realizing potential of .223

poulo6.5

hi everyone, i just want to take this opportunity to thank shanmoll308 for helping me to realize the potential of my tika tactical .223 . he knows his stuff and in no time had me plinking nicely at 300 yards:D

i was delighted with that and didnt think it would do much better;) think again says shenmoll, next was 400, with same results , i was over the moon thinking to my self how good the gun was . but there was more .

500 , i'm thinking to my self that i might get a lucky one or two some where on the larger 2 ft plate. imagine my surprise when it dinged on the plate exactly where i was aiming. :D

now says shanmoll. get on that 6inch steel disc on the right and give me a nice tidy group.
shot 1 , "ding" dead center i'm now grinning ear to ear.
shot 2 , "ding" just above center , a beginning of a nice group.
shot 3 , pressure on , "ding" back in the first hole dead center, i dont believe it

again thanks to shanmoll308 i would never have done it with out his help.

tomcat220t

Thats some fine shooting .;)What .223 ammo did ya use ?

poulo6.5

tomcat220t wrote: »

Thats some fine shooting .;)What .223 ammo did ya use ?

i was using 75g hornady HPBT for that group, but i was getting almost as good groups with 55g v-max hornady and federal 55g v-shock. i still cant believe it.:D

i should have taken more pics to show the progress but i was having two much fun at the time. i tested 55g sako game head, 55g federal v-shock, 55g hornady v-max and 75g hornady BTHP. all with very good results. we worked out the minutes on my scope for all of these for 100y, 300y, 400y, and the magic 500.


here are two pics of 100 yard first one is the 75g hornady, all 4 together. second one is 55g hornady , i pulled the first shot thats why its a little gap between the rest of them. thats my excuse and i'm sticking to it.:rolleyes:

foxshooter243

poulo6.5 wrote: »

i was using 75g hornady HPBT for that group, but i was getting almost as good groups with 55g v-max hornady and federal 55g v-shock. i still cant believe it.:D

i should have taken more pics to show the progress but i was having two much fun at the time. i tested 55g sako game head, 55g federal v-shock, 55g hornady v-max and 75g hornady BTHP. all with very good results. we worked out the minutes on my scope for all of these for 100y, 300y, 400y, and the magic 500.


here are two pics of 100 yard first one is the 75g hornady, all 4 together. second one is 55g hornady , i pulled the first shot thats why its a little gap between the rest of them. thats my excuse and i'm sticking to it.:rolleyes:

The 223 with the right ammo is a capable performer all right-heres a link to a thread on the same subject;

<mod snip>

with an even faster twist and heavier ammo they will go to the 1 k mark.

poulo6.5

thanks foxshooter243, my tika has a 1 8 twist, the lad that was with me said that i should have no problem getting out to 800 y , i'm looking forward to trying,

bitemybanger

Thats some nice shootin paulo. How much of a drop were you alowing for @ 4 and 500yds??

poulo6.5

bitemybanger wrote: »

Thats some nice shootin paulo. How much of a drop were you alowing for @ 4 and 500yds??

thanks, 4 min @300 , 11 3/4 min @400 , 13 1/4 min @ 500.with the 75g BTHP.

k_d

whats your setup?

riflehunter77

Fair play thats some shooting, need to get out with my .223 and get some long range practice in :D

poulo6.5

k_d wrote: »

whats your setup?

tika t3 tactical .223 , t8 mod , Harris bypod 6-9. swift scope 4-12x 56. i think thats it.

ianoo

well lads
any one any links to bullet drop charts for the .233 out too 600-700 yrds for 55 gr rounds ,or do you have to work them out yourself ??

ian

poulo6.5

ianoo wrote: »

well lads
any one any links to bullet drop charts for the .233 out too 600-700 yrds for 55 gr rounds ,or do you have to work them out yourself ??

ian

i could ask the lad that brought me out, he worked them out him self. they were bang on in my rifle. what are you using .

foxshooter243

ianoo wrote: »

well lads
any one any links to bullet drop charts for the .233 out too 600-700 yrds for 55 gr rounds ,or do you have to work them out yourself ??

ian

heres a ballistic calculator;

http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculator

input your velocity and other requirements and it will throw you up a chart, you will then have to check the accuraccy in the field..any problems pm me and ill help you out;)

poulo6.5

foxshooter243 wrote: »

heres a ballistic calculator;

http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculator

input your velocity and other requirements and it will throw you up a chart, you will then have to check the accuraccy in the field..any problems pm me and ill help you out;)

how do you work out the bc of the round. its one of the fields that needs to be filled in

foxshooter243

poulo6.5 wrote: »

how do you work out the bc of the round. its one of the fields that needs to be filled in

give me the name and weight of the bullet your using and ill tell you the B.C, I get the b.c figures from reloading manuals and ballistic programs such as sierra infinity and the likes..

poulo6.5

foxshooter243 wrote: »

give me the name and weight of the bullet your using and ill tell you the B.C, I get the b.c figures from reloading manuals and ballistic programs such as sierra infinity and the likes..

