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EI cabin crew hours

  • 10-03-2010 6:41pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭


    Just been reading RTE.IE news online and this doesnt make sense.

    According to this:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0310/aerlingus.html

    Cabin crew work 600 hours a year but it will now rise to 850.

    Am I missing something here?

    That works out at an average of 11.5 hours per week which will now rise to 16.3 hours. This is based on a 52 week year/average.

    Surely this is wrong.....?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭AfterDusk


    Just been reading RTE.IE news online and this doesnt make sense.

    According to this:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0310/aerlingus.html

    Cabin crew work 600 hours a year but it will now rise to 850.

    Am I missing something here?

    That works out at an average of 11.5 hours per week which will now rise to 16.3 hours. This is based on a 52 week year/average.

    Surely this is wrong.....?

    Wrong in what way exactly? Not sure how EI operate, but RYR cabin crew work a rota of 5 on, 2 off, 5 on, 3 off. If it's a similar system, a 5 day week would mean a little over 3 SBH hours a day. Not much wrong there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    neil2304 wrote: »
    Wrong in what way exactly? Not sure how EI operate, but RYR cabin crew work a rota of 5 on, 2 off, 5 on, 3 off. If it's a similar system, a 5 day week would mean a little over 3 SBH hours a day. Not much wrong there

    Wrong as in 11.5 hours work a week. Is that what a cabin crew works on average?

    What is SBH?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭djk1000


    Just been reading RTE.IE news online and this doesnt make sense.

    According to this:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0310/aerlingus.html

    Cabin crew work 600 hours a year but it will now rise to 850.

    Am I missing something here?

    That works out at an average of 11.5 hours per week which will now rise to 16.3 hours. This is based on a 52 week year/average.

    Surely this is wrong.....?

    Standard working week of 35 hours (excluding breaks) works out at just over 17, 35 hour weeks worked a year. Cushy! These figures are coming from the company though, so I wouldn't completely believe them, I mean if cabin crew end up out of the country for the night, they are stuck in a hotel until the following morning, that's probably not in the 600 hours figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭AfterDusk


    Wrong as in 11.5 hours work a week. Is that what a cabin crew works on average?

    What is SBH?

    Standard block hours - basically the time the aircraft is in the air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    neil2304 wrote: »
    Standard block hours - basically the time the aircraft is in the air.

    So what about the time preparing, sitting on the ground and ground meetings.

    I dont know much about this, but 16 hours of work, average, in one week seems ludicrous. Somehow I dont think its right, I couldnt be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭AfterDusk


    So what about the time preparing, sitting on the ground and ground meetings.

    I dont know much about this, but 16 hours of work, average, in one week seems ludicrous. Somehow I dont think its right, I couldnt be.

    Like I said I'm not sure how Aer Lingus operate, but like other carriers, staff may only be paid for Standard block hours. I could be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    neil2304 wrote: »
    Like I said I'm not sure how Aer Lingus operate, but like other carriers, staff may only be paid for Standard block hours. I could be wrong.

    Pilots can only fly for 900hrs per year and in the cargo end of things they are required to be at the acft one hour prior to departure, so when the cabin crew meet in the tech building just say an hour before hand that could be the start of their duty time.

    I know a few of the EI cabin crew and often they would do a US flight just say Dub-Mco at the start of the week that could bring the hours upto around 18 then do short haul towards the end of the week not including stand bye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭AfterDusk


    Pilots can only fly for 900hrs per year and in the cargo end of things they are required to be at the acft one hour prior to departure, so when the cabin crew meet in the tech building just say an hour before hand that could be the start of their duty time.

    I know a few of the EI cabin crew and often they would do a US flight just say Dub-Mco at the start of the week that could bring the hours upto around 18 then do short haul towards the end of the week not including stand bye.

    Yes but an hour before departure is a long time - Assuming that they do work a 5-day week that's already 5 hours gone from the 16. This is why I think they're only paid in SBH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭dasium


    blocks hours are calculated for airline crews, work from chocks off to chocks on.. when the plane pushes backs to its arrival... obviously the working day works out much longer...Aer Lingus crew check in 1hr 45 prior to departure for trans atlantic flights.. 1hr prior to shorthaul... there is obviously a time period for all the passengers to disembark, and periods between flights when doing doubles (2 flights in a day, eg a london + paris), rostered breaks normally take place during this period...

    So while it may seem a small no. of hrs 850 averaged weekly, Aer Lingus staff work the same as all of us, 35/40hrs a week rostered, with their delays can often be long days for their staff...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 flame123


    Am I missing something here?

    That works out at an average of 11.5 hours per week which will now rise to 16.3 hours. This is based on a 52 week year/average.

    Surely this is wrong.....?

    52 Week year / average .... Wow, so you would have them working 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year with no holidays etc etc


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