IS THERE AN INTERVIEW FOR JSA?

dutchcat

Have asked a few people about this and getting different answers,3 people this week say the recieved a letter and form to say their jsb was running out and just fill the form out and send it back. Only one was contacted for his wifes pay slips and all have got it now,no further action, has anyone experinced this? thanks

Dragon_fly

Yes, my understanding is that an interview with a local DSFA inspector is standard - I had mine 3 weeks ago.

I received a letter just before Christmas advising JSB would run out in March 2010. Even though I filled out JSA application and had it back to social welfare on January 4th, only had interview at end of February and my application is still 'in process'.

Had to go to local CWO to get supplementary payment in the meantime - there seems to be a delay of anything from a few weeks to longer in processing JSA applications: even if you think you're just transferring from JSB to JSA, you're not - it's treated as a new application.

cee_jay

Some offices are doing "low risk" applications by desk assessment, and they won't have to meet with an inspector - they will just request a lot of documentation from you and assess your means by this.

Dempo1

cAr0l wrote: »

Some offices are doing "low risk" applications by desk assessment, and they won't have to meet with an inspector - they will just request a lot of documentation from you and assess your means by this.

Thats interesting cAr0l, My JSB is up in on the 14th May and i have not heard a peep out of the social welfare, others seemed to have got prior notification. Single, Irish, Mortgage holder (so resident) and a file the lenght of an average desk with job applications, i assume i am not considered a risk as such? I think its perhaps time to visit the social welfare office and find out what the situation is, that is if its open. I am told however i can not apply for JSA until i am notified, i was hoping i could at least get the ball rolling although thankfully jobs front may be looking up!

Elessar

What does the interview involve? What do they want you to bring?

Dempo1

Elessar wrote: »

What does the interview involve? What do they want you to bring?

I was under the impression the inspector comes to your home? i may be wrong but if your attending an interview you will need

A. Proof of address - Utility Bill
B. Recent Bank Statements (3 months old minimum)
C. Photo ID
D. Details of residence, Mortgage details or Rent details
E. Proof of seeking employment, can be email corresspondance with dates, letters from prospective employers who may have not accepted applications etc (This is an important issue)
F. Fas registration details (important also, details when you registered, have you done any courses etc?
G. If you have dependents, children etc details

I noticed they also ask for P.45, however this may not be possible if you have come off JSB as most likely you will have submitted it for initial JSB claim and like myself submitted the remainder to Revenue along with P.50 to claim back some tax due to unemployment!

The above are standard must have details required!

Elessar

Dempo1 wrote: »

I was under the impression the inspector comes to your home? i may be wrong but if your attending an interview you will need

A. Proof of address - Utility Bill
B. Recent Bank Statements (3 months old minimum)
C. Photo ID
D. Details of residence, Mortgage details or Rent details
E. Proof of seeking employment, can be email corresspondance with dates, letters from prospective employers who may have not accepted applications etc (This is an important issue)
F. Fas registration details (important also, details when you registered, have you done any courses etc?
G. If you have dependents, children etc details

I noticed they also ask for P.45, however this may not be possible if you have come off JSB as most likely you will have submitted it for initial JSB claim and like myself submitted the remainder to Revenue along with P.50 to claim back some tax due to unemployment!

The above are standard must have details required!

Thanks, do they ask for 3 or 6 months bank statements? And what if you don't have any proof of looking for a job? I've sent CVs out everywhere and called around but have no actual PFO letters or emails from any employers. I am registered with FAS however.

IrishTonyO

Elessar wrote: »

Thanks, do they ask for 3 or 6 months bank statements? And what if you don't have any proof of looking for a job? I've sent CVs out everywhere and called around but have no actual PFO letters or emails from any employers. I am registered with FAS however.

I was asked for 6 months of bank statements

Dempo1

Yes its a difficult one re proof of looking for work, they used to give people silly forms for employers claimants visited looking for Jobs to stamp. Employers got pissed off after being inundated with people calling to doors, receptions etc looking for these ridiculous forms to be stamped as proof people were seeking work and refused to stamp or entertain cold calling. This practice has now stopped.

What will suffice is email applications to Jobs, i appreciate employers and especially recruitment agencies rarely bother to reply to applicants so proof of sending an resume etc should suffice, just print of any emails sent insuring the dates of sending are printed also.

