A Doctor, a Mutation and a Potential Cure for AIDS

shqipshume

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-368492/Miracle-HIV-recovery-man-cure.html
Medics today urged a patient to come forward for more tests after he apparently shook off the killer HIV virus.
Scotsman Andrew Stimpson, 25, was diagnosed as being HIV-positive in August 2002, but 14 months later blood tests gave him the all-clear.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122602394113507555.html

The startling case of an AIDS patient who underwent a bone marrow transplant to treat leukemia is stirring new hope that gene-therapy strategies on the far edges of AIDS research might someday cure the disease.
The patient, a 42-year-old American living in Berlin, is still recovering from his leukemia therapy, but he appears to have won his battle with AIDS. Doctors have not been able to detect the virus in his blood for more than 600 days, despite his having ceased all conventional AIDS medication. Normally when a patient stops taking AIDS drugs, the virus stampedes through the body within weeks, or days.


Some say never is it possible its already known and been kept secret :mad::eek:

TheZohanS

That's 5 threads you're after starting in After Hours today without adding your own opinion, don't start another today.

WindSock

Yeah we want the weather, not the news.

hooradiation

so.....false positives eh?

shqipshume

hooradiation wrote: »

so.....false positives eh?

Who knows.I heard about the guy in Scotland a few years back and havent heard anything since.Cant find anything to back it up!
But wouldnt it be something to know they have it the cure and with holding it right now.
The power of how many people would be in their hands.Would they give it free?

Mr. Incognito

Lukemia cures Aids.

Great.

hooradiation

shqipshume wrote: »

Who knows.I heard about the guy in Scotland a few years back and havent heard anything since.Cant find anything to back it up!
But wouldnt it be something to know they have it the cure and with holding it right now.
The power of how many people would be in their hands.Would they give it free?

If the guy in Scotland is anything more than a false positive i will eat my own cock.

And if it turns out he's actually some kind of special miracle child and he's trying to horde this because he wants to turn a quick buck then fuck him and i hope he gets super-aids of the face.

shqipshume

hooradiation wrote: »

If the guy in Scotland is anything more than a false positive i will eat my own cock.

And if it turns out he's actually some kind of special miracle child and he's trying to horde this because he wants to turn a quick buck then fuck him and i hope he gets super-aids of the face.

This some more about the guy in germany.the physicians gave him a bone marrow transplant from a person with natural immunity to HIV ? People who are immune to it also? I have heard of babies been born without it when the mother or father have it but natural immunity:eek:


Last month, German doctors reported that they had cured a 42-year-old of acquired immune deficiency syndrome, or AIDS. The patient, an American living in Berlin, also had leukemia, which is best treated by a bone marrow transplant. Thinking they might be able to cure the man of both diseases, the physicians gave him a bone marrow transplant from a person with natural immunity to HIV. The patient has now lived for 20 months since the transplant without any detectable traces of HIV.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/132116.php

Mr. Incognito

a person with natural immunity to HIV ?

That is a lazy stupid ass journo typo.

EDIT- Just found out it's in the Daily Mail- no wonder. Those idiots couldn't even spell AIDS never mind report accurately on it.


If we found someone with a natural immunity we would be able to synticise a cure.

Babies born to women with HIV AIDs are given a course of anti virals when they are born, as there is no transfer of blood from the mother to the child in the womb it's possible for the child not to pick up the virus.

shqipshume

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

That is a lazy stupid ass journo typo.

If we found someone with a natural immunity we would be able to synticise a cure.

That confused me a bit,How would it be possible to have naturally immune people exactly and not find a cure. Thats what it says more research needed.

http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA04/natural_immunity_HIV.php
A group of researchers from England, Gambia and Japan collaborated in the study of 20 female prostitutes in The Gambia, West Africa, who were persistently free of signs of HIV infection in spite of being exposed to the virus at least once per week for as long as five years. The women rarely utilized condoms with clients and had a high incidence of other sexually transmitted diseases. Thirty-five percent of prostitutes in the Gambia are HIV positive.
http://darwinslegacy.blogspot.com/2007/12/natural-immunity-to-hiv.html
Since the outbreak of HIV, there have been the occasional noted case where an individual after repeated exposure to HIV did not acquire the infection. This is more than simply good luck. Researchers have been gathering evidence to explain this percieved natural immunity to HIV. This understanding will drastically improve the accuracy and effectiveness of treatment by individualizing drug regime and therapies. And of course hopefully lead to

dr.bollocko

http://www.dailymai...
That's as far as I got.

