Tv3 not showing on digital tuner

fletch

Hi guys

I've got an MPEG4 DVB-T avermedia tuner. I used to be able to pick up TV3 however now there's just a beeeeeep sound and just an multicoloured image displaying....why is that?

gtg60

fletch wrote: »

Hi guys

I've got an MPEG4 DVB-T avermedia tuner. I used to be able to pick up TV3 however now there's just a beeeeeep sound and just an multicoloured image displaying....why is that?

Because Irish DTT is a test!

Take the time to search, there's hundred's of threads/ posts about it.

St Senan

fletch wrote: »

Hi guys

I've got an MPEG4 DVB-T avermedia tuner. I used to be able to pick up TV3 however now there's just a beeeeeep sound and just an multicoloured image displaying....why is that?

It's not a full service yet. What you and everyone is getting at the moment is a DTT test service. TV3 gone this week back next week so on so on until the full digital service is available.

fletch

Yeh I knew it was a test alright....just couldn't find anything using the search because TV3 is too short to search for sorry. I'll just have to check it on a daily basis so...thanks

The Cush

scaller wrote: »

It's not a full service yet. What you and everyone is getting at the moment is a DTT test service. TV3 gone this week back next week so on so on until the full digital service is available.

The difference this time is that in addition to the test card, the TV3 channel name has gone and is replaced with "RTENL" and all epg data for TV3 has also disappeared. This appears to be a major change from before.

Taking a stab in the dark here - have the engineering tests come to an end? Are we moving into a pre-launch phase which will require DTT multiplex, distribution and transmission contracts to be signed by TV3?

Sam Russell

The Cush wrote: »

Taking a stab in the dark here - have the engineering tests come to an end? Are we moving into a pre-launch phase which will require DTT multiplex, distribution and transmission contracts to be signed by TV3?

I think you are good at shots in the dark, sounds like that to me. I presume TV3 are not paying for DTT transmision on the test network. As you say, end game time.

Sam Russell

Further thoughts on the above. Onevision are in negotiations with RTENL about carriage costs of DTT; TV3 are part of Onevision; TV3 are suddenly dropped from DTT carriage.

Hmmmmmmm.

TV3 is a must carry after analogue switch off at the end of 2012.
Yes they will have to pay for their carriage but they must be carried.

The Cush

Deleted User wrote: »

TV3 is a must carry after analogue switch off at the end of 2012.
Yes they will have to pay for their carriage but they must be carried.

There is a provision in the Broadcasting Act for them to be carried on the RTÉ Mux if required otherwise they can be carried on one the commercial muxes. As they are part of the OneVision consortium carriage on a commercial mux may be the cheaper option.

The downside if they are carried on one of the commercial muxes they may not be available from many of the smaller relays which may only carry the RTÉ Mux.

Sam Russell

The Cush wrote: »

The downside if they are carried on one of the commercial muxes they may not be available from many of the smaller relays which may only carry the RTÉ Mux.

That does not worry them at the moment, they only get carriage on the main analogue transmitters at the moment. Maybe they are not prepared to pay for that last 20% of the population.

Elmo

The test screen switches between TV3 and TG4.

TV3 is currently named RTÉNL.

STB

Yes the reason they arent on as Sam says RTE NL are paying the bills alone.

RTE NL havent announced the launch date yet (its October by all accounts) so until then you will have these scenarios. A catch 22 for all.

Heljic

STB wrote: »

Yes the reason they arent on as Sam says RTE NL are paying the bills alone.

RTE NL havent announced the launch date yet (its October by all accounts) so until then you will have these scenarios. A catch 22 for all.

I have the same problem, I get RTE 1, 2, TG4, other radio channels but not TV3, doesn't show up at.

Any help? Live in the South Dublin area. Thanks.

SRB

Heljic wrote: »

I have the same problem, I get RTE 1, 2, TG4, other radio channels but not TV3, doesn't show up at.

Any help? Live in the South Dublin area. Thanks.

Heljic,TV3 aren't being carried on the tests at the moment.

watty

Even so TV3 will not pay for carriage until either forced to by Government or the number of viewers is eating into their analogue figures.

Anchises

That does not worry them at the moment, they only get carriage on the main analogue transmitters at the moment. Maybe they are not prepared to pay for that last 20% of the population.

