

I’m not sure whether there are some which are more professionally prepared than others but then maybe all you will get from the health board is a random supplement company pack?

sam34

kangaroo wrote: »

If you have to pay for it, melatonin can be got quite cheaply from lots of US supplement companies.

I’m not sure whether there are some which are more professionally prepared than others but then maybe all you will get from the health board is a random supplement company pack?

ordering meds online is illegal here in this country

femur61

I think it depends on the pharmacist if it not included on the official list. My pharmasist would put anything down the only pre-equisit is my doctor will sign my LTI book first, which he has no problem with

Joey the lips

kangaroo wrote: »

If you have to pay for it, melatonin can be got quite cheaply from lots of US supplement companies.

I’m not sure whether there are some which are more professionally prepared than others but then maybe all you will get from the health board is a random supplement company pack?

My wife will not order medicine online. Especially from the us... I would if it were me but I understand her concerns with kids.

sam34 wrote: »

ordering meds online is illegal here in this country

Amazon.co.uk was letting me order it... Until my wife stopped me.

femur61 wrote: »

I think it depends on the pharmacist if it not included on the official list. My pharmasist would put anything down the only pre-equisit is my doctor will sign my LTI book first, which he has no problem with

Yes so does my pharmacist and he did. But I think sometimes he takes the hit on this. Its complicated. I went from earning a lot of money to careing and earning the basic. i think he see's this and does not charge me when he should. I appreciate this jesture but dont like the feeling it leaves.

Thats why I am checking

Thanks again folks.


ps: It has yet to work. The doctor said i might need to increase it to 2 :rolleyes:

kangaroo

sam34 wrote: »

ordering meds online is illegal here in this country

What about if you have a prescription?

Kurtosis

kangaroo wrote: »

What about if you have a prescription?

Ditto, it is still illegal. Mail order of prescription medicines is prohibited. Supply by mail order is defined as:

"any supply made, after solicitation of custom by the supplier, or by another person in the chain of supply whether inside or outside of the State, without the supplier and the customer being simultaneously present and using a means of communication at a distance, whether written or electronic, to convey the custom solicitation and the order for supply."

kangaroo

penguin88 wrote: »

Ditto, it is still illegal. Mail order of prescription medicines is prohibited. Supply by mail order is defined as:

"any supply made, after solicitation of custom by the supplier, or by another person in the chain of supply whether inside or outside of the State, without the supplier and the customer being simultaneously present and using a means of communication at a distance, whether written or electronic, to convey the custom solicitation and the order for supply."

Thanks for that which I see is a 2003 law http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/si/0540.html - I thought if you had a prescription you were allowed. I am not used to reading laws - this mentions "solicitation of custom by the supplier" so there's no way if you approach them, that's exempted and/or it only applies to people posting out the substance if in the State?

Kurtosis

kangaroo wrote: »

Thanks for that which I see is a 2003 law http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/si/0540.html - I thought if you had a prescription you were allowed. I am not used to reading laws - this mentions "solicitation of custom by the supplier" so there's no way if you approach them, that's exempted and/or it only applies to people posting out the substance if in the State?

I'm not a legal eagle either, but I do know that the end result of the interpretation is that any online buying of prescription medicines from inside or outside Ireland is not permitted.

Just a guess but if a supplier has a website advertising prescription medicines, would that could as solicitation of custom. The following part seems to refer to solicitation of custom by another person in the chain of supply either, so I'd say it's more covering for all eventualities/loopholes, as opposed to providing an exemption.

Joey the lips

Hi Folks melatonin is listed as a dietry supplement in most countries. Its just not available over the counter here. It is not available on medical either.

_Whimsical_

kangaroo wrote: »

. I am not used to reading laws - this mentions "solicitation of custom by the supplier" so there's no way if you approach them, that's exempted and/or it only applies to people posting out the substance if in the State?

Penguin88 is right Im afraid.I have rang the Irish Medicines Board to clarify this in the past and was given a long explanation but the man I spoke to summed up by saying " if it comes in the post no matter where it comes from or how it's ordered then it's illegal". He did say that if I could have someone bring my prescription to a chemist abroad and have it filled and then return the tablets to me in person then this would be tolerated as the medication I enquired about was substansially cheaper abroad.

stuart c

I just received a letter from the IRISH MEDICINES BOARD stating that they know I imported MELATONIN from the US.They are demanding all details about the transaction.do they have the right/power to do that?

locum-motion

stuart c wrote: »

I just received a letter from the IRISH MEDICINES BOARD stating that they know I imported MELATONIN from the US.They are demanding all details about the transaction.do they have the right/power to do that?

Yes, of course they do. They're the Irish Medicines Board.

gctest50

stuart c wrote: »

I just received a letter from the IRISH MEDICINES BOARD stating that they know I imported MELATONIN from the US.They are demanding all details about the transaction.do they have the right/power to do that?

They are available over the counter in America - but its not a good idea to bring them in

- what you received could have anything at all in them

Look at the photo attached - if you can make homemade ones look as "fancy" as those - you can make them look like anything