Pedals that work with these shoes

elvis jones

Hi all,

I'm getting a Giant Defy 3 and am looking for pedels that will go with these shoes and as bike as well.........http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/dhb_R1_Road_Cycling_Shoe/5360042950/

Thanks for all the advice so far with my lack of knowledge everyone here has been a big help.

Lumen

Those shoes will take anything.

"Cleat Pattern: Look, Time Impact, SPD, SPD-R, SPD-SL and Speedplay"

elvis jones

Great,

So any advice on what to get ?

RobbieTheRobber

That depends on your taste and budget more than anything else

elvis jones

I don't have a taste or a budget as i'm new to all this.

I don't want to spend a fortune and would like soemthing that would suit a newbie.

RobbieTheRobber

elvis jones wrote: »

I don't have a taste or a budget as i'm new to all this.

I don't want to spend a fortune and would like soemthing that would suit a newbie.

Im relatively new to it all myself, so I dont have any of the science the other poster might give you.

I bought these a while ago as my first set of clip in pedals they are from the very bottom of the price range
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Shimano_PD-R540_SPD_SL_Sport_Pedals/5360011753/

I found them very easy to get used, they came set at the lowest tension and with only one fall(I had unclipped my feet and then mistankenly as I came to stop clipped back in while road testing them in my front drive) I got used to them and would feel lost without them now.

So a very cheap entry and very easy to get used to, before you begin thinking about upgrading.

Im sure other posters will have plenty of suggestions.

elvis jones

110 for the pedals shoes for a newbie isn't bad at all.

I just think if i am going for the road bike i should ge the clip is shoes and pedals to do it right.

Lumen

elvis jones wrote: »

I don't have a taste or a budget as i'm new to all this.

I don't want to spend a fortune and would like soemthing that would suit a newbie.

It doesn't really matter that much. It's like different flavours of ice cream.

Time cleats are not the strongest out there, but I have several sets and have only snapped a cleat in a crash.

If I couldn't have Time I'd buy Looks, but only because I have an irrational preference for anything other than Shimano, except when it comes to hubs.

Although I've read some people saying that their Look pedals squeak, I've not experienced this myself.

The only person I know who uses SPD-SL likes them.

RobbieTheRobber

elvis jones wrote: »

110 for the pedals shoes for a newbie isn't bad at all.

I just think if i am going for the road bike i should ge the clip is shoes and pedals to do it right.

you could go with Chainreaction cycles and get the same pedals for nearly half that of wiggle
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5369

Or you could take lumens advice and go with Look pedals but sadly not in red
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=13079

elvis jones

there are too many options for me:o
I'll be doing 20 to 30 miles at a time and just want something to go with the shoes mentioned above. The shoes are cheap compared to others but i will only be using them twice a week to start off with unlike my running runners that i'll be using 5 times a week.

elvis jones

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

you could go with Chainreaction cycles and get the same pedals for nearly half that of wiggle
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5369

Or you could take lumens advice and go with Look pedals but sadly not in red
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=13079

That price looks great ( ultimate stupid question...........are they priced per pair )

Lumen

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

you could go with Chainreaction cycles and get the same pedals for nearly half that of wiggle
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5369

^^ this, yes they are priced per pair

ednwireland

those shimano ones look great value (and thats being a lifelong look user)

elvis jones

Shimamo it is then ! For 27 quid if they don't suit me i haven't spent a fortune !!

elvis jones

i forgot to ask are the shimano ok for the giant defy ?

Lumen

elvis jones wrote: »

i forgot to ask are the shimano ok for the giant defy ?

Yes, all modern pedals have the same sized thread. Remember that the left pedal has a left-hand thread.

elvis jones

And one final question before you all hunt me down and kill me.

Will these shoes work with the shimano pedals i've been looking at http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=9501

Lumen

elvis jones wrote: »

And one final question before you all hunt me down and kill me.

Will these shoes work with the shimano pedals i've been looking at http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=9501

Yes. SPD-SLs use the same three bolt "road" pattern as Look, Time etc.

SPD (without the -SL), Crank Brothers, (and possibly Speedplay, but I'm not sure) use an "off road" two bolt pattern.

copacetic

Lumen wrote: »

Yes. SPD-SLs use the same three bolt "road" pattern as Look, Time etc.

SPD (without the -SL), Crank Brothers, (and possibly Speedplay, but I'm not sure) use an "off road" two bolt pattern.

speedplay use a standard road 3 bolt pattern.

blorg

The main choice that needs to be made is between a mountain bike system or a road bike system. With a mountain bike system the shoes are a lot more walkable, easier to clip into, and there isn't really a major downside unless you are racing.

If you are never going to be walking off the bike no harm in a road system. If you do see yourself walking off the bike, get a MTB system. MTB system also better for the likes of commuting IMO (easier to clip back in at lights.) Speedplay is the only double sided road system, I imagine it is as easy to clip into as a MTB pedal but still has the protruding cleat.

iregk

I use the SPD-SL myself and they are great pedals. Those and the look keo classics are essentially the same thing although the look is a lot lighter.

The R1 shoes are also great value and for an entry level price you won't beat the shimano pedals with the R1 shoes. It's also worth echoing something that has been mentioned before. The Shimano's come at the lowest setting as far as spring stiffness is concerned for clipping in and out. I've yet to change it after 1 full year using my current pedals.

elvis jones

blorg wrote: »

The main choice that needs to be made is between a mountain bike system or a road bike system. With a mountain bike system the shoes are a lot more walkable, easier to clip into, and there isn't really a major downside unless you are racing.

