dovea

boredmeeting

just wondering what do ye think of the selection of belgian blue bulls dovea have, i think munster ai are much better.

pakalasa

I think Dovea have the best Simmentals though.

leg wax

boredmeeting wrote: »

just wondering what do ye think of the selection of belgian blue bulls dovea have, i think munster ai are much better.

are you just judging the blue bulls in the beef catalogue

wiggy123

i think munster ai has joined up with NCBC, and is with Pg...also Goulding gentics..straws can be got through PG..

Indubitable

I use a combo of eurogene and french ai

boredmeeting

leg wax wrote: »

are you just judging the blue bulls in the beef catalogue

yeah munsters look much better dovea have alot of younger unproven BLUE bulls

mossfort

dovea have a choice of 19 belgian blue bulls ranging from easy calving to harder calved bulls which produce a bit more muscle.
i think it depends on which operator covers your area and how quickly they can come to do the job as there is plenty of choice in bulls between dovea or progressive.

boredmeeting

the specials look good alright but how much per straw are they

mossfort

boredmeeting wrote: »

the specials look good alright but how much per straw are they

i paid 30 euro for the service with barbier s656 hes an easy calving bull, the same charge as for the other blues.

boredmeeting

mossfort wrote: »

i paid 30 euro for the service with barbier s656 hes an easy calving bull, the same charge as for the other blues.

are all the blues the same price,did the cow calf yet?

mossfort

yes the one price we are charged for all bulls with dovea 30 euros .
no she was only ai,d a month ago.

pakalasa

One thing I've noticed with these AI companies is that they are a bit economical with the truth when it comes to selling the good points of the bull. Things like "easy calving" and "produces top class weanlings".

It is always worth checking out the bull on www.icbf.com to see just how good he really is.
Then, just use the bull on a few cows to see for yourself.;)

boredmeeting

mossfort wrote: »

one price we are charged for all bulls with dovea 30 euros .

i was looking at the ibbcs website all of dovea`s blue specials are 25/30 euro per straw, the AI MAN would hardly call out for free.

mossfort

boredmeeting wrote: »

mossfort wrote: »

one price we are charged for all bulls with dovea 30 euros .

i was looking at the ibbcs website all of dovea`s blue specials are 25/30 euro per straw, the AI MAN would hardly call out for free.

the ai man charges 30 euro per service , the same price for the blue special bull . the man is a self employed technician with dovea.
never mind what the belgian blue site says its dated 2006 .
if you want prices ring your local dovea technician and he will tell you straight away.

vanderbadger

mossfort wrote: »

boredmeeting wrote: »

the ai man charges 30 euro per service , the same price for the blue special bull . the man is a self employed technician with dovea.
never mind what the belgian blue site says its dated 2006 .
if you want prices ring your local dovea technician and he will tell you straight away.

ya they also charge me 30 for their blue bulls although I tried TZA on ped charolais cow which was 40 a pop and I think some of other charolais bulls were even more expensive

pakalasa

NCBC are €30 for any of the bulls and then €10 for a repeat. It was only €25 a pop 2 years ago and repeats free:mad:.
I think when the of milk price dropped a lot of milk guys stopped using AI and they upped their price as a result. To survive, I guess.

BTW, NCBC are made up of Sligo, Munster and Progressive Genetics. They're all the one now.

whymeagain

vanderbadger wrote: »

mossfort wrote: »

ya they also charge me 30 for their blue bulls although I tried TZA on ped charolais cow which was 40 a pop and I think some of other charolais bulls were even more expensive

i got that sang d`or last year he 70 or 80 euro call out included only 30 all in this year, i`m not so sure if all the blues are 30 euro here in south mayo

irishh_bob

pakalasa wrote: »

NCBC are €30 for any of the bulls and then €10 for a repeat. It was only €25 a pop 2 years ago and repeats free:mad:.
I think when the of milk price dropped a lot of milk guys stopped using AI and they upped their price as a result. To survive, I guess.

BTW, NCBC are made up of Sligo, Munster and Progressive Genetics. They're all the one now.

a.i usage is up this past few years , significantley up , anyone i know in milk stopped usiing ai for a particular reason and it had nothing to do with price

whymeagain

boredmeeting wrote: »

the specials look good alright but how much per straw are they

just got the dovea 2010 beef catalogue it states in the introduction that the semem in the specials section has an extra charge, it doesn`t state how much. i can`t see why there is not a price list with the bulls other details.....

boredmeeting

whymeagain wrote: »

just got the dovea 2010 beef catalogue it states in the introduction that the semem in the specials section has an extra charge, it doesn`t state how much. i can`t see why there is not a price list with the bulls other details.....

there should be a price guide published with all the AI companies catalogues ..

bogman_bass

irishh_bob wrote: »

a.i usage is up this past few years , significantley up , anyone i know in milk stopped usiing ai for a particular reason and it had nothing to do with price

Have to disagree there.
I work in the A.I. industry (I wont say which company). A.I. has been steadily dropping for the past 20 years. (beef and dairy bulls combined) those there has been an up swing this year.

I would say NCBC cant be beaten for blues most of them come from BBG in belgium but dovea are the best for simentials as somebody else said

wiggy123

hav PG increased there prices?..got beef catalogue out last week..few new bulls...
they have also joined forces with goulding..so some top bulls--are top prices..
1 angus bull--a straw is €120..want to be a lucky bull one...