HELP WANT TO BE A DOCTOR!!!!

THEMAVS4LIFE

OK, from the topic u understand i want to become a doctor. as i know how hard it is to achieve the 565+ {leaving cert} i want to know other options to get into
Medicine But, ESSENTIAL {DOCTOR!!!1} By the way im 16 in 4th year.i asked my career advisor he told me when u choose the option below you can do medicine but you can't study to become a doctor.

1) Go to college and study a degree for 4 years in a science subject then transfer to medicine.


please tell be if i choose this option could i become a doctor if not please tell me my options

please reply :D

MicraBoy

Well I guess this should be in Health Sciences Education, but how and ever...

http://www.cao.ie/index.php?page=****

You need only 480 points in Leaving cert PLUS an adequate score in the HPAT exam to get into undergraduate medicine. That is the new system. I think it works by combining scores of the two. Check out CAO.ie for exact details on this. This route takes 6 years + 1 year as intern.

You can also do medicine by the graduate route. Do a Level 8 degree in anything, you must get a 2.1 and then take the GAMSAT exam. Your score in GAMSAT will determine if you get in. This route takes 4 years for primary degree + 4 years medicine degree + 1 year as an intern.

Both routes will allow you to be a doctor. Once you do your intern year (after you graduate from medicine) you can register as a fully fledged doctor. I think your guidance councellor needs some guidance.

allsaintssue

Hey:)
I am in my third year of nursing, sitting the gamsat tomorrow (:eek:why amn't I studying??!) and have every intention of doing post grad medicine. I've been planning my route for about 6 years (when it dawned on me I wasnt getting 500+ points) so any questions you want answered just pm me and I will try my best:)
Suze.

Laydee

MicraBoy wrote: »

I think your guidance councellor needs some guidance.

Unfortunately that is the case for many guidance counsellors. I've only ever had 2 but both could have done with knowing alot more or being sent on refresher courses.

I'm in a PLC college now & our guidance counsellor hasn't got the foggiest, he asked me for advice for another student because he knew that I was up to speed with the application process for mature students.

When I was in secondary school my guidance counsellor told me that I could not be a doctor because I didn't do science. This was in 1st year, I could have transferred at that stage but the advice I got was rethink what you want to do with your life.

Warrior011

Laydee wrote: »

Unfortunately that is the case for many guidance counsellors. I've only ever had 2 but both could have done with knowing alot more or being sent on refresher courses.

I know what you mean, when I was in 6th year the guidance counsellor in my school didn't know anything about the HPAT test, he actually came to me and asked me about it.

LookBehindYou

There is a shortage of doctors in this country, yet there are only a small amount of training places, hence the huge amount of points needed.

I suggest that the Minister should,if she is serious about upping the number of doctors, set up another training college for doctors.
The extra places available would bring down the points needed.
The college could be totally funded by the government, who in turn could get their return by ensuring that the trained doctors would sign up to work for the HSE for min of 5 years.

sam34

LookBehindYou wrote: »

There is a shortage of doctors in this country, yet there are only a small amount of training places, hence the huge amount of points needed.

I suggest that the Minister should,if she is serious about upping the number of doctors, set up another training college for doctors.
The extra places available would bring down the points needed.
The college could be totally funded by the government, who in turn could get their return by ensuring that the trained doctors would sign up to work for the HSE for min of 5 years.

she's not serious about upping the numbers of doctors.

in fact, for every new consultant post, she plans to cut 2 NCHD posts

so she aint gonna be creating a new med school anytime soon

ORLY?

LookBehindYou wrote: »

There is a shortage of doctors in this country, yet there are only a small amount of training places, hence the huge amount of points needed.

I suggest that the Minister should,if she is serious about upping the number of doctors, set up another training college for doctors.
The extra places available would bring down the points needed.
The college could be totally funded by the government, who in turn could get their return by ensuring that the trained doctors would sign up to work for the HSE for min of 5 years.

You are aware that UL Medical school was only established in 2007? It took in 30 EU students that year, 50 the year after, 50 last year and will take in 70 next year.

On top of that graduate places were awarded to the schools already operating at UCC, RCSI and UCD and I think that all of these colleges have got some increase in graduate places this year. The financial situation was supposed to have put a delay on bringing in these places but it looks like they're going to bring in all the proposed extra graduate places eventually. For UL this will mean that they could eventually get to 120 EU students. I don't know how many extra places the other colleges may eventually have.

flyswatter

Just a question, is it possible to get into Medicine as a mature student?

locum-motion

LookBehindYou wrote: »

There is a shortage of doctors in this country, yet there are only a small amount of training places, hence the huge amount of points needed.

I suggest that the Minister should,if she is serious about upping the number of doctors, set up another training college for doctors.
The extra places available would bring down the points needed.
The college could be totally funded by the government, who in turn could get their return by ensuring that the trained doctors would sign up to work for the HSE for min of 5 years.

Be careful what you wish for; you might just get it!

If there's more schools of Medicine, it might go the way that Pharmacy went.

For many years, there was only 50 places per annum for Pharmacy students, in TCD. "We need to train more Pharmacists" was a common refrain. While the Govt dillied and dallied about, doing nothing, some more entrepreneurial students got up off their asses and went to the UK to study. Then the trickle became a flood; there are 16 schools of Pharmacy (SOPs) in the UK and at least some of them have 100+ Irish students in each year.

Meanwhile, here in Ireland TCD eventually increased to 70 places per annum, while new SOPs were opened in RSCI and UCC with 105 places per annum between them. However, by this time, the large numbers of UK-qualified Irish Pharmacists coming home had taken up all of the slack.

According to what I hear from people who should know, over half of the 175 or so Irish-trained Pharmacists who registered in Dec '09 have had to emigrate to find work (ironically, mostly to the UK, as they are now training so many Pharmacists for the Irish job market that there's work to be had over there).

EducationFinder

Are the points you have to get in The U.k Any different to here in ireland? (SO srry for off the topic XD)

Laydee

flyswatter wrote: »

Just a question, is it possible to get into Medicine as a mature student?

Yes, although you will need to sit the HPAT test. In order to sit the HPAT you need a LC number, so you must have sat your leaving cert regardless of the fact that you are applying based on mature years and not educational background.

flyswatter

Thanks for that Laydee.

Narkius Maximus

There are now serious concerns that we are actually educating more doctors than there are jobs for. With all the Graduate entry posts graduating their charter year's docs in the next year or two there is going to be even more of a panic to get into spots. I recognise that the beloved HSE has centralised applications so it makes things a little more fair and transparent at an intern level but I still don't see how we an cater for all these interns. There are going to be junior docs out of employment. We cannot facilitate any more medical schools here, especially as sam said above, official policy is to repress two NCHD spots for every new consultant post appointed.

And it's no more glotious at the other end for SpRs finishing schemes-100 highly specialised, highly skilled SpRs per year leave Ireland because there are no positions to go in to.

mcdermla

allsaintssue wrote: »

Hey:)
I am in my third year of nursing, sitting the gamsat tomorrow (:eek:why amn't I studying??!) and have every intention of doing post grad medicine. I've been planning my route for about 6 years (when it dawned on me I wasnt getting 500+ points) so any questions you want answered just pm me and I will try my best:)
Suze.

How did it go?? I'm doing nursing but wanna venture into medicine afterwards but scared the exam is too hard