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Freesat Receiver with RF Out?

  • 18-03-2010 9:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    Can anyone recommend a decent low price Freesat Receiver with an RF Out. I want to connect a Magic Eye to feed it to another room?


    D.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Finne1993


    A Sky box is the best bet, you'll get all the freesat channels and more on it, only thing is you'll see the full Sky EPG including the channels you don't have but you can sort out the FTA ones in the favorites section anyway.
    Most of the freesat boxes have no RF out and any that have are'nt compatible with the magic eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Dummy


    Thanks Finne,

    I was thinking that OK and have used this before. But as you say, I will get the full Sky EPG.

    Good idea though using the favourites - hadn't thought of that.


    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    b&Q have full system for 50 euro , dish and box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Dummy


    James - any idea of make and model?

    This sounds interesting.


    Thanks


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    james finn wrote: »
    b&Q have full system for 50 euro , dish and box

    It's a free to air satellite kit that B&Q sell not a Freesat system it also has no Rf output or 7 day epg.
    Although It would be a better quality system than whats sold in Aldi/Lidl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    i have the B&Q sat and find it great, its a ross satellite,

    you should contact B&Q liffey valley and its so easy to fit, had mine working in less than 2 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭DerMutt


    A proper Freesat box will cost you about €80. This will have the full 8 day EPG, iPlayer/Kangaroo compatibility but won't have an RF out as it's not part of the spec.
    The cheap FTA boxes like the ones from B&Q, Maplin, Aldi, etc. will need to be tuned manually and don't have a proper EPG, only Now and Next.
    A new Sky Digibox will be about €150 but is the best compromise and will give you pretty much what you're after. You'll have to spend another €10 or so on a Magic Eye for the other room too, and €15 for a second remote.
    I have a Freesat HDR in my sitting room and an old Sky box in the bedroom set up using the Favourites like @Finne1993 mentioned. There's not a lot between them but the Freesat EPG is much nicer.
    One small thing is that you can put in a BT postcode and get UTV/BBC NI on the Freesat Box whereas the Sky box will default to London. You'll have to tune in UTV as an extra channel and BBC1 NI is high up in the 900s. Also remember that you are restricted to 50 Favourites on the Sky setup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭james finn


    Benefits
    • The Ross Satellite Kit gives you everything you need to receive FREE-TO-AIR Satellite Digital TV from anywhere in the UK or EIRE
    • Provides over 220 channels and 100 Radio stations FREE OF CHARGE
    • Option to receive 1,000’s of FOREIGN Language channels from all over the world
    • Save money – No need for expensive Digital TV subscriptions
    Features
    • The Ross Satellite Receiver is fully DVBS and MPEG-2 compliant and picks up all channels currently available from Eurobird1 and Astra 1 2A/2B/2D Satellites
    • Receiver can search channels by Satellite and stores up to 4,000 programs
    • Power off channel memorization, parental lock and digital LED display
    • Programme information guide displays 9 channels per page
    • Remote control has zoom function, 7 channel favourites memory and is easy to use
    The Kit includes
    • 65cm Diameter Satellite Dish
    • Roof Terrace/Wall mount
    • Fully adjustable mounting bracket
    • 10mm F type Satellite Cable, connectors and clips
    • Digital single LNB
    • Full Installation Instructions
    • Set up guide for finding Astra and Eurobird Satellites

    50 EURO IN b&q


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    james finn wrote: »
    Benefits
    • The Ross Satellite Kit gives you everything you need to receive FREE-TO-AIR Satellite Digital TV from anywhere in the UK or EIRE
    • Provides over 220 channels and 100 Radio stations FREE OF CHARGE
    • Option to receive 1,000’s of FOREIGN Language channels from all over the world
    • Save money – No need for expensive Digital TV subscriptions
    Features
    • The Ross Satellite Receiver is fully DVBS and MPEG-2 compliant and picks up all channels currently available from Eurobird1 and Astra 1 2A/2B/2D Satellites
    • Receiver can search channels by Satellite and stores up to 4,000 programs
    • Power off channel memorization, parental lock and digital LED display
    • Programme information guide displays 9 channels per page
    • Remote control has zoom function, 7 channel favourites memory and is easy to use
    The Kit includes
    • 65cm Diameter Satellite Dish
    • Roof Terrace/Wall mount
    • Fully adjustable mounting bracket
    • 10mm F type Satellite Cable, connectors and clips
    • Digital single LNB
    • Full Installation Instructions
    • Set up guide for finding Astra and Eurobird Satellites

    50 EURO IN b&q

    James all free to air satellite kits being sold in shops have all the same Info that you posted
    Although the B&Q system is good value for €50 compared to Aldi/Lidl
    The receiver does not support a 7-8 day electronic program guide
    It does not have a RF output to feed other TVs that's what the 1st poster wants His best option is a non sub sky box.
    All free to air boxes including your one needs to be retuned reguarly thats something that an ordinary non technical minded person would find hard to do FREESAT boxes dont need to be retuned. Free to air may provide over 200 channels infact there is roughly 340 channels available on the Astra2/Eurobird satellite but there is 60 to 70 channels worth looking at.
    And the only way you can pick up 1,000’s of FOREIGN Language channels from all over the world would be to have more than 1 dish on your house or get a 1 metre or bigger dish and a motor fitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Why not just use a wireless video sender with a Freesat box. At least you will get Stereo Sound. (easy setup)

    You could use TVLink TVM (modulator) and TVlink plus, to send scart only device via coax. (not sure if power injector is needed or if the TVM will supply power)

    Or if easy to run long cables, make up long RCA type cable or even scart/HDMI and use TVLink plus with a power injector on the existing coax for remote signal only. This option will give stereo sound and better picture but may be very impractical depending on house layout.
    (a long HDMI cable may require HDMI over cat5 Bulons).

