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paky

After PSNI officer Peadar Hefron was blown up in his car in Northern Ireland it was reported in the news that he was a Catholic. Since Northern Ireland is trying to move away from the past it still continues to report peoples religion on the news in such cases. I ask why this still continues as I believe it has no significance in the future of Northern Ireland. This is just one example, Im sure there are many more.

Iwasfrozen

paky wrote: »

After PSNI officer Peadar Hefron was blown up in his car in Northern Ireland it was reported in the news that he was a Catholic. Since Northern Ireland is trying to move away from the past it still continues to report peoples religion on the news in such cases. I ask why this still continues as I believe it has no significance in the future of Northern Ireland. This is just one example, Im sure there are many more.

Because his religion still plays an important role as to why he died. For example a prodestate is more likely to be killed by the IRA and vice versa.

Also changing the format of the press to influence peoples opinions is a very dangeroues idea.

walrusgumble

paky wrote: »

After PSNI officer Peadar Hefron was blown up in his car in Northern Ireland it was reported in the news that he was a Catholic. Since Northern Ireland is trying to move away from the past it still continues to report peoples religion on the news in such cases. I ask why this still continues as I believe it has no significance in the future of Northern Ireland. This is just one example, Im sure there are many more.

In this instance, to undermine whatever support there still is for the Rea IRA & Continuity IRA. DUP politican, Jefferey Donaldson made the point that this particular officer was an Irish speaker and member of the PSNI GAA team. Media showing that the IRA, who are suppose to "protect" its people, has no qualms killing/injuring "its own people"

Liam Byrne

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Because his religion still plays an important role as to why he died.

No it doesn't. He died because some scum decided to break the law.

I can't honestly see those who murdered him coming out and defending the Pope and condoning the latest Vatican sex scandal - and thugs who murder and maim people aren't even Christian.

I've objected to this style of reporting since I was about 16; a person died. If they didn't report which so-called "side" it was, then maybe there would be no "retaliation".

Iwasfrozen

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I can't honestly see those who murdered him coming out and defending the Pope and condoning the latest Vatican sex scandal - and thugs who murder and maim people aren't even Christian.

Of course they aren't defending the Pope, who said they were ?

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I've objected to this style of reporting since I was about 16; a person died. If they didn't report which so-called "side" it was, then maybe there would be no "retaliation".

Do you really think the IRA watch UTV news to find their info ? If you do then you are utterly naive. There would be retaliation regardless once news on the street got out that he was killed by UVF/IRA.

sceptre

Please don't engage in that pseudo-idiotic "Fixed your post" thing on this forum. This is the Politics forum, where discussion of people's views is paramount. Editing someone's post and quoting it here isn't welcome. It's funny on other forums where it's supposed to be funny. Here it's just idiotic as we're all expected to act like adults rather than skittish schoolgirls. Don't highlight the changed bit. Just don't do it at all.

edit: I've deleted the three posts by forum members discussing it since and edited the "FYP" out of the original post. See previous paragraph for why. The established practice is to send a report message to the mods and leave it at that, not start a virtual brawl. Don't act the forum police please, that's what the moderators are for.

/mod

paky

in all fairness, back a while ago if a member of the travelling community was involved in some kind of criminal act or incident the media reported ' a member of the the travelling community..did such and such'. nowadays the media cant do this...i cant see why this kind of reporting continues in ireland

Liam Byrne

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Of course they aren't defending the Pope, who said they were ?

My point is that if someone kills "because of their religion", then the inference is that it's related to the religion. They obviously aren't "defending the Pope", or even acting like Christians (or the supposed relevant subset of Catholics or Protestants).

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Do you really think the IRA watch UTV news to find their info ? If you do then you are utterly naive. There would be retaliation regardless once news on the street got out that he was killed by UVF/IRA.

Who was he killed by, BTW ? When it's a PSNI member killed, I usually get the feeling that it's nationalists killing (supposedly) "one of their own" in order to deter people from joining....I'm open to correction on this, though - it's just a feeling that I get when the phrase "Catholic PSNI member" is part of the story.

Anyways, in a way that's irrelevant, because like I said "sides" don't matter; some scummy terrorist or other murdered someone for doing their job.

Iwasfrozen

Liam Byrne wrote: »

My point is that if someone kills "because of their religion", then the inference is that it's related to the religion. They obviously aren't "defending the Pope", or even acting like Christians (or the supposed relevant subset of Catholics or Protestants).

You have to remember that this is about more then just religion, it's cultural. And has been so since the platation in Elizabethian times.

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Who was he killed by, BTW ? When it's a PSNI member killed, I usually get the feeling that it's nationalists killing (supposedly) "one of their own" in order to deter people from joining....I'm open to correction on this, though - it's just a feeling that I get when the phrase "Catholic PSNI member" is part of the story.

Actually I don't know who killed him, and I don't think they every caught the killer. I could be wrong tough as I don't tend to follow these things.

GSF

1) He is not dead.

2) He was targetted because he is a catholic as the RIRA want to discourage Catholics from serving in the PSNi.

Sand

I do disagree with the idea that he was bombed because he was a Catholic, or that this played much in his targeting (though maybe it did).

But I think it is important that it is cited that this PSNI officer was Catholic, and Irish speaker and a member of the GAA team. It undermines absolutely every point on which the Real IRA and other degenerate filth target the PSNI. If these scumbags do try to deter catholics or nationalists from joining the PSNI it is because it undermines the narrative they use to justify murdering members of the PSNI - the PSNI are some sort of garrison force full of Orange Order, papacy hating, cricket playing billy boys.

That the PSNI actually has room for gaelic speaking, GAA playing catholics probably wont have much impact on the mindsets of the scumbags who targeted him, but it will undermine the justification they present to the wider world for doing so.

As such, it is worth pointing out who they targeted and what it says about the PSNI and its membership.