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What is wrong with people?

  • 10-03-2010 6:56am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭


    I usually avoid this crap but fcuk me this guy has issues.

    This guy beat this girl so bad, she need her intestines removed and all because she was crying all the time :(
    A two-year-old girl is in St. Louis Cardinal Glennon hospital recovering from a surgery that removed 18-feet of her intestines following a severe beating allegedly delivered by the hands of her mother's boyfriend.

    Doctors say the toddler, Amanda Runyon, also suffered a broken arm and bruising about her body. She may have to eat the rest of her life through a feeding tube.

    Yesterday the St. Clair County Sheriff's Department arrested 24-year-old Kraig Monroe in his trailer outside Belleville, charging him with aggravated battery of a child. He's being held on $500,000 bond.

    Authorities say the beatings began last week when the girl wouldn't stop crying.

    The Globe-Democrat reports that the girls mother came home Sunday night and gave the child Motrin. The next day she was vomiting and in and out of consciousness. The child was taken Belleville Memorial Hospital and then transferred to Cardinal Glennon where doctors there contacted law enforcement.

    This afternoon the St. Clair Police report that they have condemned the trailer in which Monroe for living and charged the 78-year-old landlord and owner of the trailer for failing to get an occupancy permit. Authorities also removed a pit bull that Monroe kept on the premises. (Pit bull, trailer, and child-beating? A true low-life trifecta!)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    White trailer trash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    I agree there is something wrong with the story here as in the beating of the 2 year old but looking at it do you not see that there is something wrong with the story as well. As in its a stero typical attack on a social class. The post above proves it..."White trailer trash"

    This is whats wrong with society and I would not be surprised if this is whats wrong in america. ie lack of social workers.

    As this is in after hours I would have to say I agree "American White trailer trash" however as many thousends of middle class americans have now lost thei homes and will end up in tents and trailers it will now become impossible to simply blame white trailer trash on the wrongs of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I agree there is something wrong with the story here as in the beating of the 2 year old but looking at it do you not see that there is something wrong with the story as well. As in its a stero typical attack on a social class. The post above proves it..."White trailer trash"
    you find it wrong that someone used a fecking stereotypical name for people even though the original post is about a child getting the crap kicked outta her? Prioritise your posts and dont worry about a stereotype. hopefully me man gets kicked all over the shop for being a prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    seanybiker wrote: »
    you find it wrong that someone used a fecking stereotypical name for people even though the original post is about a child getting the crap kicked outta her? Prioritise your posts and dont worry about a stereotype. hopefully me man gets kicked all over the shop for being a prick.


    What have you learned... More about the social class than the injury victum. I will leave it with you to figure but replace the destination with tallaght or ballymun and see what its reflecting about the classes.

    Its sad what happened to the child but what needs to be reported on more and tell me would it be any sadder if it happened in blackrock..

    Yes... with your opinion i can see why people from ballymun and tallaght have trouble getting jobs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    As in its a stero typical attack on a social class. The post above proves it..."White trailer trash"
    People don't make up stereotypes, stereotypes evolve based on long observation and are usually, but not always, very accurate. Even if we don't like to admit it.
    This is whats wrong with society and I would not be surprised if this is whats wrong in america. ie lack of social workers.
    You don't need social workers, what you need are people who are prepared to shoulder their own responsibilities in life and get on with it in a decent and law-abiding manner even if they don't have a 50" HDTV or whatever else the American dream is promising this week.
    As this is in after hours I would have to say I agree "American White trailer trash" however as many thousends of middle class americans have now lost thei homes and will end up in tents and trailers it will now become impossible to simply blame white trailer trash on the wrongs of the world.
    Being poor sucks and is not a crime but being a childbeater just because you are disadvantaged is not compulsory. How many of the new poor will spend their last few dollars on a pit bull? I don't think the WTT buy them for pets in the way that many decent people do.

    White trailer trash are not trash because they live in trailers, they are trash because of how they live in trailers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    69 wrote: »
    People don't make up stereotypes, stereotypes evolve based on long observation and are usually, but not always, very accurate. Even if we don't like to admit it.


