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Dacia For Ireland.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2010/0317/1224266429224.html

    That Duster shares its engines and underpinings with a Qashqai IIRC so it cant be that bad!

    And what you sell too don't forget:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Given how cheap Renaults are at the moment, it will be interesting to see how cheap the Dacias are.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    James May will be happy then!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Given how cheap Renaults are at the moment, it will be interesting to see how cheap the Dacias are.


    Exactly my own thoughts! It will be great to have a bargain brand in the showroom but I do have to say , im a little concerned about what the quality standard will be like. We'll have to wait and see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    They seem to pronounce it differently on Top gear, they say "Day-see-a", whereas they pronounce it "Dah-Chi-Ah" in Romania.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    They seem to pronounce it differently on Top gear, they say "Day-see-a", whereas they pronounce it "Dah-Chi-Ah" in Romania.

    Yeah but they also say "Puurzhoe" for Peugeot. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    A lot of the Police Metropolitan forces in France use the Logan as cop cars. They are cheaper than Renaults but as are still regarded as "French".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    No Sandero until 2014 :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭RobertM


    In Europe the prices are between 11k and 15k for the top model, so I think that will be the target price in Ireland as well, altough 1.6 petrol, 1.5 dcI (tractor) engines, don't have enough grunt to pull this car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭homer90


    Great news.....:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    homer90 wrote: »
    Great news.....:D

    ah homer90 the alias for james may!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    My neighbour was way ahead of the curve here, he has 2 Dacias Logans already, one saloon & another that looks like Kangoo/Berlingo. They sound exactly like a Renault & have small Renault badges on the back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Seen an Irish reg Dacia Locan MCV around Dublin alright.
    2009-dacia-logan-mcv-rear-side-view-588x422.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭pburns


    OK, don't laugh but I like the look of that Duster. Like it quite a lot:o...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭kasper


    the original dacia duster from the early eighties had a 1.3 renaut 12 engine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    just to resurrect this thread. I saw the Duster in France last year and it looks brilliant.I have a French Brochure and I have my wife pestered into translating it which she refuses to do.
    I also had a look on youtube..its pretty good off road aswell
    I will buy one if the price is right,


    http://www.dacia.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    kasper wrote: »
    the original dacia duster from the early eighties had a 1.3 renaut 12 engine

    Pretty much every other Dacia up until the Logan in 2004 was some bastardisatoin of the Renault 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭V Eight


    pburns wrote: »
    OK, don't laugh but I like the look of that Duster. Like it quite a lot:o...


    true it looks good - nice proportions and if it's circa €11,500 even better...


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    V Eight wrote: »
    true it looks good - nice proportions and if it's circa €11,500 even better...

    Surely it will be more than that?

    img1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    one of the lowest spec cars ever is about to get even lower , roll on 2013 when every bad driver in the country is ploughing around in a 1.5 diesel bog spec dacia

    if a single one of them is even ordered with 4wd or in petrol ill eat a hat


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    Exactly my own thoughts! It will be great to have a bargain brand in the showroom but I do have to say , im a little concerned about what the quality standard will be like. We'll have to wait and see.

    You talking about Dacia or Renault dude? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Surely it will be more than that?

    img1.jpg

    It starts in France at €11500 for a base 1.6 Petrol..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    one of the lowest spec cars ever is about to get even lower , roll on 2013 when every bad driver in the country is ploughing around in a 1.5 diesel bog spec dacia

    if a single one of them is even ordered with 4wd or in petrol ill eat a hat

    In France last year when most manufacturers sales figures were down, Dacias was up 133%(and not from 1 units to 133 before anybody passed a smart one):D

    The Duster was the third best selling SUV after the 3008 AND Qashqai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    johnf2020 wrote: »
    In France last year when most manufacturers sales figures were down, Dacias was up 133%(and not from 1 units to 133 before anybody passed a smart one):D

    The Duster was the third best selling 2wd fake jeep crossover thing after the 3008 AND Qashqai.

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    FYP

    FYP????--Pardon my ignorance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    johnf2020 wrote: »
    FYP????--Pardon my ignorance

    fixed your post, i changed it a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    I read those details in a French Equivalent of Auto Express when I was with the Kids in Disney Paris in March.
    Just found this now

    http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2011/04/22/france-april-2011-dacia-duster-1-in-weekly-ranking/


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    johnf2020 wrote: »
    It starts in France at €11500 for a base 1.6 Petrol..

    VRT and VAT will bump that up a bit over here me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭rocky


    If I had to guess, it'll start at 15000 here
    johnf2020 wrote: »
    In France last year when most manufacturers sales figures were down, Dacias was up 133%(and not from 1 units to 133 before anybody passed a smart one):D

    1 to 133 is an increase of 13200% :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The base duster doesn't have:

    A radio
    Split folding seats
    Electric Windows
    Electric mirrors
    Side airbags
    Coloured handles, bumpers or mirrors
    Alloys
    Fogs

    Anything really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The base duster doesn't have:

    A radio
    Split folding seats
    Electric Windows
    Electric mirrors
    Side airbags
    Coloured handles, bumpers or mirrors
    Alloys
    Fogs

    Anything really.

