ceiling height

mrxireland

I built my home about 8 years ago with a loan from the credit union,evrything went to plan and happy with the out come but while i was searching the net i came across a few pages that says that the min celing height in ireland is 2.4m .
I then got the tape measure out just to check my celing heights because i thoght that mine was below this , My down stairs is measuring at 2.6m but my up stairs is only measuring at 2.35m.
I can remeber that my truss ceiling height was just over 2.4m but when i put in my chipboard floor,wooden floor on top , plaster board and skim then this takes me below the min regs for ceiling height .

Can anyone advise me on this matter ,im now worried that a future buyers mortage company wont approve this when i go to sell.
I have been having sleeples nights because of this for the last few weeks .would i have to change the celings to the 2.4 height before i can sell my home.
Is the 2.4 min celing height for saftey reasons .
It would be great if you could put my mind at ease

mfceiling

mrxireland wrote: »

I built my home about 8 years ago with a loan from the credit union,evrything went to plan and happy with the out come but while i was searching the net i came across a few pages that says that the min celing height in ireland is 2.4m .
I then got the tape measure out just to check my celing heights because i thoght that mine was below this , My down stairs is measuring at 2.6m but my up stairs is only measuring at 2.35m.
I can remeber that my truss ceiling height was just over 2.4m but when i put in my chipboard floor,wooden floor on top , plaster board and skim then this takes me below the min regs for ceiling height .

Can anyone advise me on this matter ,im now worried that a future buyers mortage company wont approve this when i go to sell.
I have been having sleeples nights because of this for the last few weeks .would i have to change the celings to the 2.4 height before i can sell my home.
Is the 2.4 min celing height for saftey reasons .
It would be great if you could put my mind at ease

I'm fairly sure you are ok for upstairs.....some types of roof construction/house designs don't allow for 2.4 metres on an upstairs room....maybe the mods or someone else can give you a definitive answer.

Poor Uncle Tom

The minimum height of a habitable room is 2.4m
http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad,1647,en.pdf
as taken from page 11 here.

It should be noted that the TGD's are Guidance Documents, ie., suggestion rather than regulation. But, it is good practice to use these Guidance Documents as minimum design standards.

It is unfortunate that the finished floor to ceiling height is less than the minimum stated and it is easy to see how it happened.

mrxireland

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

The minimum height of a habitable room is 2.4m
http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad,1647,en.pdf
as taken from page 11 here.

It should be noted that the TGD's are Guidance Documents, ie., suggestion rather than regulation. But, it is good practice to use these Guidance Documents as minimum design standards.

It is unfortunate that the finished floor to ceiling height is less than the minimum stated and it is easy to see how it happened.

would you say im ok then

Poor Uncle Tom

Personally, I would have serious reservations about releasing a Certificate of Compliance for a new build where the first floor, floor to ceiling height is below 2.4m.

I can see how it happened, and 50mm isn't a huge shortfall, but the point is that it is is below the 2.4m.

onq

Cannot be enforced.
Suggested Heights are not fixed
Plus its eight years old.

ONQ.

DOCARCH

Do you have a certificate/opinion on compliance mrxireland?

If you do - all should be o.k.

If you don't and when you do come to sell or if you want to sell, it could be difficult to get a third party to certify compliance (the certifier may not wish to take the risk?).

I have come across development houses with floor to ceiling heights of less than 2.4m and as far as I know there has been no issue selling, but they would have had 'blanket' opinions on compliance from devlopment architect's/engineers.

Poor Uncle Tom

onq wrote: »

Cannot be enforced.

Not the issue here.

onq wrote: »

Suggested Heights are not fixed

Already stated above.

onq wrote: »

Plus its eight years old.

Already stated above.

Poor Uncle Tom

DOCARCH wrote: »

Do you have a certificate/opinion on compliance mrxireland?

If you do - all should be o.k.

If you don't and when you do come to sell or if you want to sell, it could be difficult to get a third party to certify compliance (the certifier may not wish to take the risk?).

I have come across development houses with floor to ceiling heights of less than 2.4m and as far as I know there has been no issue selling, but they would have had 'blanket' opinions on compliance from devlopment architect's/engineers.

This is what it boils down to basically.

muffler

mrxireland wrote: »

I have been having sleeples nights because of this for the last few weeks .would i have to change the celings to the 2.4 height before i can sell my home.
Is the 2.4 min celing height for saftey reasons .
It would be great if you could put my mind at ease

Im certainly not suggesting that you ignore it but honestly there is absolutely no need to loose sleep over it. Its a minor issue but no more than that.

As stated above the floor to ceiling height is a "suggested" 2.40m and this can be lumped in with other such suggestions which can put in a can and labeled "best practice"

Worse case scenario is that your Certificate of Compliance may have to be qualified by the inclusion of a reference to the height but personally I cant see this being a problem. You should have a Cert. of Compliance by now if the works are complete or alternatively you will have to get it at some stage and depending on who provides it there will be nothing much in it to be alarmed at.

Sleep easy

gman2k

I done a snag list on a house in Kildare, part of an exclusive development designed by one of the biggest practices in Dublin, with a value of c. €2.6m.
Floor to ceiling level in attic space rooms was under the magic 2.4m, and also the floor to ceiling width ratio in attic rooms did not comply either.
Now, the guy I was doing the snag list for wanted the house, and all he wanted was a little bargaining power with the seller (developer) because of this issue. He had no intention of walking away because the ceiling was 50mm too low in a couple of bedrooms.
So the certifying architects stated that they were in substantial compliance with the building regs, and were happy to stand over this.
There were many other issues with non compliance with regs in the rest of the house, part L, B, M, F etc - but sure if no-one is checking eh??? (i.e. Building Control from Local 'Authority')

onq

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Poor Uncle Tom

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ninjaBob

I'd be interested to know more about this, the ceilings in my house were meant to be 2.44 high, but have turned out to be between 2.28 -> 2.4.

I was just wondering what impact this would have on the house (ventilation, heating, moisture etc).

Cheers

gman2k

ninjaBob wrote: »

I'd be interested to know more about this, the ceilings in my house were meant to be 2.44 high, but have turned out to be between 2.28 -> 2.4.

I was just wondering what impact this would have on the house (ventilation, heating, moisture etc).

Cheers

There will be no negative impact by the quoted height difference, in fact the lower the ceiling, the easier it is to warm a room (less air volume to heat)