    You don't need social workers, what you need are people who are prepared to shoulder their own responsibilities in life and get on with it in a decent and law-abiding manner even if they don't have a 50" HDTV or whatever else the American dream is promising this week.


    Being poor sucks and is not a crime but being a childbeater just because you are disadvantaged is not compulsory. How many of the new poor will spend their last few dollars on a pit bull? I don't think the WTT buy them for pets in the way that many decent people do.

    White trailer trash are not trash because they live in trailers, they are trash because of how they live in trailers.


    Nothing republician about this post. You are oblivious to the social classes and the stigmas attached.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    50 years from now, that girl is still gonna be suffering from this.. He should be shot and the mother too for going out with someone like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Nothing republician about this post. You are oblivious to the social classes and the stigmas attached.
    Republican? Sorry you lost me there.
    I am not oblivious to anything. I don't encourage belief in an artificial class structure. I believe we are all equal as human beings regardless of our race, creed or net worth. That said if someone wants to act out the role of scumbag I'll call him a scumbag.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thread got confusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭FunGoose


    Perhaps Robert Thompson has finally been located!? If so, now both murderers can be locked up again.

    But seriously, what a pure scumbag! What a worthless piece of crap to do something like that. What is wrong with people indeed. I wish I knew, or maybe I'm better off not knowing. Sickening! Put 'em down!

    *no offence to anyone in any social class whatsoever. The guy is white, lives in a trailer and is pure trash therefore he is white trailer trash, I am sure his neighbours are lovely!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I take it he's not the child's daddy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    It times like these I take joy in the fact that his fellow future inmates will be just as disgusted as we are about this, and they'll be in a position to act out against him because of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    It times like these I take joy in the fact that his fellow future inmates will be just as disgusted as we are about this, and they'll be in a position to act out against him because of it.

    Its my only comfort in this awful story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭ClutchIt


    69 wrote: »
    White trailer trash.

    We know they're white, he added pics. Also just cuz they live in a trailer what the hell does that have to do with it? Do all poor people in trailers beat up 2 year old girls?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Did you read any of the other posts are are you just jumping in with both feet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    More disgusting IMO
    ''my baby girl had soft hair, and pink skin. then i saw a flash of a knitting needle as my mum stabbed her in the face and neck over and over again''

    I win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    69 wrote: »
    White trailer trash.

    Surely there are millions of people who you can define as white trash who would never lift a hand to their child. Drug and alcohol abuse is probably a bigger factor here then social class. Your statement does not in anyway explain what happened to this little girl and is exactly the kind of flippant, middle class snobbery that stops decent people helping children out when they are at risk. "Oh that child is in danger but what can I do, she lives in a building on wheels."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    So you didn't you read any of the other posts either?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ClutchIt wrote: »
    We know they're white, he added pics. Also just cuz they live in a trailer what the hell does that have to do with it? Do all poor people in trailers beat up 2 year old girls?

    Stop being PC. It stopped being respected ten years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The sad fact is that when these kids are alive, most respectable people couldn't care less about their miserable lives.

    If they're a foetus, or when they die violently, that's a different case, of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    What is going on in the world when this type of stuff is constantly happening, Its sick.

    The only consolation I can take from this is that hopefully the hardcore prisoners in wherever he is going will do to him more than what he did to that little girl. Will serve the fucker right. Beatin on a child. Thats the lowes form of low down scum there is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    69 wrote: »
    So you didn't you read any of the other posts either?

    I did but I don't see how your opinion explains what happened to this little girl? I do agree that stereotypes are often close to the bone but a stereotype does not explain a 2 year old girl who has lost 18 feet of her intestines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    It would seem that owning pitbulls an being mental is the done thing in St. Louis.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Surely there are millions of people who you can define as white trash who would never lift a hand to their child.
    Lux23 wrote: »
    Drug and alcohol abuse is probably a bigger factor here then social class.
    Yes I agree. See my previous post "White trailer trash are not trash because they live in trailers, they are trash because of how they live in trailers. "
    Lux23 wrote: »
    Your statement does not in anyway explain what happened to this little girl and is exactly the kind of flippant, middle class snobbery that stops decent people helping children out when they are at risk. "Oh that child is in danger but what can I do, she lives in a building on wheels."
    I was not flippant, I am not a middle class snob, I'm not even middle class, I'm an ordinary working man who can't even afford a fancy semi-automatic pistol. It's not up to me to explain what happened to a child thousands of miles away nor am I in any way responsible for it. The parents were.

