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Father going into a home

  • 05-03-2010 9:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Recently my father had stroke and may not be able to drive again.He lives alone and does not want to be there and talks of going to a home. How much do homes cost for someone with a med card. Would a pension cover it?

    Has anyone got a relative in a home


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Citizens Information
    "Private nursing homes charge fees. You may get a nursing home subvention
    from the HSE towards the cost of a registered private nursing home if you
    are in need of care and you pass a means test. You or another person who
    is paying the fees may qualify for tax relief on those fees. You must apply
    for a subvention before going into the nursing home, unless there is an
    emergency. The subvention is designed to help with nursing home costs. It
    is not designed to meet the full cost. "

    Talk with your/your father's GP. He'll get you in contact with the relevant people/social workers to organise subvention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Fees will depend on the type / extent of care required and location. A freind looked at it for his mother 2 years ago and I think it was about €500+ per week, but if the cost can be spread between the person in care's assets, income, family and tax relief it becomes more manageable.

    If he has a low assets / income he will be means tested and the charge limited to about the amount of his state pension. However, if he has assets, he may have to make a large contribution himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭TonyInch


    In similar situation to OP recently my Grandmother took a more severe turn. She was being looked after at her home which she shares with one son by the family .So just the two of them live in the house. It is no longer possible to look after her at this house now due to severity of the turn. The house and farm are willed to the son who lives there and my Grandmother has her day in the house. Is the fees for the Nursing home means tested on my Grandmother s pension or my uncle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Up de Barrs


    He would be covered by the nursing home Fair Deal scheme which came into effect in October. The person going in to care contributes 80% of their income (essentially their pension) and 5% of the value of any assets (eg family home) per annum up to a maximum of 15% (ie 3 years). The State pays the balance of the cost of their care.

    This is a useful site which sets out the details

    http://www.dohc.ie/issues/fair_deal/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Citizens Information
    "Private nursing homes charge fees. You may get a nursing home subvention
    from the HSE towards the cost of a registered private nursing home if you
    are in need of care and you pass a means test. You or another person who
    is paying the fees may qualify for tax relief on those fees. You must apply
    for a subvention before going into the nursing home, unless there is an
    emergency. The subvention is designed to help with nursing home costs. It
    is not designed to meet the full cost. "

    Talk with your/your father's GP. He'll get you in contact with the relevant people/social workers to organise subvention.
    OP here. Thanks for reply. One thing i read on citizen info is that he has to be assessed to see if he needs it i.e if he can look after himself.He can to a large extent but does not want to be alone. Will his psychological state, as not wanting to be there on his own, be taken into account.

    Thanks to the other posters that replied too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭ljcoolk


    Subvention is a thing of the past, only people that were on subvention before the new fair deal scheme commenced 27/10/2009 will have the option to choose. No new applications for Subvention will be processed.

    My advice is to apply under the new scheme the fair deal, an assessment will be carried out to see if long term care is required, you can apply and no take the offer up, that way if the time comes you can take up on the offer (budget pending) and its not panic stations alert !


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