Notice given but chance of disciplinary

janullrich

Folks, would like some advise please. I am working in payday loan collections and as well as being downright difficult to collect on more and more quality procedures are coming into place. Last Wednesday I had a interview for mortgage collections and found out on Friday that I was successful. This is great and the job is one of the best going but my current role are putting a serious amount of pressure on me.

I am on a final warning and there is a account I got which was a "booby-trap"bomb. The person who took out the loan had already made a serious complaint against the company and did not want to be contacted by phone (which is their entitlement under UK law) Anyway I was told by my manager to work the file by email. 2 emails later still no answer and I was still told to work it. I wrote a email saying the guy took the loan under false pretences. It is used commonly on the floor.

Now a internal complaint has arisen which I was told about on Thursday. I immediately gave in my notice (before I knew I got the other job but I was close to a mental breakdown). They acknowledged that they are not happy going for other interviews regardless if it outside work time. I feel as if they are trying to hang me. The company said that there may be a disicplinary meeting tomorrow Monday. I however have defended myself in a long email and have also said I have given in my notice. My question is can a disciplinary meeting take place after notice has been given in and do I have any rights? Sorry but the rambling thread but thanks for any imput.

Nody

Your notice don't change anything in the disciplinary procedure or nature, they can let you go while you're on your notice period if that is the disciplinary outcome.

Good news is most companies simply don't bother with someone in the notice period as the person is leaving any way so why waste the effort.

janullrich

Thanks Nody for the update. Appreciate it.

Dempo1

janullrich wrote: »

Folks, would like some advise please. I am working in payday loan collections and as well as being downright difficult to collect on more and more quality procedures are coming into place. Last Wednesday I had a interview for mortgage collections and found out on Friday that I was successful. This is great and the job is one of the best going but my current role are putting a serious amount of pressure on me.

I am on a final warning and there is a account I got which was a "booby-trap"bomb. The person who took out the loan had already made a serious complaint against the company and did not want to be contacted by phone (which is their entitlement under UK law) Anyway I was told by my manager to work the file by email. 2 emails later still no answer and I was still told to work it. I wrote a email saying the guy took the loan under false pretences. It is used commonly on the floor.

Now a internal complaint has arisen which I was told about on Thursday. I immediately gave in my notice (before I knew I got the other job but I was close to a mental breakdown). They acknowledged that they are not happy going for other interviews regardless if it outside work time. I feel as if they are trying to hang me. The company said that there may be a disicplinary meeting tomorrow Monday. I however have defended myself in a long email and have also said I have given in my notice. My question is can a disciplinary meeting take place after notice has been given in and do I have any rights? Sorry but the rambling thread but thanks for any imput.

Curious, just came across this posting? what line of work are you in? it sounds horrendous! Payday loan collections? where are you based? u mentioned UK law.

Speaking from an Irish Labour law point of view, the ansewer is bascially a disciplinary meeting could take place during notice but its highly unlikely given you have given notice, the company can ask you to finish prior to notice ending, however they must pay you in lieu of notice (In Ireland)

Bizzare Job you have if i am reading this correctly, sounds like your better off out it.

shoegirl

It sounds horrible and the sooner you move on out of there the better, for your sanitys sake.

AARRRGH

janullrich wrote: »

I wrote a email saying the guy took the loan under false pretences. It is used commonly on the floor.

I can understand why your manager is upset. The customer now has an e-mail where he is being accused of fraud.

I think the disciplinary hearing is called for.

Dempo1

AARRRGH wrote: »

I can understand why your manager is upset. The customer now has an e-mail where he is being accused of fraud.

I think the disciplinary hearing is called for.

My sentiments too, i just can't understand what kind of company this chap works for, sounds like a bunch of vultures, seems to be based in the UK? Quite bizarre career path, Pay Day collections, Mortgage collections? Sounds like a glorified debt collection agency, Jesus i hope Ireland does not go down the route of permitting such companies to trade here?

janullrich

Thanks folks. It turned out great. There was no disciplinary. I am out and I am getting paid during this period while not actuelly coming to work. You are correct in saying that the work was pretty loan-sharking. I hope it also does not come to Ireland

Aarrrgh. If you don't know the full facts keep out of it and waste your time in someother threads where your twopence may be more of value.

Dempo1. If you actuelly bothered to read the thread you would see I am moving to another company in a interview which I was successful with. Moving from payday loans to mortgage collections is not uncommon. Infact it is called credit control.

Dempo1

janullrich wrote: »

Thanks folks. It turned out great. There was no disciplinary. I am out and I am getting paid during this period while not actuelly coming to work. You are correct in saying that the work was pretty loan-sharking. I hope it also does not come to Ireland

Aarrrgh. If you don't know the full facts keep out of it and waste your time in someother threads where your twopence may be more of value.

Dempo1. If you actuelly bothered to read the thread you would see I am moving to another company in a interview which I was successful with. Moving from payday loans to mortgage collections is not uncommon. Infact it is called credit control.

Having read back on your original posting i still maintain this company you apparently relish working for is a bunch of vultures and the practices which you freely admitted are common practice our quite simply outrageous. I am not sure where you get the notion this is known as credit control but in my book if you or your company tried a stunt like you mentioned on me, i would enjoy working out a payment schedule with you after i sued your asses off. Pay day Loans? what the **** is that?