    Are you advocating that the social services target all trailer dwelling families to check are they taking good care of their children? Sounds extreme but how else will we know? If not what do you propose?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    After reading the OP, did anyone else initially think the girl had to have her intestines removed because she was crying all the time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    After reading the OP, did anyone else initially think the girl had to have her intestines removed because she was crying all the time?
    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭ClutchIt


    Stop being PC. It stopped being respected ten years ago.

    I hate being PC man but come on "White trailer trash" has to be one of the worst posts I've seen. It was written in a way as if it was some kind of explanation for the offence.

    Considering it comes after a sick story like this, he's just throwing out more snobbery and negativity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭ClutchIt


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    After reading the OP, did anyone else initially think the girl had to have her intestines removed because she was crying all the time?

    Totally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    69 wrote: »
    Yes I agree. See my previous post "White trailer trash are not trash because they live in trailers, they are trash because of how they live in trailers. "

    I was not flippant, I am not a middle class snob, I'm not even middle class, I'm an ordinary working man who can't even afford a fancy semi-automatic pistol. It's not up to me to explain what happened to a child thousands of miles away nor am I in any way responsible for it. The parents were.

    Are you advocating that the social services target all trailer dwelling families to check are they taking good care of their children? Sounds extreme but how else will we know? If not what do you propose?

    Seriously when did I bring anything up about social workers? But since you ask what I would advocate are social workers with a smaller work load so they can concentrate on individual cases and therefore avoid more of these tragedies. Sadly things like this are always going to happen but how many times has it come to light that services knew that the child was at risk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Seriously, some people on this thread need to get off their fcuking moral high horse.

    Calling someone 'trailer trash' immediately invokes the stereotypical person the poster was describing, withotu going into much detail here.

    We all know what is meant when someone uses a phrase like that, so stop bickering.

    The issue here isn't whether the guy lives in a trailer or not, its the fact the scumbag beat the living daylights out of a two year old.

    Calling him 'trailer trash' is very bloody mild TBH.

    They should remove his intestines, while he's in his senses, fcuking scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Awful story so it is, to do this to a child is barbaric. What the hell is wrong with people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Seriously, some people on this thread need to get off their fcuking moral high horse.

    Calling someone 'trailer trash' immediately invokes the stereotypical person the poster was describing, withotu going into much detail here.

    We all know what is meant when someone uses a phrase like that, so stop bickering.
    If the perpetrator was black and he'd been called a dirty n1igger would you be saying the same thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    stovelid wrote: »
    The sad fact is that when these kids are alive, most respectable people couldn't care less about their miserable lives.

    If they're a foetus, or when they die violently, that's a different case, of course.
    Absolutely. Peter Connelly (Baby P) would be considered a "little scumbag" because of his background if he was alive today.
    Makes my blood boil, as does the lapping up of abuse porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    If the mad was black and he'd been called a dirty ****** would you be saying the same thing?


    I think you're confusing racism and stereotyping TBH.

    But in fairness yeah, I couldn't give a sh1t what people call a scumbag like that. No name is strong enough to describe a person like that.

    There's probably nothing I hate more than political correctness. Its bloody ruining modern society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    What an asshole.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭BennyLava


    To answer the OP's question, there is nothing wrong with people

    just some who can't control themselves, and thankfully we have laws to deal with people like that

    Welcome to human nature, aren't we a lovely species


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    69 wrote: »
    White trailer trash.

    FYP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭CarMuppet


    I'm sick after reading this post...

    Not so sure about stereotyping (such a word?) parts of the general population but child abuse/neglect is the lowest of the low regardless of background/race/creed or finanical situation. This might sound like a cliche... but I feel even in this country you need a licence to look after a dog, but you don't for a child.



    This guy should be left in the general population of his local state pen for, say, two weeks... that should do it.



    .... then after his release from hospital back to the pen.



    Hope the poor little girl gets a chance with a real family sometime soon.


    Cheers,
    CarMuppet


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