will new clubs make me better?

meath4sam

handycap 8 playing about ten years and been useing same clubs last prob 8 years, irons titleist dci 981 and driver titleist 975d and dunlop 3 wood and wilson hybrid 7 wood, i am realy interested in the knew clubs being released and always in mcguirks checking them out but would a investment of 6 or 7 hundard euro on ap2s or maybe 300 on a set of wilsons make me a better player,there is nothing wrong with my clubs i do love them but are they old and out of date so maybe a new driver may add 20 yards what u experts think,just feel when you ask the guy in shop all he want to do is sell.

mike12

go get custom fitted in some where like golf vision where they are not trying to sell u anything its a good service and they are not trying to push any piticular club at u

Dublin Spur

Changed my iorns from Taylor Made TPs to Ping G10s 2 years ago.
Went from h'cap of 12 to 6 in 15 months.
The game was so much easier with the Pings.
Changed all my wood / rescue to Pings over the past 2 yrs.

Fantastic clubs, I'll never buy different again

meath4sam

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Changed my iorns from Taylor Made TPs to Ping G10s 2 years ago.
Went from h'cap of 12 to 6 in 15 months.
The game was so much easier with the Pings.
Changed all my wood / rescue to Pings over the past 2 yrs.

Fantastic clubs, I'll never buy different again

did u get custom fitted or just buy from shop

Su Campu

I just bought a set of Wilson Di9 metal shaft irons today and tried them out at the range this evening. I play off 11, and have played graphite shafts up to now. Apparently these clubs will make the transition easier, and add extra yards. I didn't find that at the range though, I seemed to be getting the same yardage at best, but it's early days, and I need time to get used to them. We'll see...

stumpypeeps

Su Campu wrote: »

I just bought a set of Wilson Di9 metal shaft irons today and tried them out at the range this evening. I play off 11, and have played graphite shafts up to now. Apparently these clubs will make the transition easier, and add extra yards. I didn't find that at the range though, I seemed to be getting the same yardage at best, but it's early days, and I need time to get used to them. We'll see...

I doubt you'll see any improvement in distance with metal shafts, quite the opposite. What you will have is better control.

The graphite shafts are designed to give more distance to less flexible players.

PhilipMarlowe

I guess it depends is the best answer.
Rather than spending loads of money to find out I'd book a fitting session with Fore Golf in Naas and get expert advice. It may turn out that what you have is fine for you and someone as professional as Fore will tell you just that if that is the case. You can see form positive reviews here that they don't do a hard sell - example http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055846692

Don't spend 600 quid on a new set of irons in the hope that they will make you better.
If you do go for a fitting, the more you know about your own game beforehand the better because the interview about your game is an important part of the fitting.
In the fitting you should be able to try out various heads and shafts and see what gives the best results... don't focus too much on distances either because lofts can be wildly different making it seem like your new 7 iron goes miles when in fact the loft on it is close to the 6 iron of your 'old' set.
Also some drivers go further because of longer (than standard) shafts which is great for hitting it miles but bad for steerage.

Sticking with your existing equipment and investing in a few lessons or some extra short game practice will almost certainly make you a better player but you knew that already We all understand the lure of the shiny new stuff.

freyners

whenever i get a new shiny club, i alway play better than with the older one, but thats just the confidence boost and because i love shiny things:D
in your case i would say so, clubs have progressed alot over the last 4-5 years.

stumpypeeps wrote:

I doubt you'll see any improvement in distance with metal shafts, quite the opposite. What you will have is better control.

The graphite shafts are designed to give more distance to less flexible players.

I disagree
I was playing with x-12s (graphite) until last summer, bought mx 25s(metal) and added alot of distance to my irons, hittin a pitchin wedgge in replace of a 8 iron. agree on the control part tho

stumpypeeps

freyners wrote: »

whenever i get a new shiny club, i alway play better than with the older one, but thats just the confidence boost and because i love shiny things:D
in your case i would say so, clubs have progressed alot over the last 4-5 years.