Jumpy

Dempo1 wrote: »

Having read back on your original posting i still maintain this company you apparently relish working for is a bunch of vultures and the practices which you freely admitted are common practice our quite simply outrageous. I am not sure where you get the notion this is known as credit control but in my book if you or your company tried a stunt like you mentioned on me, i would enjoy working out a payment schedule with you after i sued your asses off. Pay day Loans? what the **** is that?

I believe they are short term loans to get you to "pay day" then you are supposed to pay them back immediately.
A very dodgy practice indeed to get involved in. But becoming more common based on the advertisements I am seeing on TV.

Dempo1

Jumpy wrote: »

I believe they are short term loans to get you to "pay day" then you are supposed to pay them back immediately.
A very dodgy practice indeed to get involved in. But becoming more common based on the advertisements I am seeing on TV.

Yes its a shocking practice, akin to loan shark practices and normally aimed at the most vunerable in society, i have not come across this practice in Ireland but perhaps i am sadly wrong!

janullrich

Ah, well that is because I was working in the UK Market. Therefore if you don't live over there and need the funds you would not be involved in it and therefore you don't need to worry about! Btw it is called still called credit control whether you accept it on not both here in Ireland and the UK

Dempo1

janullrich wrote: »

Ah, well that is because I was working in the UK Market. Therefore if you don't live over there and need the funds you would not be involved in it and therefore you don't need to worry about! Btw it is called still called credit control whether you accept it on not both here in Ireland and the UK

Exactly my point, raised originally, looking for advice on a disciplinary matter on boards.ie ? perhaps next time look to boards.co.uk if there is such a thing?

AARRRGH

janullrich wrote: »

I wrote a email saying the guy took the loan under false pretences. It is used commonly on the floor.

Now a internal complaint has arisen which I was told about on Thursday.

janullrich wrote: »

Aarrrgh. If you don't know the full facts keep out of it and waste your time in someother threads where your twopence may be more of value.

Instead of getting angry with us for commenting on what you wrote, you should spend a bit more time trying to explain your situation more clearly.

If you failed to communicate properly, that is hardly my fault.

Anyway, I wish you luck in your new job and I hope you can sort out your disciplinary problems.

jobucks

Dempo1 wrote: »

Exactly my point, raised originally, looking for advice on a disciplinary matter on boards.ie ? perhaps next time look to boards.co.uk if there is such a thing?

As far as I'm aware, this is an open forum, there are plenty of people posting on boards from outside Ireland.

Limerickgal82

Give the guy a break he was looking for help . Boards is a forum for everyone. He asked a simple question and is not looking to get the responses he did over his job. in this day and age people will tale whatever job they can to pay the bills. Maybe we should think of that fact. Good luck in your new job!

Dempo1

jobucks wrote: »

As far as I'm aware, this is an open forum, there are plenty of people posting on boards from outside Ireland.

Yes indeed that may be the case but this thread commenced with a question relating to quite bizarre disciplinary matter and the poster did not specify his specific location and therefore advice on same would have been difficult. This person was also quite vague about what it is he does and it soon materialized it may be a debt collection agency, he took offensive to some legitimate comments and advice on him changing career. He hardly expected sympathy for his dilemma. My response was in reply to him throwing his toys out of what appears to be a rather large pram.

janullrich

Exactly guys,this is a openforum. The matter is now closed. Dempo1 maybe you should look at other threads that may need a bit more of "your" input. As far as I am concerned this matter is closed. You are the only person who is throwing toys out of his pram about payday loans. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with you so you should mind your own business and go and annoy someone else. Thanks for anyone who wished me luck with my new job and gave helpful advice.

Dempo1

janullrich wrote: »

Exactly guys,this is a openforum. The matter is now closed. Dempo1 maybe you should look at other threads that may need a bit more of "your" input. As far as I am concerned this matter is closed. You are the only person who is throwing toys out of his pram about payday loans. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with you so you should mind your own business and go and annoy someone else. Thanks for anyone who wished me luck with my new job and gave helpful advice.

Tut Tut! very tetchy, perhaps you will be a little more careful in your next exciting job, sounds really awe inspiring!

Chipboard

janullrich wrote: »

I wrote a email saying the guy took the loan under false pretences. It is used commonly on the floor.

You do realise that its wrong to falsely accuse someone of something don't you. Your post seems to indicate that you feel you are are being treated harshly. The fact that this method of collection is commonly used on the floor doesn't mean its ok.

Dempo1

Chipboard wrote: »

You do realise that its wrong to falsely accuse someone of something don't you. Your post seems to indicate that you feel you are are being treated harshly. The fact that this method of collection is commonly used on the floor doesn't mean its ok.

Quick bit of advice, let this clown sort out his own mess, on offering him some advice he got quite nasty and sent an interesting PM to me, seems he does not actually want advice but sympathy for what is a charming profession. He is now on my ignore list.

janullrich

Maybe u 2 idiots will notice that the thread is closed and everything sorted out. Good to hear that you have added me to your ignore list Dempo1. You have shown that you are full of mouth but nothing else.

eth0_

Thread closed. Grow up, everyone.