RE: Bank statements, i think you should be OK with 3 months unless otherwise stated.

dutchcat

Dempo1 wrote: »

I was under the impression the inspector comes to your home? i may be wrong but if your attending an interview you will need

A. Proof of address - Utility Bill
B. Recent Bank Statements (3 months old minimum)
C. Photo ID
D. Details of residence, Mortgage details or Rent details
E. Proof of seeking employment, can be email corresspondance with dates, letters from prospective employers who may have not accepted applications etc (This is an important issue)
F. Fas registration details (important also, details when you registered, have you done any courses etc?
G. If you have dependents, children etc details
where did you compile this list from? is this info available on the net someplace because i have looked and can't find, ialso think it would be unreasonable for them to ask for proof of seeking work as most don't reply in any form

Elessar

Hi all,

Just thought I'd update you. I handed my JSA application in this morning after receiving the letter that JSB is running out. I was told it's usually done straight away and I'll get a letter next week. No interview or waiting 3 months. The receptionist wouldn't even give me a letter for the CWO because he was adamant it will be processed straight away and there'll be no break in my payments.

The JSB runs out in two weeks so I'll let you all know if it is indeed true.

Dempo1

Elessar wrote: »

Hi all,

Just thought I'd update you. I handed my JSA application in this morning after receiving the letter that JSB is running out. I was told it's usually done straight away and I'll get a letter next week. No interview or waiting 3 months. The receptionist wouldn't even give me a letter for the CWO because he was adamant it will be processed straight away and there'll be no break in my payments.

The JSB runs out in two weeks so I'll let you all know if it is indeed true.

This is intriguing and hopefully good news, i have been following another thread re waiting times for JSA after JSB runs out (will happen to me in a months time), although just offered a job, Yippee!

There are so many conflicting stories out there and some horrendous examples of people being left with nothing for extended periods. I do hope you have been informed correctly. Can i inquire are you based in a large town or rural location, this appears to make a difference?

Elessar

Dempo1 wrote: »

This is intriguing and hopefully good news, i have been following another thread re waiting times for JSA after JSB runs out (will happen to me in a months time), although just offered a job, Yippee!

There are so many conflicting stories out there and some horrendous examples of people being left with nothing for extended periods. I do hope you have been informed correctly. Can i inquire are you based in a large town or rural location, this appears to make a difference?

This is in Dublin, specifically the North Cumberland st. welfare office.

Dempo1

Elessar wrote: »

This is in Dublin, specifically the North Cumberland st. welfare office.

Great, i am happy for you and fingers crossed it will work out. One thing that does surprise me was no Interview? i would have thought this was mandatory. Another thing that seems to becoming apparent is profiling of applicants, by this i mean the SW seem to pick and choose people for Interview. I have been on JSB for almost a year, first time unemployed since 1989, single but mortgage holder etc. It is just curious how they pick and choose interviewee's?

Elessar

Dempo1 wrote: »

Great, i am happy for you and fingers crossed it will work out. One thing that does surprise me was no Interview? i would have thought this was mandatory. Another thing that seems to becoming apparent is profiling of applicants, by this i mean the SW seem to pick and choose people for Interview. I have been on JSB for almost a year, first time unemployed since 1989, single but mortgage holder etc. It is just curious how they pick and choose interviewee's?

Thanks I think it's based a lot off what outgoings you have and who you live with. Me, I'm a 24 year old who lives at home with one parent who is the sole earner (who doesn't make enough for the benefit&privilege clause to make any difference). I think they see that and assume I am low risk so just put me straight on.

Dempo1

Elessar wrote: »

Thanks I think it's based a lot off what outgoings you have and who you live with. Me, I'm a 24 year old who lives at home with one parent who is the sole earner (who doesn't make enough for the benefit&privilege clause to make any difference). I think they see that and assume I am low risk so just put me straight on.

Fingers crossed and best wishes, keep me posted!

cee_jay

Dempo1 wrote: »

Thats interesting cAr0l, My JSB is up in on the 14th May and i have not heard a peep out of the social welfare, others seemed to have got prior notification. Single, Irish, Mortgage holder (so resident) and a file the lenght of an average desk with job applications, i assume i am not considered a risk as such? I think its perhaps time to visit the social welfare office and find out what the situation is, that is if its open. I am told however i can not apply for JSA until i am notified, i was hoping i could at least get the ball rolling although thankfully jobs front may be looking up!