Mr. Incognito

To date no-one has been found to have immunity from HIV / AIDs,

We can slow it's progression with cocktails of three different anti viral drugs but no cure on the horizon yet.

mikom

shqipshume wrote: »

Medics today urged a patient to come forward for more tests after he apparently shook off the killer HIV virus.
Scotsman Andrew Stimpson, 25, was diagnosed as being HIV-positive in August 2002, but 14 months later blood tests gave him the all-clear.

Great......... so still no cure for cat aids?

AnonoBoy

mikom wrote: »

Great......... so still no cure for cat aids?

Or Face AIDS.

bazmaiden

I'm sure he's still positive

super_furry

November 2005.

Pdfile

bazmaiden wrote: »

I'm sure he's still positive

the whole experience is a big plus for his character imho

IvySlayer

Maybe the treatment for leukemia killed of the HIV virus is his body? How unlucky must you be to get cancer and HIV.

argonaut

I thought it was a cancer cure that the Mail had a perpetual hard-on for, but apparently they're obsessed with AIDS, too.

smegmar

Researchers discovered that some gay men astonishingly remained uninfected despite engaging in very risky sex with as many as hundreds of partners. These men had inherited a mutation from both their parents that made them virtually immune to HIV.

ah gay men, you're wild sexual promiscuity may just have saved us all. who would have thought it.

genericguy

Mr. Incognito,

natural immunity to HIV here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5

I usually deal only in peer-reviewed references, but i've had a fcuk of a day in work and i ain't readin' no more real science tonight. it's more or less covered in that wiki article, basically a certain protein found on the surface of white blood cells is used by the gay-plague to get into cells, but if mutated (as it is in some people) the virus can't 'fit' into its entrance to the cell.

IvySlayer wrote: »

Maybe the treatment for leukemia killed of the HIV virus is his body? How unlucky must you be to get cancer and HIV.

the treatment for leukaemia would have obliterated his white blood cells, which is where the HIV virus lives/hides in your body, thereby ridding him of the virus, and te bone-marrow transplant would have filled him up so to speak with new blood-progenitor cells, which are stem cells which go on to become clean new white blood cells. i always thought of this as a potential treatment, but it's so risky and difficult to find accurate matches that nobody would really bother. in this case the lad would have been near death from leukaemia anyway so would have been worth the gamble to keep him alive.

cell biology is amazing. absolutely amazing.

Pompey Magnus

Thread title disappoints, I was hoping for a hilarious "...walk into a bar" joke .

aDeener

bazmaiden wrote: »

I'm sure he's still positive

I'm not just sure, I'm HIV positive

opinion guy

Ah yes, that most esteemed respected of medical journals The Daily Mail.
Impact Factor -500

:rolleyes:

Incidentally what ever happened to patient confidentiality ?

genericguy

opinion guy wrote: »

Ah yes, that most esteemed respected of medical journals The Daily Mail.
Impact Factor -500

:rolleyes:

Incidentally what ever happened to patient confidentiality ?

the mail is second only to "my friend's neighbour's aunty's sister's teacher's nephew" in the list of reliable sources. and there's me aiming to get my work into nature, pfft.

opinion guy

genericguy wrote: »

the mail is second only to "my friend's neighbour's aunty's sister's teacher's nephew" in the list of reliable sources. and there's me aiming to get my work into nature, pfft.

I think its actually statistically more likely to be true if you make it up yourself rather than read it in the Daily Mail

donvito99

A Doctor, a Mutation and a Potential Cure for AIDS

...and yore........

tony 2 tone

shqipshume wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-368492/Miracle-HIV-recovery-man-cure.html
Medics today urged a patient to come forward for more tests after he apparently shook off the killer HIV virus.
Scotsman Andrew Stimpson, 25, was diagnosed as being HIV-positive in August 2002, but 14 months later blood tests gave him the all-clear.

Scotsman? That explains a lot, probably had a vindaloo, maybe a deep fried mars bar, washed down with a bottle of Buckfast and sweated it out :P

WalterMitty

Hope he didnt top himself in depressed desperation :eek:

Terry

Dollars in a blender. Inject into vein. AIDS cured.

TV doesn't lie.

m@cc@

Well, it's in the Daily Mail and according to them, foreigners invented AIDS anyway. So it's only right they find a cure.

ddef

i am pretty sure it is possible to have a natural immunity against HIV. its all about genetics ( i think ). it differenciates us, that is why when the flu came along it didnt wipe out the entire human population, it is also the reason why that stuff like fairy liquid kills 99.9% bacteria, because some have an immunity to it and then they reproduce.
if we were all injected with AIDS infected blood, we wouldn't all develop it.

RepublicanEagle

I'm still positive that he is still positive.

rgt320q

Geez guys, quit being so HIV negative all the time :rolleyes:



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