ME anger at Israeli 'escalations'

shqipshume

(ME) anger at Israeli 'escalations'


Clashes between Israeli police and Palestinian protestors over the issue of holy sites have provoked a wave of condemnation in the Arab press for Israel's behaviour.
On Sunday several Palestinians were arrested after Israeli security forces entered one of Islam's holiest sites, the al-Aqsa mosque in East Jerusalem. The incident followed clashes in the West Bank town of Hebron on Friday over Israel's decision to list two disputed shrines as heritage sites.

Kiera

Are you trying to replace Outlawpete?

Biggins

The words "here we go again" spring to mind with these two sides.
Sometimes I think they just look for excuses to have a go now at one another.

If they spent as much energy talking as than fighting, they would get further along in peace.
Ironic when you consider what they are disputing over!

shqipshume

Kiera wrote: »

Are you trying to replace Outlawpete?

hahaha why ?

Kiera

shqipshume wrote: »

hahaha why ?

To see how many threads you can start in AH in one day.

wes

Well, Israel did just annex chunks of the West Bank, in violation of International law. So, seeing as this a conflict over land, stealing more of it, is clearly an escalation.

Of course, Zionists think God gave them the land, or because some of there ancestors lived there 2000 years ago, they can claim it all. So, I can't say I am surprised that lunatics are making the conflict worse.

shqipshume

Biggins wrote: »

The words "here we go again" spring to mind with these two sides.
Sometimes I think they just look for excuses to have a go now at one another.

Biggins i am actually slagging ME,i know its not meant to be proper English but a thought it was funny

Biggins

shqipshume wrote: »

Biggins i am actually slagging ME,i know its not meant to be proper English but a thought it was funny

Sorry, this old foggie missed the joke - probably through daftness.

biko

shqipshume wrote: »

Biggins i am actually slagging ME

I think he was slagging you too





badumtisch

Biggins

Magnus wrote: »

I think he was slagging you too

He's been talking to my ex-wife then.

shqipshume

Kiera wrote: »

To see how many threads you can start in AH in one day.

Oh he does that dont give me away

meditraitor

Can someone explain the joke to ME?

shqipshume

Magnus wrote: »

I think he was slagging you too





badumtisch

Nah he is a gent :cool:

shqipshume

Personally all jokes aside they are as bad as eachother and if they cant run the countries in peace and come to some comprimise.I.e stay on their respective sides.Not that will happen ever.As far as i can see there is no reasoning with people who fight for religious reasons.

biko

Israel is in conflict with itself, the more hardcore ultra-orthodox Jews regularly clash with Israeli police about all kinds of things and the "normal" population couldn't care less about many aspects of the Palestinian conflict, besides the risk of getting hurt of course.
I'm fairly certain this is what it's like on the other side of the Wall too.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Magnus wrote: »

Israel is in conflict with itself, the more hardcore ultra-orthodox Jews regularly clash with Israeli police about all kinds of things and the "normal" population couldn't care less about many aspects of the Palestinian conflict, besides the risk of getting hurt of course.
I'm fairly certain this is what it's like on the other side of the Wall too.

Hitting the nail right on its head.

The Saint

I think it is pretty undesputable that the Israeli govenment have been taking actions in recent times that are causing greater tensions that could easily lead to an excalation.

FlutterinBantam

Is it?

I don't think so.

Idealists and kerb painters will always drag the coat tail in front those whom they perceive to be the aggressor.

In reality all they want is trouble and wouldn't probably know how to handle peace if the stopped the aggression.

Base their strategy on well fed fools in lands far away actually championing their cause without any thought about the actualities on the ground.

