How many odds on favourites have been beating in cheltenham since 2003

krustydoyle

lads need a bit of help with this one..

How many odds on favourites have been beating at the festival since 2003??

theres money on it..

only one i can think of is kasbah bliss at 10/11 few years back..

Help pls....

Colonel Sanders

Voy Por last year too

I think kauto was slightly odds on (10/11?) in 2008

wb

Here ya go.

krustydoyle

wb wrote: »

Here ya go.

Decent man, thanks.;)

brandon_flowers

Franchoek in the Triumph Hurdle in 2008?? It stands out because the arse fell out of my bank account in the space of 45 minutes with him and Kauto.

Colonel Sanders

brandon_flowers wrote: »

Franchoek in the Triumph Hurdle in 2008?? It stands out because the arse fell out of my bank account in the space of 45 minutes with him and Kauto.

evs IIRC

krustydoyle

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

evs IIRC

thats right colonel.. think thats them all

thirtypence

lads, another question.............does anyone know of any horses that have won at checltenham, then not ran again until the following cheltenham and then won again at that festival? i.e. what quevega is attempting to do

Morgans

I think Stormyfairweather did it about 10 years ago.

Oops no. I was wrong.

cson

That's another strange market this year in Cheltenham imo, Quevega is against a stronger field than last year I'd think and without a run since this time last year almost is still favourite. She has to be a lay based on that imo.

Morgans

I think she has far fewer dangers this year compared to last year. Effectively a match.

cson

What is she to win this year; 11/8 I think? I don't know how you could take that price knowing her build up to the festival and not hvaing seen her in public yet this season. Voler La Vedette has to be the value bet here imo. - especially if Go Native wins earlier in the day.

Morgans

I'd definitely prefer Voler la Vedette of the two, but I do think Quevega is the one to beat. Hardly controversial. She was very very impressive last year. Had she got a prep run in, i wouldnt be as confident about VLV. Course form, proven on the big occasion etc.

However, I dont think the Go Native Down Royal formline stands up to any sort of srutiny and is completely overplayed. Go Native not nearly the same horse and eased to a walk when beaten - credit of course goes to VLV that she beat him. The biggest fear for Voler La Vedette was that she was so laboured in winning last time out. Didnt race with much vim. Still would be my choice in the race despite that. I do think its a weaker race.

Morgans

thirtypence wrote: »

lads, another question.............does anyone know of any horses that have won at checltenham, then not ran again until the following cheltenham and then won again at that festival? i.e. what quevega is attempting to do

Quevega has run twice since last year's Cheltenham.

thirtypence

Morgans wrote: »

Quevega has run twice since last year's Cheltenham.

i should have asked did she run at all in this current season? i forgot about her 2 runs after cheltenham last year but im counting that as last seasons form...would be a fair training feat to get her to cheltenham and win without a run in almost a year

mdwexford

Ah its well doable especially in a horrible race like the Mares.

Diggy78

thirtypence wrote: »

lads, another question.............does anyone know of any horses that have won at checltenham, then not ran again until the following cheltenham and then won again at that festival? i.e. what quevega is attempting to do

Racing Post doesn't seem to have kept his stats, so I cant check this quickly, but did See You Then have bad legs? Did he win back to back Champion Hurdles without running in between or am I imagining that I heard or saw that somewhere??

Morgans

He did have lots of training problems, but I think he always managed to get a prep into him.

Juwwi

a bit off topic but an interesting fact l seen the other day latabraq started favourite for his last 28 races with something like 22 of those races he was odds on fav.

cson

Just watched the David Nicholson from last year and christ that was impressive from Quevega. Anything close to that form at all and she'll piss it. Still think 11/8 is too skinny though.

RichieLawlor

Are you all forgetting that VLV missed the Irish CH due to a setback, she has hardly had an ideal prep either.

Morgans

I'm not. Willie Mullins horses that ran well/won at cheltenham last year

Cousin Vinny
Mikhael D'Haguenet
Quevega
Cooldine
Mourad

I think there is more of a leap of faith involved in backing Quevega at a shorter price. If she turns up in the same form as last year she is the only mare capable of beating a fully fit Voler La Vedette. Its a large enough "If" for me at 11/8. Of course, there is a chance that neither will run to their form, its probably why there has been ew support for Nobody tells Me.

cson

I'd disagree with Cousin Vinny in that list; he was a pretty hot favourite for the Supreme last year and ran poorly. He's gone backward a lot since imo.

Morgans

That is not an unreasonable opinion, but he ran MDH close at Punchestown after - as well as could be expected really, and looked like the winner for a while. I think if MDH wasnt in the same stable, CV would have run in the 2m5f last year. For whatever reason, probably fences, he has lost his mojo this year.

deewhy

Morgans wrote: »

I'm not. Willie Mullins horses that ran well/won at cheltenham last year

Cousin Vinny
Mikhael D'Haguenet
Quevega
Cooldine
Mourad

I think there is more of a leap of faith involved in backing Quevega at a shorter price. If she turns up in the same form as last year she is the only mare capable of beating a fully fit Voler La Vedette. Its a large enough "If" for me at 11/8. Of course, there is a chance that neither will run to their form, its probably why there has been ew support for Nobody tells Me.

Agree, would like to see Quevega win and I liked her piece of work in Leopardstown but both have had interrupted lead in's - I feel JH's other horse Zarinava is also e/way value having won well in Doncaster last time out