Does that mean that TV3 analogue is not carried on local transponders ? I think in my area I do not get signals direct from Mullaghanish but from a local relay. I cannot get TV3 analogue even tho it's stated to be transmitted from Mullaghanish. I assumed they would ALL be relayed ?

I cannot get the digital data at all... may be poor antanna ? or maybe the tests are not ongoing in my area ?

A.

Minstrel27

Anchises wrote: »

Does that mean that TV3 analogue is not carried on local transponders ?

TV3 is not available from many transmitters. Only the main transmitters and one or two more have TV3

Anchises

I think I read here (boards) that RTE were obliged legally to carry TV3.
Are RTE not conforming ? in respect of relays ?

And will the same apply when DTT is active ? :eek:

A.

Elmo

Anchises wrote: »

I think I read here (boards) that RTE were obliged legally to carry TV3.
Are RTE not conforming ? in respect of relays ?

And will the same apply when DTT is active ? :eek:

A.

Do you think that RTÉ should carry TV3 for free?

Anchises

Short answer : No .

I suspect that some business arrangement has been worked out with TV3 - since they do carry it to main transmitters.

Would there be an additional expense in relaying it ?
And if so, surely TV3 would wish to reach the biggest audience possible ...and might be willing to engage with RTE.

I'm assuming TV3 do not get a slice of the licence fee

I'm just a little surprised that transmission is restricted as it is to main transmitters.
What about us guys in the fringe areas ?

Maybe I should read up all the other references to TV3.
It's hard to find them - can't search on TV3 (three letters)

A.

watty

It's TV3's choice. They won't pay the full price.

The price is regulated and fair. It's simply that TV3 chooses to not pay for full coverage, no doubt the extra cost outwieghs extra revenue. Technically TV3 are in breach of licence.

FREETV

watty wrote: »

It's TV3's choice. They won't pay the full price.

The price is regulated and fair. It's simply that TV3 chooses to not pay for full coverage, no doubt the extra cost outwieghs extra revenue. Technically TV3 are in breach of licence.

It is very likely that they will be forced to pay for the full coverage or else be heavily fined and maybe even lose their broadcasting license altogether. The cheek of them and with so many people in the country even unable to view TV3 already in crappy old analogue. :mad: 3e should also be carried along with a few others on DTT but that's another discussion. We have so few national stations for launching the Irish DTT service.

STB

watty wrote: »

It's TV3's choice. They won't pay the full price.

The price is regulated and fair. It's simply that TV3 chooses to not pay for full coverage, no doubt the extra cost outwieghs extra revenue. Technically TV3 are in breach of licence.

Well that has been a issue for some time. Tv3 do not have the same % targets when it comes down to analogue terrestrial TV coverage that RTE are mandated to cover as PSB. Being a licensed "terrestrial station" you could be forgiven for thinking that it would be in TV3s commercial interest to cover as much of the country as possible. But then again there is also that over dependence on $ky. So when is a terrestrial station not a terrestrial station. Suppose it depends on the context of when you use that term and how you use it.

Hopefully DTT will make near universal coverage a given for all terrestrial stations.

Elmo

TV3 were ment to be a MMDS/Cable service in the early 1990s and TV3's former CEO Rick Hetherington had suggested getting an OfCom licence and broadcasting into Ireland via England via Cable and Satellite, he would reduce costs (no expensive Irish programmes and no loss of viewers).

Sponge Bob

Elmo wrote: »

TV3 were ment to be a MMDS/Cable service in the early 1990s and TV3's former CEO Rick Hetherington had suggested getting an OfCom licence and broadcasting into Ireland via England via Cable and Satellite, he would reduce costs (no expensive Irish programmes and no loss of viewers).

I already have precisely such a service. It is called "ITV1 HD" and it does not carry expensive Irish programming like TV3 news and Vincenzo Brown and the breakfast stuff and the Lorraine Chick program where they dress up and look cute in South Dublin somewhere.....maybe as far out as the Curragh one day a year....budget permitting.

Sam Russell

Sponge Bob wrote: »

I already have precisely such a service. It is called "ITV1 HD" and it does not carry expensive Irish programming like TV3 news and Vincenzo Brown and the breakfast stuff and the Lorraine Chick program where they dress up and look cute in South Dublin somewhere.....maybe as far out as the Curragh one day a year....budget permitting.