Only some offices are doing desk assessment for JSA as far as I know. For assessment of means they won't care about your job applications. Thats all about any money or other forms of income you may have.

Elessar

Just to update the thread, my JSA has been awarded (only 8 quid less than full amount)! Should be able to collect this Friday.

I had gone to the community welfare office today because I had heard nothing and my JSB just ran out. He couldn't do anything because my claim had not appeared on his computer system.

So I went back in to the welfare office and the receptionist explained that they could not do anything until my JSB expired on the system, which explains the three week wait. I was assured it will be this week.

Sure enough I get a call from the CWO telling me the JSA has been awarded by welfare of almost the full amount.

Thank god for that!!

IrishTonyO

Elessar wrote: »

Just to update the thread, my JSA has been awarded (only 8 quid less than full amount)! Should be able to collect this Friday.

I had gone to the community welfare office today because I had heard nothing and my JSB just ran out. He couldn't do anything because my claim had not appeared on his computer system.

So I went back in to the welfare office and the receptionist explained that they could not do anything until my JSB expired on the system, which explains the three week wait. I was assured it will be this week.

Sure enough I get a call from the CWO telling me the JSA has been awarded by welfare of almost the full amount.

Thank god for that!!

Good to hear, must be a relief

Grumpypants

Elessar wrote: »

Just to update the thread, my JSA has been awarded (only 8 quid less than full amount)! Should be able to collect this Friday.

I had gone to the community welfare office today because I had heard nothing and my JSB just ran out. He couldn't do anything because my claim had not appeared on his computer system.

So I went back in to the welfare office and the receptionist explained that they could not do anything until my JSB expired on the system, which explains the three week wait. I was assured it will be this week.

Sure enough I get a call from the CWO telling me the JSA has been awarded by welfare of almost the full amount.

Thank god for that!!

What do they ask you in the interview ? I have mine on monday morning. Have everything in order but im still nervous about interviews anyway.

Elessar

Sure is a relief!

I didn't have to have an interview but if you search I think there are some examples.

Nehaxak

I moved from JSB to JSA recently and it was all sorted at the desk, I got the JSA roughly about a week later, so no waiting at all.

Means test was done there and then and they were all very nice and helpful in the local social welfare office here.

I then got another form (2 pages) to fill in via the post asking me to provide information in regards job applications, where I've applied etc.,
Only trouble was, NONE of the jobs I'd applied for (and there were loads) ever bothered to even acknowledge or send either an email, letter or make a phonecall to say I'd not been successful. I presume I'm not alone in this and am hoping the form was ok that I dropped back to them - receptionist wouldn't even let me queue for the hatch, she just took the form and said she'd give it to them

I just filled it in anyway best I could with details and general dates of places I'd applied for jobs.

Has anyone ever gotten one of those forms to fill in before after applying for JSA ?

Am I alone in not ever even receiving a thank you for applying letter/email from places or a "you're unsuccessful this time" or similar ?

Dempo1

Nehaxak wrote: »

I moved from JSB to JSA recently and it was all sorted at the desk, I got the JSA roughly about a week later, so no waiting at all.

Means test was done there and then and they were all very nice and helpful in the local social welfare office here.

I then got another form (2 pages) to fill in via the post asking me to provide information in regards job applications, where I've applied etc.,
Only trouble was, NONE of the jobs I'd applied for (and there were loads) ever bothered to even acknowledge or send either an email, letter or make a phonecall to say I'd not been successful. I presume I'm not alone in this and am hoping the form was ok that I dropped back to them - receptionist wouldn't even let me queue for the hatch, she just took the form and said she'd give it to them

I just filled it in anyway best I could with details and general dates of places I'd applied for jobs.

Has anyone ever gotten one of those forms to fill in before after applying for JSA ?

Am I alone in not ever even receiving a thank you for applying letter/email from places or a "you're unsuccessful this time" or similar ?

Congrats in getting the transfer from JSB to JSA so quickly, there are horrendous stories of people in this situation being left for weeks and in some cases months waiting for applications to be processed, also you are fortunate in not having had to have an interview prior to approval.

On the Job applications responses, sadly you are not alone, particularly if you used recruitment agencies. Its quite shocking how little regard is given to those applying for jobs, even common courtesy seems to gone out the window. Basically you need to keep track of all and any applications and keep all emails, letters sent. In addition they will ask you when and if you registered with FAS. As an aside, the welfare used to give claimants silly forms to have stamped by any employers claimants approached seeking work, employers got such a pain in the ass with cold callers etc, they eventually refused and the practice was stopped about a year ago. The welfare are fully aware few employers are responding to applications, unless of course you have been successful or considered for interview.

Grumpypants

Just back from my interview this morning takes about 10-15 mins. They just take some basic info run through the form and fill it out. Nothing too bad nor did i feel like i was being questioned or that they where trying to catch me out. All very plesant. He will write a report and send it to a deciding officer who make the call. Said it could take up to 2 months to process because they are snowed under.

eyesofvenus

Grumpypants wrote: »

Just back from my interview this morning takes about 10-15 mins. They just take some basic info run through the form and fill it out. Nothing too bad nor did i feel like i was being questioned or that they where trying to catch me out. All very plesant. He will write a report and send it to a deciding officer who make the call. Said it could take up to 2 months to process because they are snowed under.

I did the interview last wednesday, which it took me 6 weeks to get from my last payment(payment of JSB stopped on 1st march, interview was 14th april). So what you are saying is even after waiting the weeks for the interview we may still have to wait a further 8 weeks to get a decision?? thats madness, most of the paperwork is now done and all that is left is some guy/girl look over claim and documents for 4-5 mins and decide, it's silly

Grumpypants

eyesofvenus wrote: »

I did the interview last wednesday, which it took me 6 weeks to get from my last payment(payment of JSB stopped on 1st march, interview was 14th april). So what you are saying is even after waiting the weeks for the interview we may still have to wait a further 8 weeks to get a decision?? thats madness, most of the paperwork is now done and all that is left is some guy/girl look over claim and documents for 4-5 mins and decide, it's silly

Yea it took me 6 weeks to get my interview. I gave in all the documents to the hatch. They looked at them and gave them to the inspector. HE then called me for the interview. Took the same info i had already submitted. And now it goes to a 3rd person to decide ?? Why the inspector cant be the deciding officer too i dont understand.

My JSB runs out Wendnesday.

eyesofvenus

Grumpypants wrote: »

Yea it took me 6 weeks to get my interview. I gave in all the documents to the hatch. They looked at them and gave them to the inspector. HE then called me for the interview. Took the same info i had already submitted. And now it goes to a 3rd person to decide ?? Why the inspector cant be the deciding officer too i dont understand.

My JSB runs out Wendnesday.

At least your's is getting sorted before your JSB run's out!! i put in form 9 weeks ago now and have been without a payment for 6 weeks, I hope to hear from them this week, the inspector told me I had all documents they needed to process it so with a bit of luck it will come through this week

Dempo1

eyesofvenus wrote: »

At least your's is getting sorted before your JSB run's out!! i put in form 9 weeks ago now and have been without a payment for 6 weeks, I hope to hear from them this week, the inspector told me I had all documents they needed to process it so with a bit of luck it will come through this week

Its an extraordinary state of affairs, i am amazed at the amount of people running out of JSB and being left weeks if not months for JSA to be processed or approved. I was led to believe that once your application was recieved, you could apply to the CWO for payment whilst the JSA application was being processed? have you had to survive with no income for all this time? how in heavens did you if thats the case?

Grumpypants

You would think that if there was a 2 month waiting time they would send out the letters 2 to 3 months before the JSB runs out not 2 weeks.

rexton270

Hi guys, just my 2 pence ( sorry if hi-jacking thread):
my JSB run out on 21 Dec 2009. Received letter from SW on 15 Dec 2009 that my payment would stop soon and should apply for JSA. Was told the same, that moving from JSB to JSA is a matter of 3-4 weeks. However, didn't went that way, so I filled all the sent forms incl. "Means Test" and handed in to office on 4th January 2010. Had my interview on 22nd February 2010 and since then "pending"...

CWO officer told me that I am not entitled to anything as my partner is a full-time employee (30 hrs pw - €315).

Meath

Dempo1

rexton270 wrote: »

Hi guys, just my 2 pence ( sorry if hi-jacking thread):
my JSB run out on 21 Dec 2009. Received letter from SW on 15 Dec 2009 that my payment would stop soon and should apply for JSA. Was told the same, that moving from JSB to JSA is a matter of 3-4 weeks. However, didn't went that way, so I filled all the sent forms incl. "Means Test" and handed in to office on 4th January 2010. Had my interview on 22nd February 2010 and since then "pending"...

CWO officer told me that I am not entitled to anything as my partner is a full-time employee (30 hrs pw - €315).

Meath

Jees, is there any end to this nonsense, no organisation seems to be addressing this serious issue with delays in processing JSA for those coming off JSB, its outrageous and i am amazed there is not a fuss being made over this, the passport saga got plenty of headlines, this situation, nothing! Those who were on JSB earned that right through previous years of employment and contributions, it seems to me these people are being victimised for loosing their jobs because of a small bunch of W%^N£R'S who have destroyed prospects. The disgrace is only further highlighted by the fact the SW have those applicants on JSB full information, details of circumstances etc, this process should be only a matter of updating basic info, instead claimants are being but through silly means tests, required to fill out ridicoulous forms and then suffer the indignity of having to visit grubby health centres to meet up with CWO'S that don't appear to have a clue about the system and THEIR responsibilities to those in real need.

The JSB TO JSA is going to get worse as i suspect 1,000's of claimants are now running out of JSB, the system is going to collapse is someone at the SW does not get their fingers out!

rexton270

Dempo1 wrote: »

Jees, is there any end to this nonsense, no organisation seems to be addressing this serious issue with delays in processing JSA for those coming off JSB, its outrageous and i am amazed there is not a fuss being made over this, the passport saga got plenty of headlines, this situation, nothing! Those who were on JSB earned that right through previous years of employment and contributions, it seems to me these people are being victimised for loosing their jobs because of a small bunch of W%^N£R'S who have destroyed prospects. The disgrace is only further highlighted by the fact the SW have those applicants on JSB full information, details of circumstances etc, this process should be only a matter of updating basic info, instead claimants are being but through silly means tests, required to fill out ridicoulous forms and then suffer the indignity of having to visit grubby health centres to meet up with CWO'S that don't appear to have a clue about the system and THEIR responsibilities to those in real need.

The JSB TO JSA is going to get worse as i suspect 1,000's of claimants are now running out of JSB, the system is going to collapse is someone at the SW does not get their fingers out!

Was told that there's a few months "backlog" and have to wait...Which is f****n ridicolous as have to pay rent,bills etc. Thanx God had my redundancy payment, which is now gone so it doesn't look good at all. Just wondering,what will happened when landlord lose his patience (so far rent is up to date) and ask me to leave. Will move in to SW office until it gets sorted .

rexton270

Ok, have some update. If your partner is on fulltime employment (30 hrs pw) and her/his wages is €300+ pw tou won't get NOTHING!!!. If you have child(ren) better to apply for FIS.

Kellier73

What is FIS?

Balagan

Family Income Supplement

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/social-welfare-payments-to-families-and-children/family_income_supplement

Nehaxak

Anyone who is on FIS (or indeed knows the answer) - Is it true that FIS is only allowed for one year maximum ?

Generally the payment continues for one year and is not affected by, for example, an increase in earnings or other income in the family.

It is possible to qualify for FIS if you are getting the Back to Work Allowance. Your income must be less than the income limit set for your family size.

You cannot get FIS if you are taking part in a Community Employment Scheme or any other FÁS schemes except Job Initiative.

You cannot get FIS if you are getting one of the following social welfare payments:

* Jobseeker's Benefit or Jobseeker's Allowance
* State Pension (Transition), or Pre-Retirement Allowance.

That's from the website given in the previous post. Am I reading into that wrongly or does it indeed only last a year ?

Balagan

When they arrive at the amount you will receive, that payment is fixed for one year irrespective of income rising or falling and people reapply for the next year if necessary.

Generally the payment continues for one year and is not affected by, for example, an increase in earnings or other income in the family...

If you lose your job or get reduced working hours

If your pay from work is reduced your Family Income Supplement (FIS) payment will stay the same. It will not increase. However, when your FIS payment ends you can re-apply giving details of your new reduced income. (FIS is usually paid for 52 weeks. At the end of the 52 weeks, you can re-apply for FIS).

from http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/social-welfare-payments-to-families-and-children/family_income_supplement