    And before you put down James Finn too much how about buying a decent Freesat+ box for main room and the crappy B&Q box for bed room (possibly best option least messing around and independent selection of TV channels.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Dummy


    Thank you for all of the replies.

    Maybe if I explain my objective more clearly.

    I have a Lexcom CAT7 network in the house. The patch panel (or distribution centre as they call it) is made up of a number of different modules - phone, data, tv etc.

    Basically what i am looking to do is connect a Freesat receiver into the TV module to distribute it to the kitchen and bedroom. The system comes IR links for each room where I want to have a TV point.

    Here is an explanation of the TV module which may help - http://www.ibn-01.com/intelligenthome/group/220/lexcom-home-modules

    Here is a PDF with more detail - http://www.smartahus.nu/Downloads/PDF/monteringsanvisningar/LXH_R-TV_Module_A110_NEUTRAL_97668_04.pdf


    Thanks again.

    D


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    Dummy you could consider some thing like this if your other rooms are fed by coaxial
    http://www.satshop.co.uk/section142/product1289/Triax-tri-link-kit.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    DerMutt wrote: »
    A new Sky Digibox will be about €150 but is the best compromise and will give you pretty much what you're after. You'll have to spend another €10 or so on a Magic Eye for the other room too, and €15 for a second remote.
    I didn't think Five was on the epg if you were using a sky reciever for FTA? Obviously, you could extend it with the FTV card.

    You can get a Bush SD Freesat Receiver for stg£30 at the moment. Not sure about the RF out. Despite the negative reputation, I can't say we've had any problems with the Bush Receiver, albeit as a second reciever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Dummy


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I didn't think Five was on the epg if you were using a sky reciever for FTA? Obviously, you could extend it with the FTV card.

    You can get a Bush SD Freesat Receiver for stg£30 at the moment. Not sure about the RF out. Despite the negative reputation, I can't say we've had any problems with the Bush Receiver, albeit as a second reciever.

    Would the FTV card in the Sky receiver eliminate the standard Sky EPG replacing it with only the Freesat channels? If yes, then that is my solution.

    Also if yes, how do I get a FTV card?

    Thank you for this.

    D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,579 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    A FTV card doesn't change the channel line up on a sky epg - you'll still be using the "favourites" option and have lots of gaps in the epg.

    I'd say there's a few threads on getting a FTV card if you do a search.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Dummy wrote: »
    Thank you for all of the replies.

    Maybe if I explain my objective more clearly.

    I have a Lexcom CAT7 network in the house. The patch panel (or distribution centre as they call it) is made up of a number of different modules - phone, data, tv etc.

    Basically what i am looking to do is connect a Freesat receiver into the TV module to distribute it to the kitchen and bedroom. The system comes IR links for each room where I want to have a TV point.

    Here is an explanation of the TV module which may help - http://www.ibn-01.com/intelligenthome/group/220/lexcom-home-modules

    Here is a PDF with more detail - http://www.smartahus.nu/Downloads/PDF/monteringsanvisningar/LXH_R-TV_Module_A110_NEUTRAL_97668_04.pdf


    Thanks again.

    D

    From reading the PDF you need a Lexcom home modulator connected to the AV port and then any receiver you like. Sounds like you want a Freesat receiver to avoid messy Sky EPG. IR signals are already routed and if you have the modulator then you don't need an RF out.

    Not sure how IR system works, if its designed for SKY then you may need a TVlink Plus, if its designed for General AV equipment then it already has transmitter and receiver IR modules so you should be OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭DerMutt


    Right, the Lexcom CAT7 network puts this in a whole new light. Looks like you're tied in to whoever supplied the system for your kit. I'm assuming you don't have a co-ax setup side by side with the CAT7 cables.

    You will need an AV Modulator (pdf) with Scart/Phono cable to connect to the Sat box and a TV Cord (pdf) which will connect straight into the TV in the other room.

    It looks like it has a 12V modulated carrier for the IR, similar to the Sky system. You can get 12V IR receivers and emitters for about €50 which will connect either end so you can operate the box via remote. Receiver goes in the second room and emitter looks at Sat box.

    @emaherx The TVLink won't work in this case as it's RF based.

    @Macy0161 You're right Five is NOT available FTA on Sky, you need a white FTV card (STG£30) in a Sky box or a Freesat box to get it. Didn't realise the Bush ones were that cheap now, they don't have RF out either :(


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