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OOH Bus Lanes and Parking!

  • 27-02-2010 10:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭


    Nothing shocking here, I'm just referring to Out Of Hour bus lanes. Does anyone know the legislation surrounding these with regards to parking? I see some bus lanes have double yellow lines at the curb, fair enough, no parking there, but what about the bus lanes that don't? If the bus lane is out of hours, is it ok to park here?

    Take this one for example, bus lanes on both sides of the road, one has double yellow lines, the other doesn't:

    20702600.jpg


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Some are 24/7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Yup, but I'm just referring to out of hours bus lanes and the bus lanes in the above example aren't 24/7 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Check the signage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Is it governed by the no parking where there is a continuous white line rule?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,729 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Hagar wrote: »
    Is it governed by the no parking where there is a continuous white line rule?

    Yes I believe this to be the case.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    I don't think that its treated as a continuous white line though cause you are allowed to change lanes from it to the outer lane to turn right for example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    The line I was referring to is the center line in the road not the line seperating bus lane / regular traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Victor wrote: »
    Check the signage.

    Do you mean for parking or for the bus lane times? There's no signing up for parking, as there wouldn't be in an estate or road like that, but it's still ok to park on such roads so I'm not sure.

    With regards the continuous white line, the bus lane becomes the driving lane and therefore there is another lane beside it (this is the one with the continuous line to the right of it separating directional traffic). I think I've read before the the line of a bus lane is only "continuous" during operating hours of the bus lane and outside of the hours it acts as a broken line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    cormie wrote: »
    Yup, but I'm just referring to out of hours bus lanes and the bus lanes in the above example aren't 24/7 :)

    Just realised you meant Out Of Hours in your post and not the word OOH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    The rule of not parking where there is a solid white line only applies when there are less than 3 traffic lanes.


    For clarity, there is no rule that say you can't cross a solid white line. There is a rule that you can't cross road marking RRM 001 (which just happens to be a continuous white line). It doesn't apply to road marking RRM 024.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a25
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a32

    Note the 1997 regulations have had some amendments.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Victor wrote: »
    The rule of not parking where there is a solid white line only applies when there are less than 3 traffic lanes.


    For clarity, there is no rule that say you can't cross a solid white line. There is a rule that you can't cross road marking RRM 001 (which just happens to be a continuous white line). It doesn't apply to road marking RRM 024.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a25
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/si/0182.html#zzsi182y1997a32

    Note the 1997 regulations have had some amendments.

    Does "less than 3 traffic lanes" mean 2, as in, if there is more than 1 in each direction, which the above photo would mean there would be (4 traffic lanes in total on the road) or does it mean per direction I wonder?

    What do you reckon yourself Victor with regards parking in the OOH bus lane with no yellow lines?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Should be no problem, as long as you check for signs/road markings stating otherwise, and obey normal parking rules (not within 5m of a junction etc.).

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Yeah hopefully, would be good to have some legislation to point to if any clampers came a clamping though ;)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    theres a situation exactly like this out my way.
    theres a bus lane but its not in operation yet, no signs up but the thick whitle and lana bus is there.

    no yellow lines.
    cars are parked in it all day long.
    garda cant do anything because theres no signage or yellow lines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Jus a thought, why are you bothered about parking when you have a helicopter? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Eh, it's essentially a dual carriageway - no?

    'Out of hours' the bus lane becomes the driving lane and the 'In hours' driving lane becomes the passing lane.

    Still, if there's no double yellers you should be grand! ;)


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