i use 55gr hornady v-max. and 75gr BTHP hornady .

ianoo

poulo6.5 wrote: »

i could ask the lad that brought me out, he worked them out him self. they were bang on in my rifle. what are you using .

thanks paulo ,im using federal 55gr v-shock nosler ballistic tips

foxshooter243 wrote: »

heres a ballistic calculator;

http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculator

input your velocity and other requirements and it will throw you up a chart, you will then have to check the accuraccy in the field..any problems pm me and ill help you out;)

thanks foxshooter ,thats a handy site goig to 1000yrds ,going to have to find out what the b.c for the rds are do

thanks again lads
ian

foxshooter243

ianoo wrote: »

thanks paulo ,im using federal 55gr v-shock nosler ballistic tips


thanks foxshooter ,thats a handy site goig to 1000yrds ,going to have to find out what the b.c for the rds are do

thanks again lads
ian

The b.c of 55 grain noslers is .267;)

foxshooter243

poulo6.5 wrote: »

i use 55gr hornady v-max. and 75gr BTHP hornady .

55 grain v max are 0.255 and the 75 grain BTHP are 0.395;)

kay 9

foxshooter243 wrote: »

55 grain v max are 0.255 and the 75 grain BTHP are 0.395;)

Hey Foxshooter, may I ask if you have the B.C for 40 grain v-max. Cheers for that link, damn handy

riflehunter77

foxshooter243 wrote: »

55 grain v max are 0.255 and the 75 grain BTHP are 0.395;)

Sorry to jump in here lads but just wanted to say thanks for that foxshooter, its was wrecking my head trying to find the above info.

foxshooter243

kay 9 wrote: »

Hey Foxshooter, may I ask if you have the B.C for 40 grain v-max. Cheers for that link, damn handy

40 grain v max in 224 calibre are 0.200 and if you are shooting 40 grain v max in a 204 they are 0.210..:)

kay 9

foxshooter243 wrote: »

40 grain v max in 224 calibre are 0.200 and if you are shooting 40 grain v max in a 204 they are 0.210..:)

Thanks for that buddy, forgot to state calibre:o

foxshooter243

http://www.biggameinfo.com/BalCalc.aspx

heres another calculator which will give you drops with tighter increments, remember that you need to input good info to get good info out and then recheck in the field;)

kay 9

I must print off a few of the different types. Handy to have.

tomcat220t

foxshooter243 wrote: »

40 grain v max in 224 calibre are 0.200 and if you are shooting 40 grain v max in a 204 they are 0.210..:)

Hornady .204 , 40gr vmax is .275 B/C

foxshooter243

tomcat220t wrote: »

Hornady .204 , 40gr vmax is .275 B/C

correct im looking at the 32 grainers:o, thats what you get reading without glasses:D

tomcat220t

foxshooter243 wrote: »

correct im looking at the 32 grainers:o, thats what you get reading without glasses:D

Life would be borning if everyone got it right all of the time .Some good info.. on the b/c of the .223 ,fair play foxshooter .

ianoo

foxshooter243 wrote: »

The b.c of 55 grain noslers is .267;)

fair play foxshooter
you are playing a blinder :):)

ian

kay 9

tomcat220t wrote: »

Life would be borning if everyone got it right all of the time .Some good info.. on the b/c of the .223 ,fair play foxshooter .

+1 on that, cheers Foxshooter...

Regards Kay 9. Tried out that today to 350 yds and its spot on

Saddlebags

Excellent info here but here is a spanner in the works.
What happens when you stick a suppressor on?
My T3 lite is zeroed at 200 yrds but the round drops dramatically when put through a T4 (almost 8 inches! but when re-zeroed is sub MOA) Should I expect a pro rata drop across the ranges or will it I find it is all over the place?
I will find out next day I'm on the range but just wondering what to expect.

foxshooter243

kay 9 wrote: »

+1 on that, cheers Foxshooter...

Regards Kay 9. Tried out that today to 350 yds and its spot on

Good to hear Kay 9!..what bullet are you using in your rifle?

foxshooter243

Saddlebags wrote: »

Excellent info here but here is a spanner in the works.
What happens when you stick a suppressor on?
My T3 lite is zeroed at 200 yrds but the round drops dramatically when put through a T4 (almost 8 inches! but when re-zeroed is sub MOA) Should I expect a pro rata drop across the ranges or will it I find it is all over the place?
I will find out next day I'm on the range but just wondering what to expect.

I would think you should expect a pro rata drop with the mod on....an eight inch drop is outside the norm with a mod fitted is it not?

Saddlebags

foxshooter243 wrote: »

I would think you should expect a pro rata drop with the mod on....an eight inch drop is outside the norm with a mod fitted is it not?