Takes two to spike up a row people.:cool:

smegmar

so basically one day a guy was talking to his invisible friend. his invisible friend told him that there is land that is really good and he should live there, irregardless of the current occupancy. So this guy told his friends and they all thought it was a good idea. With excessive military assistance from america and no legal right they took and held this land the invisible man spoke about, for the last 60 years, shamelessly dispossessing the locals and treating them as inferior, because their invisible man was a different invisible man to one previously mentioned. Now when the dislocated second group of people get a bit miffed about the whole story so far, it makes news headlines for us all to see how horrible they are, to justify all the friendly shrapnel munitions sent at their peasant villages every so often.


so that's kinda what's going on in Palestine/Israel for all those who didn't really understand

FlutterinBantam

Nah.. a persecuted people set up home in their ancestral homeland, and a bunch of wasters adjoining, seeing how well their work ethic and education and husbandry was going tried to get in on the action and kept making spurious claims of 'occupation' and lobbing missiles into their territory.


that about sums it up.

Nodin

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Nah(.......) kept making spurious claims of 'occupation' and lobbing missiles into their territory.


that about sums it up.

Well done. You've reached new depths of flame-baiting ignorance. Considering your previous record, that takes some doing,

However, do be as good as to explain exactly what you mean by "spurious claims of 'occupation'". Don't do what you usually do and run off now...try answering the question.

The Saint

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Is it?

I don't think so.

Idealists and kerb painters will always drag the coat tail in front those whom they perceive to be the aggressor.

In reality all they want is trouble and wouldn't probably know how to handle peace if the stopped the aggression.

Base their strategy on well fed fools in lands far away actually championing their cause without any thought about the actualities on the ground.

Takes two to spike up a row people.:cool:

Yes it is.

And even though I know you only come onto these threads to try to wind people up and have no intention of engaging in any sort of serious debate I'll just list a few things off the top of my head.

1) Declaring West Bank holy sites in Bethlehem and Hebron as Israeli national heritage.
2) Continued house demolitions and issuing of demolition orders for Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem and Area C of the West Bank.
3) Evictions of Palestinians from homes in East Jerusalem and moving Israeli settlers into them.
4) Continued settlement activity in the West bank despite the "settlement freeze".
5) Continued settlement activity in East Jerusalam.
6) The confiscation of Palestinian land in East Jerusalem to build a car park for Jewish worshipers visiting a tomb while not even planning to compensate the owner of the land.
7) Invading Shu'fat refugee camp in East Jerusalem (part of the Jerusalem munisipality) in a "tax raid" when they are cut off from East Jerusalem by the Wall and recieve no municipal services from the city.
8) Allowing the building by the Weisenthal Centre of a "Museum of Tolerance" on an ancient Muslim cemetary in West Jerusalem.
9) Plans to continue construction of the Wall around Jerusalem.
10) Restricting access to humanitarian agencies in the West Bank, including the UN.

And please stop with this kerb painter crap.

Nodin

Magnus wrote: »

Israel is in conflict with itself, the more hardcore ultra-orthodox Jews regularly clash with Israeli police about all kinds of things and the "normal" population couldn't care less about many aspects of the Palestinian conflict, besides the risk of getting hurt of course.
I'm fairly certain this is what it's like on the other side of the Wall too.

As this places occupied territory, outside Israels recognised borders, on an "Israeli heritage" list, it annoys rather more than some religous extremists.

wes

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Nah.. a persecuted people set up home in their ancestral homeland, and a bunch of wasters adjoining, seeing how well their work ethic and education and husbandry was going tried to get in on the action and kept making spurious claims of 'occupation' and lobbing missiles into their territory.


that about sums it up.

Well, genetics show that Palestinians are the indigenous population, in fact descended from Jews, as well as Romans, Arabs and whoever conquered lived there. Now, the version of event you show up, doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and has been shown to be false decades ago. At this point, the above version of event is simple denialism, as everything I have (and others have said) has been shown to be true in several threads that you have posted in.

Now, I know you don't actually want to discuss anything, as you always ignore all inconvenient questions posed to you, including the simple questions I asked you in the last thread. As I said in the last thread, you do you argument more damange than anyone else by not bothering to answer simple questions.

dvpower

The Saint wrote: »

I think it is pretty undesputable that the Israeli govenment have been taking actions in recent times that are causing greater tensions that could easily lead to an excalation.

John Ging, the head of UNRWA in the Gaza strip was on Newstalk over the weekend saying exactly this.

The Saint

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Is it?

I don't think so.

And just from today:

Jerusalem mayor to retroactively legalize East Jerusalem buildings