    Eww, how positively Vag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    johnf2020 wrote: »
    It starts in France at €11500 for a base 1.6 Petrol..

    When it gets here it will be nearer to twenty thousand when VRT and general 'Paddy' greediness is taken into account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The base duster doesn't have:

    A radio
    Split folding seats
    Electric Windows
    Electric mirrors
    Side airbags
    Coloured handles, bumpers or mirrors
    Alloys
    Fogs

    Anything really.

    oohhh sounds perfect for any poverty spec paddy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    They seem to pronounce it differently on Top gear, they say "Day-see-a", whereas they pronounce it "Dah-Chi-Ah" in Romania.

    Yep, that's the right pronunciation.
    The English always make a complete hash out of pronouncing any foreign words, i.e. Sebastian Vettel, his last name rhymes with kettle, but after only several years the BBC is slowly catching on.:rolleyes:
    Anyways, just back from civilisation (Germany, at the foot of the Alps, near the Austrian border) and the place is positively crawling with Dacias of every shape and size.
    Germans love a bargain just as much (or even more) than anyone else, the stingy feckers.
    But otherwise it's business as usual, Beemers, Mercs, VAG's, Opels, all big, with lots of engine, lots of toys, no poverty spec to be seen anywhere and, for some reason, no Fords whatsoever, but that maybe because Germans regard them as Opel rivals and buy accordingly.
    I saw exactly one CMax over there in an entire week of being out and about a lot.
    And my parents are driving a Daewoo Matiz.
    Short review:
    THE WORST CAR IN THE WORLD EVER!
    It has no power, no room, no style, no toys, no grace, no handling, it does have some brakes, but other than that it has no redeeming features whatsoever.
    In short, buy the poverty Spec Dacia, whatever it is like, it will be better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Far as I know, in France they get an 80% vat reduction and 40% registration tax reduction on e85 vehicles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,225 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    €11,990 in Germany and the VAT is 19%

    The 1.6 petrol emits 165g/km, so VRT here is 24%, which would make the base model about €16k here

    Not bad for what you get! Only a grand more than a supermini like a Yaris or a Polo

    And the cheapest Yeti (probably the closest competitor) is a staggering €22k, same as the base Qashqai

    Das Status-Symbol für alle, die keine Status-Symbole brauchen :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    When it gets here it will be nearer to twenty thousand when VRT and general 'Paddy' greediness is taken into account.

    I dont think it will. Since Renault France took over here the cars have come down in price to such an extent that they are on a par with some models in France. One of the guys from Renault Distributors say it will be 30-40% cheaper than an equivalent Qashqai.
    I have had a number of Foreign guys as about availability already. It may just become the car of choice for all the non-nationals here, and we know how many of them are still here. For me, the brand cannot arrive here quick enough
    A number of good reviews, even by the british mags
    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/251371/dacia_duster.html
    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Dacia-Duster-15-dCi-2wd-2010-CAR-review2/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuxAlH0MIBQ&feature=related

    As you can see,,I'm a fan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,225 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    johnf2020 wrote: »
    One of the guys from Renault Distributors say it will be 30-40% cheaper than an equivalent Qashqai.

    40% cheaper is not possible unless the pre-tax price is 25% lower here than in Germany / France :p

    About 30% cheaper is about right. See my figures of 16k and 22k for Duster and Qashqai respectively

    I didn't yet do the sums on the diesels though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭rocky


    Is it only Duster that's coming to Ireland? A Logan may start at 10-11k;

    I'd still prefer a Clio myself.

    510l boot :D
    Octavia watch out !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    unkel wrote: »
    40% cheaper is not possible unless the pre-tax price is 25% lower here than in Germany / France :p

    About 30% cheaper is about right. See my figures of 16k and 22k for Duster and Qashqai respectively

    I didn't yet do the sums on the diesels though...

    Well seeing that they are discounting the Sh1t out of Clios and Meganes here, anything is possible. Needs to be cheaper than a Renault remember!;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭johnf2020


    rocky wrote: »
    Is it only Duster that's coming to Ireland? A Logan may start at 10-11k;

    I'd still prefer a Clio myself.

    510l boot :D
    Octavia watch out !

    Duster to start with, then possible the Sandero.
    I think they should bring in the Logan MCV. Essentially a 7-seat estate pretty much like a 307 SW except its based on Logan Van

    http://www.ideamerge.com/leasing/renault_dacia_logan_mcv.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,528 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Thread revival, saw a French reg dacia duster in town on saturday. It looks rubbish in real life.


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