8" may be a slight embellishment but not by much, 6/7" for def. A fellow shooter with a T8 said he was dropping close to 8" too.
Having said that, once re zeroed it is excellent - very happy with it, shooting 75gr BTHP hornady ammo.

foxshooter243

Saddlebags wrote: »

8" may be a slight embellishment but not by much, 6/7" for def. A fellow shooter with a T8 said he was dropping close to 8" too.
Having said that, once re zeroed it is excellent - very happy with it, shooting 75gr BTHP hornady ammo.

have the mod fitted when you zero for the chart and everything should correspond I reckon..a ballistc chart is just a prediction of the external ballistics and should be the same with or without a mod as long as the zero range you inputted corresponds;)

kay 9

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Good to hear Kay 9!..what bullet are you using in your rifle?

At the moment Foxshooter im runnin 55 grainers in v-max in a .223 but prefer 40 grain v-max myself. But all worked as sweet as the proverbial nut:D Just gotta print off small cards and might even stick it in on the stock or to side of scope for amount of clicks up or down etc. Will work a treat with the rangefinder and also cuts out the bull**** of holdover as I dont have a mildot reticle. All i need now is the reds to stand just a little bit longer:D Most my shootin aint past 250 yds anyway, even during the day on greycrows etc so I don't have to worry too much really. Nice to have for plinking at different ranges though or trying my luck at the odd grey out further.;)

fish slapped

Really good thread and thanks to all those that contributed.

Fish

poulo6.5

fish slapped wrote: »

Really good thread and thanks to all those that contributed.

Fish

some of ye lads were up all night now that's dedication. fair play .

on the moderator, i have a t8 and my rifle is O'd with it on and its sub 1/2 moa @ 500y as you can see from my first pic. i tried it with the mod off one day and @ 100y it was 6-8" high and left. that would match what the rest of ye are saying, it must have something to do with harmonics

foxshooter243

kay 9 wrote: »

At the moment Foxshooter im runnin 55 grainers in v-max in a .223 but prefer 40 grain v-max myself. But all worked as sweet as the proverbial nut:D Just gotta print off small cards and might even stick it in on the stock or to side of scope for amount of clicks up or down etc. Will work a treat with the rangefinder and also cuts out the bull**** of holdover as I dont have a mildot reticle. All i need now is the reds to stand just a little bit longer:D Most my shootin aint past 250 yds anyway, even during the day on greycrows etc so I don't have to worry too much really. Nice to have for plinking at different ranges though or trying my luck at the odd grey out further.;)

Its now time to get working on some wind charts, then you can buy one of these;
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031409619839a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Product_liberal&QueryText=anemometers&sort=all&Go.y=11&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&Go.x=21&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23

kay 9

foxshooter243 wrote: »

Its now time to get working on some wind charts, then you can buy one of these;
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031409619839a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Product_liberal&QueryText=anemometers&sort=all&Go.y=11&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&Go.x=21&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23

haha, if the old fella sees me with anymore shootin gadgets or bits and bobs, he'll be sayin I'm watchin too much sniper or nickname me Thomas Beckitt lol. But agree, looks like a handy little tool for the longer distances:D

tictac3

hi, guys first post , nice shooting paulo , i have a t3 tactical also , so ill be testing out your drops at 300, 400, and 500yds as soon as I get a chance ,mine seems to like the heavy ammo the best results ive had are with hornady 75g bthp

poulo6.5

tictac3 wrote: »

hi, guys first post , nice shooting paulo , i have a t3 tactical also , so ill be testing out your drops at 300, 400, and 500yds as soon as I get a chance ,mine seems to like the heavy ammo the best results ive had are with hornady 75g bthp

How's it going and welcome to boards
It's nice to see my old tread brought back to life.
Anyway. The 75gr BTHP that you have will give you great results. But if you want a good hunting round try the 55 gr hornady v-max. They are excellent in my tikka.

tictac3

thanks paulo ,ive tried the 55g vmax as well there not bad but the 75g seem to be a bit more accurate and consistant , but ive only shot both at 100 and 200 yds getting .5 in groups with the 75g and .75 in with the 55g @ 100yds that s just based on 6 three shot groups of each but the 75g definitly seemed better . any other ammo you know shoots well in them and did you find that the 75g worked better at long distances ?

Tackleberrywho

tictac3 wrote: »

thanks paulo ,ive tried the 55g vmax as well there not bad but the 75g seem to be a bit more accurate and consistant , but ive only shot both at 100 and 200 yds getting .5 in groups with the 75g and .75 in with the 55g @ 100yds that s just based on 6 three shot groups of each but the 75g definitly seemed better . any other ammo you know shoots well in them and did you find that the 75g worked better at long distances ?

I got a Bungie rabbit last week with 55grain hornady Moly @457yards

However I have a 1 in 12 twist rate so the 75grains will not group in mine.

Anyone who shoots 600+ with a .223 uses 75 grain AFAIK however for field shooting you are best stick with Hornady 55grain vmax, having said that Paulo has got his hands on some 50grain stuff from Norma recently that I am keen to try