You forgot the 'Midlife' programme that is on in the early afternoon, where middle aged ladies talk about their frustrations and then discuss other things they know little or nothing about.

Sponge Bob

Sam Russell wrote: »

You forgot the 'Midlife' programme that is on in the early afternoon, where middle aged ladies talk about their frustrations and then discuss other things they know little or nothing about.

I genuinely thought that was called "the week in politics on tv3" and then I completely forgot about it Sam just like you accused me of there.

Elmo

Sam Russell wrote: »

You forgot the 'Midlife' programme that is on in the early afternoon, where middle aged ladies talk about their frustrations and then discuss other things they know little or nothing about.

Midday, however Midlife might be a more appropriate name or Menopause.

Bob_Harris

Elmo wrote: »

Midday, however Midlife might be a more appropriate name or Menopause.

In fairness to Midday they really capture the essence of a group of gossiping ould bats who, as said above, know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand.

Minstrel27

Anchises wrote: »

What about us guys in the fringe areas ?

They obviously couldn't give a damn about us. I am not bothered though as it is mostly ****e.

watty

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Anchises wrote:

What about us guys in the fringe areas ?

They obviously couldn't give a damn about us. I am not bothered though as it is mostly ****e.

Get a dish and watch ITV?

Bob_Harris

Bob_Harris wrote: »

In fairness to Midday they really capture the essence of a group of gossiping ould bats who, as said above, know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand.

I'd have said,they captured a cheap copy of itv's loose women [which tv3 used to show at that time]-copy of loose women=no original thought by the programme makers whatsoever.

sponge bob wrote:

I already have precisely such a service. It is called "ITV1 HD" and it does not carry expensive Irish programming like TV3 news and Vincenzo Brown and the breakfast stuff and the Lorraine Chick program where they dress up and look cute in South Dublin somewhere.....maybe as far out as the Curragh one day a year....budget permitting.

Lol.

Minstrel27

watty wrote: »

Get a dish and watch ITV?

I have ITV but they are the same as TV3. They show nothing worth watching most of the time

Sam Russell

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd have said,they captured a cheap copy of itv's loose women [which tv3 used to show at that time]-copy of loose women=no original thought by the programme makers whatsoever.Lol.

............... or by the participants. Unless by original, you mean off the wall based on ignorance and a misunderstanding of the topic.

madmoe

Hey guys,
Just turned on TV today and am using rabbit ears and TV3 coming in on digital now, crystal clear :-)

Cheers,
M

Elmo

madmoe wrote: »

Hey guys,
Just turned on TV today and am using rabbit ears and TV3 coming in on digital now, crystal clear :-)

Cheers,
M

You should also be receiving RTÉ 1, 2, TG4, NEWS NOW, 3e and an RTÉ NL HD Test broadcast.

madmoe

Elmo wrote: »

You should also be receiving RTÉ 1, 2, TG4, NEWS NOW, 3e and an RTÉ NL HD Test broadcast.

Yep, getting all those crystal clear. Had been for the past while but TV3 defo was not there until very recently....

Cheers,
M

Minstrel27

3e should only be a new channel for you too as that was turned on after TV3.

madmoe

Minstrel27 wrote: »

3e should only be a new channel for you too as that was turned on after TV3.

Must check that, where should it show up? After TV3? And is it always on?

watty

If your TV is using LCN it's Channel 6

It's running right now.

Elmo

watty wrote: »

If your TV is using LCN it's Channel 6

1. RTÉ One
2. RTÉ Two
3. TV3
4. TG4
5. RTÉ News Now
6. 3e
7. RTÉ NL HD Test
followed by the 10 RTÉ Radio stations

Just to avoid confusion with 3e's former name.

madmoe

Elmo wrote: »

1. RTÉ One
2. RTÉ Two
3. TV3
4. TG4
5. RTÉ News Now
6. 3e
7. RTÉ NL HD Test
followed by the 10 RTÉ Radio stations

Just to avoid confusion with 3e's former name.

Cheers lads,
Must check it out later today.

M

pa990

RTE TWO is now in HD and RTENL is back to SD