Taxing car in the UK.

Nozebleed

Hi. A friend of mine was telling me about polish guy he works with who flew over to the UK (birmingham €20 Ryanair!) and taxed his car in the UK using a birmingham address(a friend of his)..and apparently the tax was approx €500 cheaper than it would have been if he taxed it here(car is a BMW tax here is 1200). Is it the case that this car is legally taxed on the roads in Ireland?

biko

It sounds odd. Is he driving a UK regged car?

Mr Benevolent

Nozebleed wrote: »

Is it the case that this car is legally taxed on the roads in Ireland?

No. That's tax evasion.

Anan1

Road tax is payable in the country in which the car is registered, and ROI residents may not use non-ROI registered cars here.

_Kaiser_

Anan1 wrote: »

Road tax is payable in the country in which the car is registered, and ROI residents may not use non-ROI registered cars here.

I heard about that being tightened up - has it come into effect yet?

rugbyman

Nozebleed wrote: »

Hi. A friend of mine was telling me about polish guy he works with who flew over to the UK (birmingham €20 Ryanair!) and taxed his car in the UK using a birmingham address(a friend of his)..and apparently the tax was approx €500 cheaper than it would have been if he taxed it here(car is a BMW tax here is 1200). Is it the case that this car is legally taxed on the roads in Ireland?

the answer to your question is that a car taxed in any EC country can use the roads of Ireland.

This has been stated on here a few weeks ago, and some said that if the car had no tax from its country it could not drive here. this is not true as in france there is no road tax.

If the polish man is living in Ireland for over six months he should re register his car here, for free probably, but it is relatively easy enough to avoid this ,if one is foreign.
there are circumstances where one can be resident in this country for longer than six months but still be deemed temporary , depending on the employment , domicile etc.

rugbyman

Nozebleed

thanks for the replies...just for the record ..the guy is living here a few years,the car is registered in ireland,bought here second hand(no foregin plate),he's driving on a polish licence and he's employed. im amazed how he can he get away with it..

Gran Hermano

An Irish registered car with UK tax, doesn't sound right.
Is your friend's name Prawo Jazdy?

motorimporter

Hi. A friend of mine was telling me about polish guy he works with who flew over to the UK (birmingham €20 Ryanair!) and taxed his car in the UK using a birmingham address(a friend of his)..and apparently the tax was approx €500 cheaper than it would have been if he taxed it here(car is a BMW tax here is 1200). Is it the case that this car is legally taxed on the roads in Ireland?

Utter rubbish.

To tax a car in the UK you must have both of these.

1) V5 (uk logbook)
2) Current uk insurance

So given its an Irish reg car, how would he have a V5 document

Secondly, if the objective is to save money, why would he be paying insurance in the uk and here in Ireland.

Unless there are counterfeit documents involved (surely not worth the risk just to save a few hundred euro), then it is simply not possible.

I guess the moral of the story is dont believe everything you hear

Guy:Incognito

Are we not working on the assumption its a UK reg? Obviously an Irish reg couldnt be taxed in the UK.

motorimporter

thanks for the replies...just for the record ..the guy is living here a few years,the car is registered in ireland,bought here second hand(no foregin plate),he's driving on a polish licence and he's employed. im amazed how he can he get away with it..

OP said the car is registered in Ireland

Nozebleed

could he not register the car in britain with irish plates and then get it taxed over there? and he's using his friends address in britain for the paper work? but he simply drives the car over here legally.

motorimporter

How can he register a car in UK with Irish plates He would need to get UK plates once registered in UK.

You clearly stated it was an Irish reg car.

The answer to your original post is, that its just not possible.......legally

Guy:Incognito

motorimporter wrote: »

OP said the car is registered in Ireland

Ah , missed that.

Yeah, it's bull.

motorimporter

Ah , missed that.

Not to worry

Yeah, it's bull.

Sure is :rolleyes:

LookBehindYou

Nozebleed wrote: »

could he not register the car in britain with irish plates and then get it taxed over there? and he's using his friends address in britain for the paper work? but he simply drives the car over here legally.

Not legal.

If registering a car from Ireland republic in the uk, it would need an MOT, insurance.and then tax.
That would make it legal in the uk.

The customs and gardai are not that stupid, they know all the scams.
Confiscation of car would be costly.
Get involved in an accident, then there are problems.

If it was that easy to do, everyone would be doing it.

Nozebleed

maybe he changed his plates(he did have irish plates). i dont know exactly..i've no idea how it works to be honest. So if he changed his plates to british he could drive legally on our roads providing he's insured to drive on our roads.

motorimporter

Right, so he has to drive the car to the uk via ferry, to reregister it on UK plates, he then has to take it for an MOT test, he can then drive the car back to Ireland. Approx cost of €500, + 2 days work.

Once he has the UK cert for the car, he can then fly by €20 flight to birmingham, present all his documents and pay for the road tax, then fly back to Ireland.

He will be driving a UK registered car, will have UK insurance, but will be living in Ireland.

If the guards stop him, they have the power to sieze his car if they are satisfied he is an Irish resident, as he is defrauding the revenue by not paying the vrt on his car. He will only get his car back if either he can prove without doubt that he is not a resident in ireland (ie UK payslips or dole receipt) or he will have to pay the vrt - simple as that.

Do you really think all of that is worth it to save €700

Dream on.


Sounds like a case of bad chinese whispers here


As I said in my first reply, utter rubbish.

BTW, it kind of seems like this is your car we are talking about, and your trying to see is there a cheaper way around taxing it - maybe I'm wrong

Guy:Incognito

Nozebleed wrote: »

he could drive legally on our roads .

Not if he's an Irish resident he can't

Nozebleed

motorimporter wrote: »

BTW, it kind of seems like this is your car we are talking about, and your trying to see is there a cheaper way around taxing it - maybe I'm wrong

ehh, no...but thanks for accusing me of attempted fraud. nice one.

motorimporter

Didnt mean any offence, just seemed like you were sounding out the idea

And I did say that maybe I was wrong.

Perhaps if you'd have thought out your original post a little more you'd have realised just how ridiculous a concept it was

Nozebleed

no offence taken..no its not me in question...i just heard this today through a friend. i dont understand how these things work as a whole. thought it was interesting though..i also thought it was wrong/illegal and i was just going to relay the information back where it came from.
thanks for the replies.

paddy147

And you can only pay tax on the car in the county you reside in.

Example......a person living in County dublin,cannot tax a car in County Wicklow.It must be taxed in a tax office in County Dublin.

corktina

my guess the car is Northern Reg and the guy doesnt know the difference....he will when the Cuistoms catch up with him...