UCD 2010 CAO applications first pref report

pathway33

2010 UCD physiotherapy first preferences up 44%!!!!

http://www.ucd.ie/news/2010/03MAR10/080210_cao.html

pathway33

the nationwide report on 2010 CAO applicant stats is on http://www2.cao.ie/dir_report/pdf/AppStats01Feb2010.pdf

Conor108

UCD Science first preferences up by 28.2%. Brilliant:rolleyes:

gant0

what does that mean?

spurious

gant0 wrote: »

what does that mean?

If more people want to do a course, then the points go up.

gaeilgegrinds1

There is a really good DVD on how the points system works, it can be difficult to explain, most career guidance teachers have it so if confused I'd say have a look. Very useful.

randylonghorn

gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »

There is a really good DVD on how the points system works, it can be difficult to explain, most career guidance teachers have it so if confused I'd say have a look. Very useful.

You don't happen to know if the vid. is available online? ... would be handy to link it here.

I was genuinely shocked last summer by how many people on here didn't have even the most basic understanding of how CAO system works!

ayumi

this is not good at all,food science was 385 last year and now its going up 9% which means its going to be 420 points this year!
and many other courses are going up!

Making It Bad

ayumi wrote: »

this is not good at all,food science was 385 last year and now its going up 9% which means its going to be 420 points this year!
and many other courses are going up!

Hmm? The percentage increase in applicants isn't directly proportional to the percentage points increase.

Conor108

And this is only showing first preferences!

Zephyr91

Ok I have a question...the course I want to do (primary teaching) has decreased in applicants by 4% or so. (woo!). Does this mean that points *may* decrease and won't likely increase?

almostnever

Please let the decrease in law applicants continue right 'til the end! Please!

unknown13

It will be interesting to see how much pharmacy goes down by

pathway33

randylonghorn wrote: »

You don't happen to know if the vid. is available online? ... would be handy to link it here.

I was genuinely shocked last summer by how many people on here didn't have even the most basic understanding of how CAO system works!

We should start a quiz of CAO questions. I'll get the ball rolling

Q1. I really want to do arts in UCD more than anything else but I'll never get it because the most points I'm going to get is 330 because I did crap in the mocks. I'll put UCD arts number 10 just in case I do get the points. This is the right thing to do isn't it?*

* Do not attempt this at home

lc2010

unknown13 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how much pharmacy goes down by

Why????

unknown13

lc2010 wrote: »

Why????

Because 26% less people have applied for it this year and most of the Pharmacy courses are in around the 500 point mark.

Liveit

Ah crap it says computer science went up by almost a third which is most likely the case in UCC aswell

randylonghorn

Zephyr91 wrote: »

Ok I have a question...the course I want to do (primary teaching) has decreased in applicants by 4% or so. (woo!). Does this mean that points *may* decrease and won't likely increase?

It would suggest that it is likely to stay around the same (assuming there isn't a late surge under the change of mind facility).

Do bear in mind though that the numbers applying are not the only factor.

If (hypothetically) 1,000 applied for 200 places last year, and the last person to be accepted got 425 points, then 425 was the cut-off.

If exactly 1,000 applied again this year, again for 200 places, but the results of those applying were generally better, and the last person to be accepted got 440 points, then that would be the cut-off.

So numbers applying aren't the only factor involved.

All that said, while the above could theoretically happen, big shifts for that reason aren't common. The fact that numbers applying has stayed much the same probably will mean that the points will stay much the same as well.

pathway33

randylonghorn wrote: »

You don't happen to know if the vid. is available online? ... would be handy to link it here.

This is unlikely to be the vid in question but it may save someone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-1CFUCLr0

Zephyr91

randylonghorn wrote: »

It would suggest that it is likely to stay around the same (assuming there isn't a late surge under the change of mind facility).

Do bear in mind though that the numbers applying are not the only factor.

If (hypothetically) 1,000 applied for 200 places last year, and the last person to be accepted got 425 points, then 425 was the cut-off.

If exactly 1,000 applied again this year, again for 200 places, but the results of those applying were generally better, and the last person to be accepted got 440 points, then that would be the cut-off.

So numbers applying aren't the only factor involved.

All that said, while the above could theoretically happen, big shifts for that reason aren't common. The fact that numbers applying has stayed much the same probably will mean that the points will stay much the same as well.

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

Crow92

Architecture is 12% down this year whoop whoop

Professional Griefer

almostnever wrote: »

Please let the decrease in law applicants continue right 'til the end! Please!

Lets hope people remove it from their applications as well:D

unknown13

almostnever wrote: »

Please let the decrease in law applicants continue right 'til the end! Please!

I am praying it will go down because I don't want to go to NUI Maynooth or DCU to do Law when I live very near UCD

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Lets hope people remove it from their applications as well:D

That would be very handy

pathway33

An indication of the way a 20% decrease in applicants for a subject does not necessarily mean a 20% drop in points can be seen by going to last years application stats figures on www.cao.ie and comparing with the drop in points through www.qualifax.ie

kev9100

Ok, this has scared the living **** out of me. I want to do Arts in UCD, which is 360 atm, and i got 395 in the mocks. Surely it can't go any higher than 380, right?

pathway33

kev9100 wrote: »

Ok, this has scared the living **** out of me. I want to do Arts in UVD, which is 360 atm, and i got 395 in the mocks. Surely it can't go any higher than 380, right?

I would say it won't go higher than 380 because there are over 1,200 places in UCD arts. UCD Arts can absorb an increase in demand more than any other course in the country. Statistically a 10% increase in demand will not result in a 10% increase in points for arts I would say.

