Yes!

walshb · 05-03-2010 7:20am #1

I had a sickening feeling that the system would find yet another scumbag guilty
of Manslaughter, when it so was not!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0304/corcorana.html

arybvtcw0eolkf · 05-03-2010 7:57am

Now just to rr try that little Bint who ran over and killed the elderly taxi driver in Blanch.

fuelinjection · 05-03-2010 7:59am

Gerardo Teeny Backward wrote: »

Now just to rr try that little Bint who ran over and killed the elderly taxi driver in Blanch.

That was a shock I have to say, angry, high, drunk using a car to run over someone. And then not being charged with intending to murder someone ?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 05-03-2010 8:03am

fuelinjection wrote: »

That was a shock I have to say, angry, high, drunk using a car to run over someone. And then not being charged with intending to murder someone ?

Beats the crap outta me too, but sure she probably came from a disadvantaged background, failed social system, fell through the safety nets, history of drug abuse, parents marriage failed etc, etc, e-fucking-tc.

**Edit** oh - throw's eye's to the heavens emoticon...:rolleyes:

walshb · 05-03-2010 8:05am

fuelinjection wrote: »

I am not aware of the facts why this guy was not charged with murder - according to the news last night, the manslaughter verdict was carried by a 10 to 2 jury decision so maybe the evidence was not 100%.

Am I missing something? Does the report I linked not say he was found guilty of murder?

I would really like to know who the two on that jury were who didn't accept
that this was murder. WTF?

fuelinjection · 05-03-2010 8:11am

walshb wrote: »

Am I missing something? Does the report I linked not say he was found guilty of murder?

I would really like to know who the two on that jury were who didn't accept
that this was murder. WTF?

You are right, I missed the news so was listening to the radio, must have missed the murder conviction. But as far as I remember the jury was 10 - 2, I will check it when I get the chance.

Danbo! · 05-03-2010 8:27am

walshb wrote: »

I had a sickening feeling that the system would find yet another scumbag guilty
of Manslaughter, when it so was not!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0304/corcorana.html

This whole manslaughter thing baffles me to be honest. Seems very easy to go from murder to manslaughter by saying "eh, I didnt mean to"

Gerardo Teeny Backward wrote: »

Now just to rr try that little Bint who ran over and killed the elderly taxi driver in Blanch.

Ms Nolan told gardaí: 'I didn't mean to squash him. I don't know what I meant to do. I couldn't stop, I couldn't brake and I ended up squashing the man.'

Sounds like a clear case of manslaughter alright :rolleyes:

3qsmavrod5twfe · 05-03-2010 8:56am

Stee wrote: »

This whole manslaughter thing baffles me to be honest. Seems very easy to go from murder to manslaughter by saying "eh, I didnt mean to"
:rolleyes:

Difference between manslaughter and murder is that for murder you have to prove intent - i.e. what someone was thinking at a given moment. That basically means you have to prove it was pre-planned. Heat of the moment stuff generally results in manslaughter convictions. Unless, of course, you shoot a knacker in Mayo, but that's different!

walshb · 05-03-2010 9:11am

Whatever about the official and technical differences between Manslaughter and Murder, the reality seems to be whatever Red Herring the defendant comes up with, including the lame, "I didn't mean it.":rolleyes:

pickarooney · 05-03-2010 9:20am

Celeste Rhythmic Quid wrote: »

That basically means you have to prove it was pre-planned.

As far as I know premeditation is what distinguishes first from second degree murder. Manslaughter is pretty much "I didn't mean it" while negligent manslaughter is "I didn't mean to kill him, but I wasn't really bothered".