Farm Roadways

Landys

Hi

Thinking of putting in a farm roadway, will be 250 - 300 meters long , just wondering does anyone know how much stone this would take. Its on decent enough ground but will still need to put in 6 inches of fill i'm sure and probaby have to be 3meters wide.

Any advise or suggestions welcome. Dont have any stone on the place so will probably have to but the stone which will leave it dear enough on me.

Thanks

roadtripman

I in put a roadway for machinery last year 600 meters x 4 meters x 10 inches and it used 45 truck loads, there was a few low spots and bends that used up extra. If its a road for machinery 3 meters is too tight also if its fenced at 4 meters a track machine will be able to track the full width of the road with might be useful in years to come when you want to resurface/repair it.

dar31

depends what machinery or number of stock will be traveling on the roads, but i say at least 4 metres.
ours are in at over 4 meters and we are slowly widening them to over 5 meters

Landys

Thanks lads

Will only be slurry tank etc on road so think 3 meters will be wide enough and ground is good so also hoping to get away with 6-7 inches of stone. Even at these measurements will still run into a lot of money.

yellow50HX

Looking at redoing the roadway and extending part out it. Have been having a lot of oroblems with lameness over the last few years and a length of the track got washed away. Want to use it for moving the cattle and also for tractor access to the fields rather then cutting up the grass. Also as I feed the cows on kale or beet over the winters I want them to have a better walkway as I'll be looking at putting it in fields further away from the yard.

What kind of cost would you be looking at?
Width of track about 3,5-4m about 500 m long.
Land is good so won't be sinking into rushes

paddysdream

One ton of 804 covers 200 square feet at 1 inch deep.

MFdaveIreland

I'm afraid I'm not versed on costings, but regards pad for cows to walk on, I helped put one in during placement year, hardcore fill, topped up with quarry dust then wood chippings to keep the feet from getting cut to bits on the stones, the chippings were reclaimed so to speak not new if that makes sense so cud well have been cheaper,

paddysdream

Six inches of filling ain't a lot for a roadway.Best to go at least 9 or more.
4 or 6 inch clean and blind with a couple of inches of 804.

4 inch clean would prob. do 10 to 15 linear meters per lorry load on your roadway depending on depth.
804 is about 8 euro per ton inc. vat and clean stone a little less.
To strip the ground(on average going;all fields are different) 250m to 300m per day leaving the clay to one side or no waiting for dumper at say ?35 per hour plus vat.

Always found it best to dig,stone,track it in and blind it lightly then use it for 6 months or longer and go back over and blind it again .All soft spots,potholes etc will only appear after a bit of traffic.Nothing like a few lorries to roll in a roadway.

Don't forget all vat is reclaimable on farm roadways.
After all that can't rem. what a roadway I did last year cost me.Part of a clearing up,building and general improvement job so not priced seperately.

newmug

Use crushed concrete / spoil. Most block making plants will have it. E6 per tonne plus vat off Kilsaran, so E150 per lorry load. 6 loads covered 700 square metres for me at about 4 inches in depth. Its a good mix of stuff, plenty of small bits to help it pack.

frazzledhome

My roads cost €20/ linear meter 4m wide

That's shale delivered and levelled with 360 machine. Not removal of topsoil as I put on top to keep on over paddocks.

BTW that's for cows not great for constant machine traffic

Viewtodiefor

yellow50HX wrote: »

Looking at redoing the roadway and extending part out it. Have been having a lot of oroblems with lameness over the last few years and a length of the track got washed away. Want to use it for moving the cattle and also for tractor access to the fields rather then cutting up the grass. Also as I feed the cows on kale or beet over the winters I want them to have a better walkway as I'll be looking at putting it in fields further away from the yard.

What kind of cost would you be looking at?
Width of track about 3,5-4m about 500 m long.
Land is good so won't be sinking into rushes

€17 per meter. If your driving on it a good bit maybe better remove topsoil.

paddysdream

newmug wrote: »

Use crushed concrete / spoil. Most block making plants will have it. E6 per tonne plus vat off Kilsaran, so E150 per lorry load. 6 loads covered 700 square metres for me at about 4 inches in depth. Its a good mix of stuff, plenty of small bits to help it pack.

Sounds a bit pricey for spoil.That sort of stuff is quiet good for roadways if its good but 4 inches deep sounds very very shallow.
Wouldn't like to put a lot of traffic on it.

PN14

300m long x 3m wide x 8" deep gives up a total cubic meterage of 180 Cu M. Tonnage of stone / Cu M varies on stone type but for an average lets take 2.0 tns / m3. Therefore you'll need 360 tns total at 20tn per legal load for an 8 wheeler lorry thats approx 18 lorry loads. You'll probably need to budget for 2 more loads to allow for low spots/gaps etc.

Would agree OP with other posters that 3m is tight 4m would be my minimum really. After a while 3m will effectively be 2.5m with grass growth under fences etc. Also 3m is too tight for turning on and off the passage into paddocks with machinery. You'll need massive gaps/gates into paddocks to get turning area.

Ideally topsoil should be stripped off in advance if passage will see lots of machinery use the topsoil if left will settle at different levels causing potholes low areas etc. If you allow for a top up of the passage after say 6 months you could get over this.

Also I would advise you to install a layer of geotextile/terram between the soil and the stone. It keeps the stone from mixing with the soil and helps prevent settlement. It relatively inexpensive and well worth it two rolls should do you it generally comes in 150m rolls 4.5m wide

Zr105

Would definitly say go to 4m wide, most bigger tankers are 2.8-2.9 meters wide at the wheels, so at 3m your hardly even leaving an inch of room... It'll cost less to make it 4meters from day 1 than to have to pull a fence and make it wider after.
At 8inches deep its only an extra cubic meter of stone for every eters in length so not a whole pile!

And on digging out was talking to a guy one day and he said that a few times they were doing road ways the ploughed it(plough would have been set to about 8inches anyways so ideal) then just ran the loader along and scooped out the furrows! Thought in fairness it was a quick and simple way of doing it!