But isn't there a new way of applying for UCD arts this year where you can pick subjects on your CAO instead of waiting till august/september? How does this work? Do different arts subjects now have different points?

unknown13

kev9100 wrote: »

Ok, this has scared the living **** out of me. I want to do Arts in UVD, which is 360 atm, and i got 395 in the mocks. Surely it can't go any higher than 380, right?

Speculation now is that it is going up to 400 but I can't see that happening maybe 390 is a very realistic possiblity but there are places like UCC, NUIG, NUIM and WIT that offer Arts courses so you don't know where people have put down on their CAO

kev9100

pathway33 wrote: »

But isn't there a new way of applying for UCD arts this year where you can pick subjects on your CAO instead of waiting till august/september? How does this work? Do different arts subjects now have different points?

Yes there is a different way to choose Arts this year. You can either choose DN012 and do a general Arts degree like in previous years or you can choose to do specialise in two subjects and minor in two subjects. Fortunately, the points are the same for all choices through the DN012 system.

gonnaplayrugby

arts news iz bad

also i think ill need to change the cao..can i swap a subject i put down history rather than economics

kev9100

gonnaplayrugby wrote: »

arts news iz bad

also i think ill need to change the cao..can i swap a subject i put down history rather than economics

As far as I'm aware you can change your subjects up to July.

unknown13

kev9100 wrote: »

As far as I'm aware you can change your subjects up to July.

The CAO is closed until May. I have Arts down in both NUIM and UCD but for UCD I left it blank and if I get it in UCD I will decide what I want to do when I get there

gerardduff

gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »

There is a really good DVD on how the points system works, it can be difficult to explain, most career guidance teachers have it so if confused I'd say have a look. Very useful.

Sure, have a look at the video if you think it might help you. The points system is based on supply and demand. The 'market', that is, student numbers (demand) versus available places (supply), dictates whether the points go up or down. The places are filled by students with the most points, until all places are filled. You could say "places are filled from the top down'. If there is a draw at the bottom there is random selection.

Hopefully the colleges will be able to use the early trends/predictions to move resources around and accommodate the maximum number of students. If they can plan ahead it should make any rise in points fairly undramatic.

To all CAO applicants: I hope you get the course you want next year. Make sure you apply for the one you want, not the one you think you might get.

If you're not sure about what course you want you probably need to think about it a bit more. So that means, ask questions, talk to people and do your homework.

Chewbacca.

Conor108 wrote: »

UCD Science first preferences up by 28.2%. At the moment looks like this:

1. DIT.........Science
2. DIT.........Science
3. UCD.........Physics with Astronomy and Space Science
4. UCD.........Computer Science
5. DCU.........Common Entry into Science (Undenominated Entry)
6. NUIM........Sciencerolleyes:

Don't worry you'll be going to DIT.

stainluss

Is there anyway of finding out the application no's for each course in DCU?:o

Bigdeadlydave

stainluss wrote: »

Is there anyway of finding out the application no's for each course in DCU?:o

No idea but Id love to know too.


I hope the law points go down a little

jumpguy

Awh **** medicine's gone up loads...I seriously hope there'll be a drop in the 2011 CAO...

unknown13

jumpguy wrote: »

Awh **** medicine's gone up loads...I seriously hope there'll be a drop in the 2011 CAO...

Don't worry about that because HPAT changes the points around and can make it harder or easier to get in regardless of the amount of people applying to do the course

MariaBabii

pathway33 wrote: »

We should start a quiz of CAO questions. I'll get the ball rolling

Q1. I really want to do arts in UCD more than anything else but I'll never get it because the most points I'm going to get is 330 because I did crap in the mocks. I'll put UCD arts number 10 just in case I do get the points. This is the right thing to do isn't it?*

* Do not attempt this at home

Nooo!! You put the highest points first! So if you want to do UCD arts and its the highest points you aim for, you put it first because if you don't get those points you will just go down the list till its a course do you get the sufficient point for? Hope it helps

RoRoCullen

pathway33 wrote: »

We should start a quiz of CAO questions. I'll get the ball rolling

Q1. I really want to do arts in UCD more than anything else but I'll never get it because the most points I'm going to get is 330 because I did crap in the mocks. I'll put UCD arts number 10 just in case I do get the points. This is the right thing to do isn't it?*

* Do not attempt this at home

NO. Im going to get 360 or else 380 if Im lucky.. I want it more than anything else too. So Im putting it as first incase something goes right in the exam, for once! lol

Sl!mCharles

kev9100 wrote: »

Ok, this has scared the living **** out of me. I want to do Arts in UCD, which is 360 atm, and i got 395 in the mocks. Surely it can't go any higher than 380, right?

was Arts 360 last year?
man, i thought it was about 390

Iwasfrozen

Sl!mCharles wrote: »

was Arts 360 last year?
man, i thought it was about 390

360 = minimum points
400 = average intake

Sl!mCharles

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

360 = minimum points
400 = average intake

Thanks fella

Iwasfrozen

Sl!mCharles wrote: »

Thanks fella

No prob, that's what I'm here for.

randylonghorn

MariaBabii wrote: »

Nooo!! You put the highest points first! So if you want to do UCD arts and its the highest points you aim for, you put it first because if you don't get those points you will just go down the list till its a course do you get the sufficient point for? Hope it helps

RoRoCullen wrote: »

NO. Im going to get 360 or else 380 if Im lucky.. I want it more than anything else too. So Im putting it as first incase something goes right in the exam, for once! lol

I think he was being facetious!

Still, no harm to clarify ...