drops keep falling on me head

whymeagain

does anyone is there anything you can get to stop a shed roof from dropping in frosty weather (there`s no felt on) any advice would be very welcome

leg wax

there is no air passing thru the shed the shed needs ventilation

Bitten & Hisses

You can purchase non-drip cladding too.

whymeagain

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

You can purchase non-drip cladding too.

i don`t want to re roof it.. does any body know if there is any kind of paint or anything go can put on its a 3 bay double plenty of ventilation.

snowman707

I saw a vegetable store done with a spray on foam insulation , brilliant job about 3 to 4 inches sprayed on the underside of the roof.

do a google for firms doing industrial insulation

Edit

paint will not work too thin , you need to separate the out temp from the inside. temp

whymeagain

thanks snowman, the shed is only up 2 years its dropping like **** the few weeks the timber wont last long if i dont do something with it,on a bad morning youd need an umbrella

del88

why is it driping?? is it a flat roof?? what sort of cladding is on it??

8560

are there cattle in shed and the heat off cattle is condensing on roof. as someone said better air circulation. if it was a workshop could you put up felt

whymeagain

yeah cattle in one side on slats the other side hay, straw and meals... the shed is open at one end

whymeagain

del88 wrote: »

why is it driping?? is it a flat roof?? what sort of cladding is on it??

its an A with a good pitch dont know what lind of cladding its not a non drip anyway

8560

maybe if you replaced some sheets with space board it would get some of the heat out. the cattle would be heathier too. i have a straw shed with a 7 ft wall and 5 ft open above it, healthy shed, there is a hedge nearby

motorman

Nail felt to the timbers, that will sort it out.

del88

ye...only thing you can do is fix felt or polythene to the underside...not a great job as the water will still have to come out some were so it will leak out where the felt stops at the wall....you should really take the cladding back off and put the felt on the top side of the timbers...

whymeagain

motorman wrote: »

Nail felt to the timbers, that will sort it out.

alot of work stripping all the sheets off again thats why i was hoping there might be an easier way out

motorman

I realise that, if you can nail the felt tothe underside somewhere without taking the cladding off it should stop it.

leg wax

whymeagain wrote: »

yeah cattle in one side on slats the other side hay, straw and meals... the shed is open at one end

take off some sheets off other end and let air flow:rolleyes:

dunsandin

Jst get it spray-foam insulated - cost around €10/ sqm, its the only retro fit thing that works. That or buy a hat.

whymeagain

thanks dunsandin i`ll try that during the summer hopefully it`ll work

red bull

I had that problem it was solved by raising one sheet on each bay a few inches to allow hot air to escape

dunsandin

But raising one sheet on each bay usually also solves the problem of the rain not blowing in on rainy, windy days, which we sometimes get over here. Its also a good way of solving the problem of the shed being anyway warm at all. I think I'll stick to the spray foam.

bk1991

dunsandin wrote: »

Jst get it spray-foam insulated - cost around €10/ sqm, its the only retro fit thing that works. That or buy a hat.

the birds will pick the **** out of the spray on insulation

yessam

This has to be a ventilation problem.The air close to the roof of your shed is not circulating enough. It does not matter if the shed is open on one end if the warm air close to the roof cannot rise to get out. Do you have a raised vent canophy at the A in your roof to let out the warm air. By nailing felt to your timbers will only divert the drip from falling in your shed, but wont protect your timber. Before you spend money on your shed, get an engineer to look at it. There had to be warm air meeting cold air for condensation to form. Warm air rises and its not getting out.

snowman707

bk1991 wrote: »

the birds will pick the **** out of the spray on insulation

it is sprayed on the inside of the roof

yessam wrote: »

This has to be a ventilation problem.The air close to the roof of your shed is not circulating enough. It does not matter if the shed is open on one end if the warm air close to the roof cannot rise to get out. Do you have a raised vent canophy at the A in your roof to let out the warm air. By nailing felt to your timbers will only divert the drip from falling in your shed, but wont protect your timber. Before you spend money on your shed, get an engineer to look at it. There had to be warm air meeting cold air for condensation to form. Warm air rises and its not getting out.

we have canopies and perforated side sheeting and still have condensation issue

only way is to spray foam the roof, bring any engineer you want after that and spend more bad money after good.

dunsandin

Ya gotta laugh at the bird pecking issue - I did anyway. I have visions of crows with tin snips chawing their way through the tin to get at that lovely, chewy insulation. Warm, moist air rises, it hits the cold tin and condenses, forming back to water droplets. These fall on the lads head. Spray on the foam, the warm air donna hitta the colda tin. No more problema. Simples.

tabby aspreme

[QUOTE= Warm, moist air rises, it hits the cold tin and condenses, forming back to water droplets. These fall on the lads head. .[/QUOTE]

whats wrong with a bath in bullock breath

red bull

dunsandin wrote: »

But raising one sheet on each bay usually also solves the problem of the rain not blowing in on rainy, windy days, which we sometimes get over here. Its also a good way of solving the problem of the shed being anyway warm at all. I think I'll stick to the spray foam.

Raising a sheet on each bay solves the condensation problem, lets in no rain if you overlap roof a few inches.
Your farming system must be more profitable than mine if you are going down the foam route. Your choice;)

yessam

whymeagain wrote: »

does anyone is there anything you can get to stop a shed roof from dropping in frosty weather (there`s no felt on) any advice would be very welcome

Can you put up a few pictures of this shed.

dunsandin

red bull wrote: »

Raising a sheet on each bay solves the condensation problem, lets in no rain if you overlap roof a few inches.
Your farming system must be more profitable than mine if you are going down the foam route. Your choice;)

Farming me H0wl. If the sheds for 4 leggies, it can drip away all the day! I have this on me workshop, where drips matter! The last time I checked, cattle were waterproof to a good extent, and so for that matter am I. If you are the type to worry about drips in a stock shed, you must be breeding pedigree sponge cakes. I'm a farmer in my spare time, its a great hobby, but it takes a hell of a job to earn enough money to keep playing at it. The spray foam is for the bidness end of the operation, not the for the beastie-keeping genetically implanted compulsion to be surrounded by things that sh1te, end of things!

del88

would love to see some photos

mossfort

if you have to remove sheets it wont be easy if they are nailed without doing damage to the coating . also the sheet you remove wont be wide enough to cover the opening to allow an overlap so it would mean buying new sheets of cladding. i think the spray foam idea would cost too much and as its a ventilation issue it better to try and solve it . it all depends on the design of the shed.

dunsandin

del88 wrote: »

would love to see some photos

I have some of my holidays I could send you.
I'm impressed by the comment that my system of farming must be "more profitable" than others - are some of you actually making a profit at it? I'm well impressed. Like me, all of the farmers I know lose their shirts each year, and the sub cheque picks up the slack. I have a friend who does accountancy, and tells me all his farmer clients are up to their eyes. Anyone think different? Someone who actually keeps proper cost records that is.
Best of luck with the ventilation thing - I see open sided slatted units and the roofs drip with condensation, hard to get better ventilation than that. Just the fact that the tin is cold will cause it, never mind the airflow.

bk1991

dunsandin wrote: »

Ya gotta laugh at the bird pecking issue - I did anyway. I have visions of crows with tin snips chawing their way through the tin to get at that lovely, chewy insulation. Warm, moist air rises, it hits the cold tin and condenses, forming back to water droplets. These fall on the lads head. Spray on the foam, the warm air donna hitta the colda tin. No more problema. Simples.

well a farmer i have been with has all his sheads and crops stores spray foam insulated .and the birds destroyed it the corners and even middle of shead ,we re done it and filled gaps and the birds still pecked is and it leaves a mess on floor ...

i have seen in round roofed sheads the water running down the inside tin after frost and dripping of timbers been solved by placeing gutter under timber and letting out side of shead .

snowman707

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/machinery/1144247

just spotted the above on done deal

whymeagain

thanks snowman i`ll enquire during the summer we`ll hardly have any more severe frost till next winter. i can do one bay at a time if its expensive ..

mossfort

snowman707 wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/machinery/1144247

just spotted the above on done deal

he does nice neat work around the timbers and rafters. :rolleyes:

Indubitable

snowman707 wrote: »

I saw a vegetable store done with a spray on foam insulation , brilliant job about 3 to 4 inches sprayed on the underside of the roof.

do a google for firms doing industrial insulation

Edit

paint will not work too thin , you need to separate the out temp from the inside. temp

I saw this stuff being put on before. It is quick and effective