If you are never going to be walking off the bike no harm in a road system. If you do see yourself walking off the bike, get a MTB system. MTB system also better for the likes of commuting IMO (easier to clip back in at lights.) Speedplay is the only double sided road system, I imagine it is as easy to clip into as a MTB pedal but still has the protruding cleat.

are my choices leaning towards MTB or road ?

I won't be walking in them apart from taking the bike in and out of the shed.

It's not going to be used to commute.

copacetic

elvis jones wrote: »

are my choices leaning towards MTB or road ?

I won't be walking in them apart from taking the bike in and out of the shed.

It's not going to be used to commute.

you'd be surprised how much walking you do getting the bike in and out, stopping at cake shops and walking up the last bit of hills! I have speedplays on the roadbike and they are great on the bike, but it's like walking on reverse high heels.

I have crank brothers mtb style pedals on the commuter and with mtb type shoes can walk entirely normally and there isn't that much difference on the bike itself. I've gone back and forward on whether to switch to them on the road bike too, but like the road shoes a bit too much to change over.

blorg

elvis jones wrote: »

are my choices leaning towards MTB or road ?

I won't be walking in them apart from taking the bike in and out of the shed.

It's not going to be used to commute.

If you will not be walking much off the bike and and doing your cycling in non-urban areas a road system is fine. As Copacetic says though there really isn't a lot of downside to a MTB system. Some road systems are easier to walk in than others but you wouldn't want to be walking any great distances. They will get you in to the cafe. A MTB system you can get shoes you can walk in for 2 weeks (I do this touring.)

I have road pedals on 2-3 of my bikes and MTB ones on the remaining 7-8, most of which are drop bar bikes used on the road.

Plastik

What are the benefits cycling wise in terms of the road v mtb setup? I'm seriously considering making a purchase this week so this thread couldn't have come at a more appropriate time. I understand that the mtb has a recessed cleat and the road one stick out the end of the shoe, but the road must be better at something, or else everyone would be on the mtb system for ease of use.

My own personal situation is one of using the bike for fitness, so long rides - just after getting over my first 100km spin with about 1200m climbing and didn't have to walk for any of it bar a quick stop at a shop to fill up the water bottle. Until I saw this thread I was looking exclusively at road systems, but now I'm looking at the mtb system too.

Something like these mtb pedals and these shoes ...

Lumen

It must be remembered that Blorg rides his bike in sandals.

Just sayin'.

ednwireland

hah i used to use look road pedals on the mtb in the 90's

they did have a special cleat and i was fit enough not to need to get off the bike much- how things have changed. ! rode round newnham park in them i was marshalling so didnt get to race

Lumen

Plastik wrote: »

What are the benefits cycling wise in terms of the road v mtb setup?

The systems have developed from different initial requirements, but converged at much the same place, function-wise. MTB cleats tend to have a smaller "pedalling platform", although advanced in shoe sole stiffness have largely eliminated this as an issue, to the point where much of the difference is purely down to style.

There is possibly a higher risk of accidentally clipping out with a road system.

When I switch from MTB to road system it does feel different (better), but much of the difference is probably due to slightly different shoe fit.

I wouldn't recommend for pure road use is Crank Bros, just because I don't rate the 4-sided entry and they have a reputation for requiring a higher than average amount of servicing.

blorg

The road system is better for racing. It provides an arguably more stable platform with a bigger contact area and less chance of accidentally unclipping, for example in a sprint. If you aren't sprinting it is questionable whether you really need it. I moved to a road system for racing after unclipping a couple of times in sprints during a race. For most people not racing I would think that a MTB system gives greater flexibility, you can ride your bike somewhere and then lock it and walk around for an hour or whatever. But if you won't be doing this and will only be riding your bike for a spin and not walking you don't need this and the road system is marginally better in terms of retention and contact.

blorg

Lumen wrote: »

There is possibly a higher risk of accidentally clipping out with a road system.

I'd have that the other way around, I would think my Time RXS (road) have more solid retention than my Shimano SPD (MTB). Mind you when I switched my SPD cleats were quite worn, after replacing them the retention got a lot better.

cdaly_

Lumen wrote: »

I wouldn't recommend for pure road use is Crank Bros, just because I don't rate the 4-sided entry and they have a reputation for requiring a higher than average amount of servicing.

I'm on my third set of Crank Bros pedals in two months at the mo. Replaced under warranty each time. If this set goes, I'll be looking for something different.

It must be remembered that Blorg rides his bike in sandals.

I ride in sandals too. I have a set of Shimano MTB sandals just waiting for the weather to warm up a bit...

Lumen

Lumen wrote: »

There is possibly a higher risk of accidentally clipping out with a road system.

blorg wrote: »

I'd have that the other way around, I would think my Time RXS (road) have more solid retention than my Shimano SPD (MTB). Mind you when I switched my SPD cleats were quite worn, after replacing them the retention got a lot better.

Sorry, you're right of course. I meant "lower" not "higher". I was a bit distracted by the gas leak in my house. All good now.

Must work on prioritisation.

elvis jones

Plastik wrote: »

What are the benefits cycling wise in terms of the road v mtb setup? I'm seriously considering making a purchase this week so this thread couldn't have come at a more appropriate time. I understand that the mtb has a recessed cleat and the road one stick out the end of the shoe, but the road must be better at something, or else everyone would be on the mtb system for ease of use.

My own personal situation is one of using the bike for fitness, so long rides - just after getting over my first 100km spin with about 1200m climbing and didn't have to walk for any of it bar a quick stop at a shop to fill up the water bottle. Until I saw this thread I was looking exclusively at road systems, but now I'm looking at the mtb system too.

Something like these mtb pedals and these shoes ...

Ok i'm leaning towards the above now.

Can someone explain clipless pedals, cleets etc to me.

At the moment i have loops that my runners fit into it.