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Anyone in a 2nd level school that does this??

  • 14-03-2010 7:04pm
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    peanuthead
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    Hi there

    Is there anyone who teaches in a second level school that has a transition year in operation running in between 6th class and 1st year?

    I would imagine this has immense benefits and was wondering if anyone from one of these schools could share with me any advantages/disadvantages they find with it

    thanks


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    gaeilgegrinds1
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    We run a 2 week programme. Would you be sanctioned funding by the department? I'd be interested to hear if such a programme does exist.


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    peanuthead
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    gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »
    We run a 2 week programme. Would you be sanctioned funding by the department? I'd be interested to hear if such a programme does exist.

    I believe that it does, but I am yet to hear of a place that does it.

    Can you tell me a bit more about you 2week programme?


  • #4
    FerrisBueller
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    There was a "7th Class" in my school. They revised the Irish/Eng/Maths of primary and started the History, Geography, Modern Languages part, Science and Business too I think.
    It was to give pupils "confidence" but to be honest it just made a lot them cocky and forming their own little click, entering first year as if they owned the place, and to be honest their academic ability wasn't much better than those who came straight in.
    That was a few years ago, and I was a pupil but just my perception on the whole thing. Oddly enough I'm going to be a teacher now too.


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    spurious
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    Would a 'pre-1st year' not mean children would not be allowed do regular TY should they want to?


  • #6
    peanuthead
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    spurious wrote: »
    Would a 'pre-1st year' not mean children would not be allowed do regular TY should they want to?

    Well I don't know about that - maybe they would have the option of doing both but would just be a year older moving on?

    In my opinion I just feel that TY should be either there or not - across the board. The fact that it is compulsory in some schools, not there in others and a choice in the rest has some advantages, but in my opinion TY is not regulated and the students become guinea pigs for every pilot programme going or else sit there doing nothing.,

    I know it's not the case in all schools but I suppose it could be an option for those who don't have TY. I mean some disadvantaged area children have a very hard time settling into 2nd level. Sp needs too.


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    Toto Wolfcastle
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    There's a primary school that offers 7th class on the grounds of the secondary school that I attended. It's for those who want to improve their Irish though mainly before they attend the secondary school.


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    rainbowtrout
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    peanuthead wrote: »
    Hi there

    Is there anyone who teaches in a second level school that has a transition year in operation running in between 6th class and 1st year?

    I would imagine this has immense benefits and was wondering if anyone from one of these schools could share with me any advantages/disadvantages they find with it

    thanks

    Cnoc na Labhras (Laurel Hill) Secondary School (Gaelscoil) in Limerick has a four year junior cycle and then a regular 2 year LC cycle. Not a TY as such. My friends went there. They did all the core subjects and then they did each of the choice subjects in different blocks on a rotation for 6 weeks or so in first year and then made a choice of which one to choose. I have never heard of any other school doing it and I don't know how they have a 4 year cycle to junior cert. They didn't do anything extra in terms of TY type modules, it was just the regular junior cert course, as gaeilge of course but over four years instead of three.

    A couple of my friends went to a convent secondary school in Ennis (can't remember the name of it off the top of my head). There was such a demand for places that they had a policy of only accepting girls that had turned 13, so a number of schools in the catchment area had a 7th class which catered for those students who were too young the first time round, they did some of the stuff that they would have been covering in secondary school as far as I know.


  • #9
    Delphi91
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    gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »
    We run a 2 week programme. Would you be sanctioned funding by the department? I'd be interested to hear if such a programme does exist.

    Yes, we run the same, except we do it for 3 weeks. We refer to it as our "Induction Program".


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    dudara
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    My secondary school had it a few times - most kids went straight to "2nd yr" (to do a 5 year cycle) while a small group went to "1st year" (and did a 6 year cycle). They were kids who were behind the standard of the others. This was of course before the introduction of the Transition Year.


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