I disagree
I was playing with x-12s (graphite) until last summer, bought mx 25s(metal) and added alot of distance to my irons, hittin a pitchin wedgge in replace of a 8 iron. agree on the control part tho

I always assumed the greater flex of a graphite shaft would give greater distance. Otherwise what is the point of graphite shafted irons at all?

freyners

i dont know you could be right , just giving my experience

stumpypeeps

freyners wrote: »

i dont know you could be right , just giving my experience

I did a little research. Its the lightness of the graphite vs steel that gives certain players a few extra yards. If you already have a good swing speed it probably cancels out.

Su Campu

stumpypeeps wrote: »

I always assumed the greater flex of a graphite shaft would give greater distance. Otherwise what is the point of graphite shafted irons at all?

The guy said graphite are for less experienced players by giving the ball a higher trajectory. With lower handicappers with higher swing speeds, the heavier steel-shafted clubs give the ball a lower more piercing trajectory, and the extra overall weight gives extra yards. Plus all the pros use steel, so it must be better!

I did find that with my graphites I was hitting the ball very high. I haven't hit the ball consistently enough with the new clubs this evening to be able to confirm trajectory, but I reckon with practice it will turn out to have been a good move.

soundsham

i'd look at a new driver & 3 wood....fitted
as for irons maybe new grips will do
and a new wedge or 2

have the same irons for last 5 years myself and wouldn't even look at a new set,everyone suits themselves I suppose

meath4sam

cheers for all the help lads sounds like custom fitting is the way to go and see what they have to say,will post results when i get the chance to do it,but dont hold your breath could be a while. anywhere close to ashbourne that does custom fitting.

Conor J

scrapped my old Wilson Midsize irons for some Taylor Made R9's, bought an R7 driver too, and my game has improved a lot.

I remember reading a report last year, that over the past 10 years the average handicap in america has reduced by almost 2 shots due to the improved technologies they are using.

stebed

I would say that your equipment is old enough to be holding you back now. If you are a GUI 8 handicap then you deserve some new sticks but €600 isn't gonna get you a bag full of new gear. Go and get fitted so you know what shafts you need then buy second hand, you can get the previous version AP2 iron used for about €350 and with Rifle shafts I think they are better than the new version, that should leave you enough money for a new driver and 3 wood even a rescue as well if you source used. I use a guy in the UK if you want his details.

Dublin Spur

meath4sam wrote: »

did u get custom fitted or just buy from shop

Got measured for them - eneded up with an extra 1/2 inch on the shafts.

Myksyk

Definitely get custom fitted. I had a custom fitting last week and my re-worked clubs are on the way down as I speak. It was a very enlightening process and convinced me that almost every golfer would probably benefit from having clubs fitted to match their tempo, swing speed, strength etc etc. You can buy new clubs but they could be the wrong clubs (wrong shaft, wrong head, wrong flex, wrong torque, wrong lie, wrong loft etc etc). I couldn't get over how much more easy it was for me to hit the driver with some shafts over others. If you're going to spend money spend it well. I went to foregolf and found them very good. Advised against new AP2s and said my current AP2 heads were perfect, so no pressure just to spend money for the sake of it. They did re-shaft and re-grip everything and it cost a bit but I think it will be worth the money.

Interestingly I came away thinking that far from being a process for the low to mid handicapper, custom fitting could significantly benefit high handicappers who are often struggling to hit balls straight with clubs that are too heavy or shafts that are too stiff. Great doing it and I will definitely be revisiting every couple of years if not more regularly to see if changes need to be made. The game is hard enough without fighting the equipment.

Su Campu

Well I had my first round witht he new Wilson Di9 metal shafts this morning and I'm impressed. Much better contact, particularly on the shorter shots. I was hitting the chips and pitches much sweeter, though whether that's down to the club or just my head is another question! :rolleyes: Money well spent!

Now if I could just get the putter working for me..... :mad: