Claiming Unemployment Benefit - Moving abroad?

Cupart

After 10 years of working my back-side off in Ireland (high end qualified paid jobs) it's time for me to move back to mainland Europe and am moving to France as my spouse got a job there.

I have in all this time paid my PRSI and PAYE (41% bracket) and never claimed anything except 2 dental visits which was part covered by the PRSI.

I want some of my hard earned cash back and was wondering if I could claim unemployment for a couple of months while in Paris to begin with? If so how and what do I need to do?

As I'll be leaving in at the end of April I know that I'll get some Tax money back which is great, how much I'm still to see.

I'm sticking to the law, so no funny business ideas are welcome

Head The Wall

Cupart wrote: »

After 10 years of working my back-side off in Ireland (high end qualified paid jobs) it's time for me to move back to mainland Europe and am moving to France as my spouse got a job there.

I have in all this time paid my PRSI and PAYE (41% bracket) and never claimed anything except 2 dental visits which was part covered by the PRSI.

I want some of my hard earned cash back and was wondering if I could claim unemployment for a couple of months while in Paris to begin with? If so how and what do I need to do?

As I'll be leaving in at the end of April I know that I'll get some Tax money back which is great, how much I'm still to see.

I'm sticking to the law, so no funny business ideas are welcome

No you won't be

If you don't use your car insurance can you claim it back? No

You can claim your tax back but you can't get dole if you are not living here. Not to mention the fact that it will take weeks to get processed and now you have to physically go in and sign to prevent this type of fraud.

You must also never have used the roads, footpaths, street lighting and the many other services your taxes pay for either

passive

Head The Wall wrote: »

No you won't be

If you don't use your car insurance can you claim it back? No

You can claim your tax back but you can't get dole if you are not living here. Not to mention the fact that it will take weeks to get processed and now you have to physically go in and sign to prevent this type of fraud.

You must also never have used the roads, footpaths, street lighting and the many other services your taxes pay for either

I think he means is he entitled to French SW in France until he starts working? I don't have the answer, and don't entirely agree with his mindset, but I think you've taken this up in slightly the wrong way... There is some relationship in PRSI stamps and stuff around Europe, right?

Funkfield

Cupart wrote: »

After 10 years of working my back-side off in Ireland (high end qualified paid jobs) it's time for me to move back to mainland Europe and am moving to France as my spouse got a job there.

I have in all this time paid my PRSI and PAYE (41% bracket) and never claimed anything except 2 dental visits which was part covered by the PRSI.

I want some of my hard earned cash back and was wondering if I could claim unemployment for a couple of months while in Paris to begin with? If so how and what do I need to do?

As I'll be leaving in at the end of April I know that I'll get some Tax money back which is great, how much I'm still to see.

I'm sticking to the law, so no funny business ideas are welcome

You can transfer you Irish Jobseekers to France so long as you have been on the payment for about 4 weeks here first. You get an E303 form from the office you signed on with and bring that to your local office in France. You can receive the payment for 13 weeks abroad. (EU/EEA countris only)

Max Power1

Head The Wall wrote: »

No you won't be

If you don't use your car insurance can you claim it back? No

You can claim your tax back but you can't get dole if you are not living here. Not to mention the fact that it will take weeks to get processed and now you have to physically go in and sign to prevent this type of fraud.

You must also never have used the roads, footpaths, street lighting and the many other services your taxes pay for either

Yes. You can. You are entitled to move abroad for 3 months to any EU country and claim irish JB/JSA

Annasopra

Are you resigning your job? this would mean you would have to wait 9 weeks wouldn't it

Wile E. Coyote

You might be able to get some helpful info here.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare

Not sure of the in's and out's of exactly what your entitled to but I'm sure you have to be entitled to something.

Cupart

Funkfield wrote: »

You can transfer you Irish Jobseekers to France so long as you have been on the payment for about 4 weeks here first. You get an E303 form from the office you signed on with and bring that to your local office in France. You can receive the payment for 13 weeks abroad. (EU/EEA countris only)

That's good to know. I have been working nonstop for almost 10 years in the country so I should be good Where do I get the E303? Is this at the unemployment office? Can I do this before I actually leave (I'm leaving the following day after my last working day) of course to have the form predated?

Johnnymcg wrote: »

Are you resigning your job? this would mean you would have to wait 9 weeks wouldn't it

I am resigning my current position which means I'm leaving the country the day (on a Saturday) after I actually have left my job...

Max Power1 wrote: »

Yes. You can. You are entitled to move abroad for 3 months to any EU country and claim irish JB/JSA

Do I then claim in Ireland (or rather thought Ireland) and is this also done thought the unemployment office in the Republic? Do I have to wait 4 weeks then?

Thanks for all your replies. I had no idea and honestly didn't know where to start looking for answers. So far brilliant help

Balagan

If you read the following, you'll note that you need to be in receipt of Jobseekers Benefit for at least 4 weeks here in Ireland before that payment can be transferred abroad for max of 13 weeks. Plus it would take a couple of weeks to have your claim processed here. So, you'd possibly be looking at remaining in Ireland for two to three months.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/jb_jobseekben.aspx#part10
(c) Transfer of Benefit - Article 69

Under this Article a person who has been in receipt of JB in one of the European countries for at least 4 weeks, may transfer this benefit to one of the other European countries for a maximum of 13 weeks,(78 days) provided the person is seeking employment in that country. The person registers as unemployed in the country to which s/he travels, and the local social services office pays the benefit, subsequently recouping it from the home country.
(d) Outgoing cases from Ireland

A person in receipt of Irish JB may transfer the JB claim to one of the European countries for up to 13 weeks (78 days). The form E303 must be completed by the local office with details of rates of payment etc. The claimant takes this form to the social services office of the country to which they are travelling.

EU Records section should be contacted for further details of the procedures to be followed in such cases.

Funkfield

It could be all for nowt though. If you're leaving straight after you finish work. You have to be signed on for 4 weeks before you transfer abroad.

Cupart

Funkfield wrote: »

You have to be signed on for 4 weeks before you transfer abroad.

Have never signed on in my life before so what does this exactly mean? That I have to physically turn up at the office every week or?

Thanks

Funkfield

You'll just need to make the claim in your local office.

Signing arrangments are different depending on the office.

To clarify, you're claim would need to be in payment for 4 weeks before you could transfer it abroad.

Funkfield

Sorry

Head The Wall

You also need to be out of work for a few weeks before you can sign on if you have not been let go. I think it's six weeks

Cupart

Thanks for all your replies guys. Highly appreciated...

joe9joe9

But surely this is no good to you?

If you resign your job then you have to wait nine weeks to be entitled to any social welfare payment.
You then have to be recieving social welfare payment for four weeks before it can be transferred abroad.

So you would have to wait thirteen weeks from when you finish work until you would be entitled to any social welfare payment abroad....

Balagan

But the reason for going to France is to be with his/
her spouse who has secured work there. Would that not be an acceptable reason for leaving a job?

joe9joe9

maybe I am wrong but I dont think so.
He would be leaving the position as his own decision so I believe he would have to wait the 9 week period. Everyone could have a good excuse for leaving a position but I think its just as simple as whether you resigned or were laid off/sacked,etc.

Can anybody clarify?

Head The Wall

joe9joe9 wrote: »

maybe I am wrong but I dont think so.
He would be leaving the position as his own decision so I believe he would have to wait the 9 week period. Everyone could have a good excuse for leaving a position but I think its just as simple as whether you resigned or were laid off/sacked,etc.

Can anybody clarify?

From www.citizensinformation.ie

If you leave work voluntarily or as a result of misconduct you cannot get a jobseeker’s payment for 9 weeks. However, if you have ‘good cause’ to leave voluntarily, for example, any changes in working conditions such as a reduction in pay, harassment or abuse from your employer, you may get your payment. The Deciding Officer in your Social Welfare Local Office will decide if you had good cause to leave voluntarily.


http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/unemployed-people/signing-on