Tipperary reunification?

irishleedsfan

I dont have a link but there is a story about it on the Tipperary star website! So would ye be in favour?

Ponster

Was it ever unified in the first place?

What difference if any would it actually make?

tippspur

Is it just county councils joining together,one councle instead of two ?

PhatPiggins

tippspur wrote: »

Is it just county councils joining together,one councle instead of two ?

Logically this should mean that there will be a reduction in the numbers of councilors and an increase in work place efficiency.

What will actually happen: no one will be let go,they will give themselves a raise and all increases in inefficiency will be blamed on "the restructurin".

A bit like that baston of stupidity that is the HSE

Fionn

i'd say - if it aint broke eh?

PhatPiggins

Fionn wrote: »

i'd say - if it aint broke eh?

I know the flood prevention scheme in Clonmel and the road works around Thurlus are great examples of the two councils at work.

mysterious

Well Nenagh is the fastest growing towns and is one of the most prosperous, I can't see Nenagh giving up its place to be not running most of Tipperary. I don't mind both uniting. They are united in every way accept politically. Tipperary is a large county and is divided physically by a few mountain ranges in mid Tipp. Since the main population centres are on the far reaches of the county. The two largest towns Clonmel and Nenagh are an hour apart. The distance in the old days was much greater and thats one of the main reasons the English separated the county into two ridings.


I suspect Nenagh to surpass the population of Clonmel in the next 20 years. Nenagh is grew from 6,400 to ,7,800 in the last census. Clonmel has remained static and even decreasing in the town and only increasing slightly in the suburbs.

Nenagh still has many projects in the pipeline in the next few years. There is a good few town centre sites that are to be developed. I'm not sure whats going on in Clonmel.

But I'd like to see Nenagh, Roscrea, Thurles running North Tipp with business as usual.

tippspur

tippspur wrote: »

Is it just county councils joining together,one councle instead of two ?

One unitary council making complete boll*cks of what two separate councils are making a boll*cks of at the moment. the roads in north tipp are scandalous and the ones in south tipp are bad enough

pooch90

The ones in South Tipp especially around Cahir/Clonmel are an absolute disgrace. Cheap patching jobs done after bad weather are now coming off the road leaving huge craters YET AGAIN. It's a bloody joke, I've already wrecked one car from constantly driving on them and now in danger of wrecking Mr. Pooch's car too.

PhatPiggins

mysterious wrote: »

Well Nenagh is the fastest growing towns and is one of the most prosperous, I can't see Nenagh giving up its place to be not running most of Tipperary. I don't mind both uniting. They are united in every way accept politically. Tipperary is a large county and is divided physically by a few mountain ranges in mid Tipp. Since the main population centres are on the far reaches of the county. The two largest towns Clonmel and Nenagh are an hour apart. The distance in the old days was much greater and thats one of the main reasons the English separated the county into two ridings.


I suspect Nenagh to surpass the population of Clonmel in the next 20 years. Nenagh is grew from 6,400 to ,7,800 in the last census. Clonmel has remained static and even decreasing in the town and only increasing slightly in the suburbs.

Nenagh still has many projects in the pipeline in the next few years. There is a good few town centre sites that are to be developed. I'm not sure whats going on in Clonmel.

But I'd like to see Nenagh, Roscrea, Thurles running North Tipp with business as usual.

You mean running it into the ground surely? All you need up there in badit country is a Native Casino. You could make it the size of a vegas resort. Use public and private money to build it. All you need is a corrupt politician to sell the idea and push through the planning.........oh wait.

All together now : "Monorail,monorail........monorail"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw

In fairness its pretty crap in TS too but they should keep the councils seperate just so we can take the piss out of each other.

tippspur

pooch90 wrote: »

The ones in South Tipp especially around Cahir/Clonmel are an absolute disgrace. Cheap patching jobs done after bad weather are now coming off the road leaving huge craters YET AGAIN. It's a bloody joke, I've already wrecked one car from constantly driving on them and now in danger of wrecking Mr. Pooch's car too.

The government won't give the funding to do a proper job on the roads,so patching is the best the council can do.Noel Dempsey said there was no more money for roads.:mad:

Deedsie

6 TD's is too many for Tipperary. It should be a five seater electorally. But leave the two councils North and South. The only other option is a new county council office in Thurles.

Fionn

hmmm 6 TDs is almost 6 too many :rolleyes:

it's crazy really when you think about it;

UK Population - 61,383,000 MPs - 646
Republic of Ireland population - 4,239,848 TDs - 166

Fionn

Fionn wrote: »

hmmm 6 TDs is almost 6 too many :rolleyes:

it's crazy really when you think about it;

UK Population - 61,383,000 MPs - 646
Republic of Ireland population - 4,239,848 TDs - 166

Its absolutely crazy! I never looked at it like that. I Wonder what our earnings incl "expenses" would be like by comparison to the UK MP's?

tippspur

tippspur wrote: »

The government won't give the funding to do a proper job on the roads,so patching is the best the council can do.Noel Dempsey said there was no more money for roads.:mad:

To quote the Richie Kavanagh song, "Sure i don't blame the council, their backs are to the wall but id blame them fancy fellas sitting down there in the dail. Holy Ireland, Holy Ireland...."

PhatPiggins

Fionn wrote: »

hmmm 6 TDs is almost 6 too many :rolleyes:

it's crazy really when you think about it;

UK Population - 61,383,000 MPs - 646
Republic of Ireland population - 4,239,848 TDs - 166

OK its nuts and we have far too many but TD's in Ireland are basically agony aunts and have to be on call 24 hours a day. If you want a passport,reference,appeal a fine/sentence,issue with planning,problem with grants,etc etc you ring your TD.

Politics in Ireland is far too parochial if we could get TD's to concentrate on running the country and not listening to Mrs Murphy complain about the non nationals for about 6 hours a day we'd be on the right track. Unfortunately its Mrs Murphy who votes so they have to listen.

tippspur

PhatPiggins wrote: »

OK its nuts and we have far too many but TD's in Ireland are basically agony aunts and have to be on call 24 hours a day. If you want a passport,reference,appeal a fine/sentence,issue with planning,problem with grants,etc etc you ring your TD.

Politics in Ireland is far too parochial if we could get TD's to concentrate on running the country and not listening to Mrs Murphy complain about the non nationals for about 6 hours a day we'd be on the right track. Unfortunately its Mrs Murphy who votes so they have to listen.

Jobs for the boys is all it is.:mad: