Dole payment into bank account

gustafo

Hi

I am just wondering is it possible to have my jsb paid directly into my bank as opposed to collecting it at the post office, i have looked online but getting conflicting reports about this, i have been collecting dole with 7 months and some people say that you can have it transfered to your bank account after 6 months signing on, the reason i want change to my bank account is i have bill ti pay every week and it would be a lot easier than having to get it at the post office and put it into my bank,

Any advise much appriecated

Elevator

Do yourself a favour and don't tell them in the social welfare that's the reason cos they'll probably ask you how it's so hard to put money in your bank every week if you're expected to be actively looking for work week in week out. As far as I know they can in exceptional cases transfer your payment but your case is hardly that in fairness.

Santa Claus

AFAIK they gave up this practice of paying directly into bank accounts about 2 years ago, as the system was being abused.

peppy007

Can they make an exception for some people?

I applied for JSA, I am self employed and business is not doing well..Im am tied to a lease on a retail unit so can not fold.

Basically, I am always working between 5-7 days a week and dont really have the time to head to the post office every week, do you think theres any point asking to get it directly into bank a/c?

Thanks

Elevator

They still have discretion in exceptional cases for sure as a friend got hers paid in the last year. Just be nice to the person when a go in and who knows what they can do for you.

Dempo1

There is no longer any discretion in this regard, primarily because of enormous abuse from claimants who were non resident. I doubt very much the social welfare will accommodate such a payment method.

crossmolinalad

there comes a time that they have to pay in bank accounts
There are more and more robberies on post offices on sw payday
see the last one yesterday
A friend of mine works on a post office and they hate the thursdays and fridays
only because the huge amounts of sw money inthere

IrishTonyO

crossmolinalad wrote: »

there comes a time that they have to pay in bank accounts
There are more and more robberies on post offices on sw payday
see the last one yesterday
A friend of mine works on a post office and they hate the thursdays and fridays
only because the huge amounts of sw money inthere

They used to pay directly into your bank account, however it was stopped due to abuse, i.e. people working over in UK and coming back once a month to sign on and getting the money paid into their bank account etc. etc.

hello932

IrishTonyO wrote: »

They used to pay directly into your bank account, however it was stopped due to abuse, i.e. people working over in UK and coming back once a month to sign on and getting the money paid into their bank account etc. etc.

Seriously? Its bad enough being unemployed in this country when you are genuinely looking for a job. The fact that you have to go to the post office on a weekly basis to prove your poorness is absolutely a sham. I am of course referring to the absolute mess that fianna fail made of the good 'Celtic Tiger years'.

Mr. Presentable

hello932 wrote: »

Seriously? Its bad enough being unemployed in this country when you are genuinely looking for a job. The fact that you have to go to the post office on a weekly basis to prove your poorness is absolutely a sham. I am of course referring to the absolute mess that fianna fail made of the good 'Celtic Tiger years'.

What? Sure you have nothing else to do! I think it should go back to the old way, hours of queueing to sign on in the Welfare office to sign and get paid every week.

hello932

nipplenuts wrote: »

What? Sure you have nothing else to do! I think it should go back to the old way, hours of queueing to sign on in the Welfare office to sign and get paid every week.

Is this all because of people from northern ireland crossing over the border?

Yeh yeh its totally fair that the government are free to do whatever they want with taxpayers money but when somebody unemployed actually needs it they are treated like a criminal. Regressive.

IrishTonyO

hello932 wrote: »

Is this all because of people from northern ireland crossing over the border?

Yeh yeh its totally fair that the government are free to do whatever they want with taxpayers money but when somebody unemployed actually needs it they are treated like a criminal. Regressive.

Going to a post office once a week is hardly being treated like a criminal. I am unemployed at the moment and don't mind this as it reduces fraud.

hello932

IrishTonyO wrote: »

Going to a post office once a week is hardly being treated like a criminal. I am unemployed at the moment and don't mind this as it reduces fraud.

I guess pride and dignity are only for those with jobs then :pac: Oh Well-i imagine that Ireland is going to be in the ****s for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised if the unemployment % in this country went up to 20%.

IrishTonyO

hello932 wrote: »

I guess pride and dignity are only for those with jobs then :pac: Oh Well-i imagine that Ireland is going to be in the ****s for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised if the unemployment % in this country went up to 20%.

How do you lose pride or dignity going to a post office? Do the same happen when you go in for stamps or to pay a bill?

hello932

IrishTonyO wrote: »

How do you lose pride or dignity going to a post office? Do the same happen when you go in for stamps or to pay a bill?

So your telling me that going in to the post office and asking for your social welfare is not at all embarrassing?

IrishTonyO

hello932 wrote: »

So your telling me that going in to the post office and asking for your social welfare is not at all embarrassing?

No I don't find it embarrassing, and this is my first time on social welfare. I find the whole process a lot easier than I thought. Years ago guys had to queue in the social welfare office and sign on every week and provide evidence of the jobs they looked for that week.

straricco

gustafo wrote: »

some people say that you can have it transfered to your bank account after 6 months signing on

Ws in my local office on friday and was told that after 6 months you can apply to have the money put into your bank account. Prob need to go into them, I know my local office never answers the phone! Typical!!

gustafo

Hi


Just for anybody here that were thinking about having there payment moved from the post office to the bank, i just got back from the social welfare office where i asked them can i do this and they said no problem as long as i have been collecting dole with 6 months, she asked me did i have my bank details with me and i said yes so she said put them on a piece of paper with my pps no. sign and date it and she put into the system while i waited no questions asked no problem, i usually collect my payment every wednesday from the post office she just said the payment will go into my bank account every thursday from now on.

Elessar

Huh?

I enquired about this with social welfare only a few weeks ago and was told you can no longer get any payment into your bank account, even after 6 months?

gustafo

Elessar wrote: »

Huh?

I enquired about this with social welfare only a few weeks ago and was told you can no longer get any payment into your bank account, even after 6 months?

I'm not sure why u were told that, i was able to look at her doing it on her p.c, even when i gave her the sort code for the bank it came up which bank it was, maybe it must be different with each social welfare office

uoluol

You were very very lucky, and the staff member who did that was going against a RDO directive. In fact in some regions people are being taken from bank payments and put onto post office payments, as a means of control. It certainly isn't widespread.

artielange

hello932 wrote: »

So your telling me that going in to the post office and asking for your social welfare is not at all embarrassing?

It might be, if you actually had to ask.

Dempo1

hello932 wrote: »

So your telling me that going in to the post office and asking for your social welfare is not at all embarrassing?

Now Now this is getting a little tetchy, I am unemployed and to be perfectly honest going in once a week and swiping your card could hardly be described as a chore. The practice of no longer doing transfers to bank accounts was stopped due to serious fraud and not necessarily northern Ireland and unfair to apportion blame. To be honest going back to the old days (I am newly unemployed) were i believe you had to sign for at the dole office would be a nightmare particularly for those living in very rural areas including my humble self. I sign on in Tullamore and they decided to change signing on days to ease Q's, what i experienced this Tuesday was horrendous, the Q must have been over a mile long with delays of up to three hours, it was total disgrace confounded by some nicely printed notices telling the public the office would be closed at 1 o clock, due to industrial action in the afternoon.

My further amusement was enhanced by the two (Porters i guess) who stood outside directing traffic with cigarettes hanging from their mouths, they looked like two slobs, scruffy, unshaven, unhelpful and cared less about people standing in the bitter cold (some of considerable age), I have seen these slobs a few times at this office, I know quite a few people who would gladly take their jobs and take some pride whilst showing some dignity.

O the Joys of our countries sense of direction and our charming Public servants. (To be fair the office staff are genuinely helpful)

gustafo

uoluol wrote: »

You were very very lucky, and the staff member who did that was going against a RDO directive. In fact in some regions people are being taken from bank payments and put onto post office payments, as a means of control. It certainly isn't widespread.

well it will be interesting to see if the payment will be in the bank next thursday so, you would think if one office doesn't do it that it would be nationwide and all the staff all over the country would of been told not to do it, ahh well will just have to wait and see i suppose

westernventure

gustafo wrote: »

well it will be interesting to see if the payment will be in the bank next thursday so, you would think if one office doesn't do it that it would be nationwide and all the staff all over the country would of been told not to do it, ahh well will just have to wait and see i suppose

Well this is ireland so i wouldnt hold my breath, this country has a very good way of doing things arseways

gustafo

uoluol wrote: »

You were very very lucky, and the staff member who did that was going against a RDO directive. In fact in some regions people are being taken from bank payments and put onto post office payments, as a means of control. It certainly isn't widespread.

Well just want to let ye know i got my first payment in my bank account on wed so obviously this method of payment is still being accepted after 6 months signing on, so anybody wanting to do this go talk to them again

crushproof

gustafo wrote: »

Well just want to let ye know i got my first payment in my bank account on wed so obviously this method of payment is still being accepted after 6 months signing on, so anybody wanting to do this go talk to them again

Time for you to live it up in a cheaper, warmer and sunnier country and just come back each month to sign on
I know it's deemed to be fraud and all....but I'd be seriously tempted to do that if my welfare was going straight into my bank!

Dempo1

gustafo wrote: »

Well just want to let ye know i got my first payment in my bank account on wed so obviously this method of payment is still being accepted after 6 months signing on, so anybody wanting to do this go talk to them again

I'm amazed and pleased for you that this form of payment was arranged, all the advice out there suggested the SW no longer pay into personal bank accounts for a host of reasons and not necessarily because someone is long term unemployed. I am assuming there may be some discretion for those living in extreme rural locations but i have sought advice on this from every possible source and all said this practice ended because of wide spread fraud etc. This said, congrats and yes, head of the the Sun, its what i would do, this country is gone to rot!

peppy007

gustafo wrote: »

Well just want to let ye know i got my first payment in my bank account on wed so obviously this method of payment is still being accepted after 6 months signing on, so anybody wanting to do this go talk to them again

Are you on JSA or JSB? I think I remember reading that after 6 months, people on JSB may apply to have it paid into their bank account, but not people on JSA.

cute_cow

hello932 wrote: »

So your telling me that going in to the post office and asking for your social welfare is not at all embarrassing?

No its not. Why would it? Please explain why you feel it is embarrassing to go to the post office, and not embarrassing for the banks and their employees to see a social welfare payment go into your bank account?

I agree fully with IrishTonyO and Dempo1. Its not exactly a chore to get off your arse and go to the post office, and I am def not embarrassed as most people in the queue are there for the same reason anyway!

And why should I feel like that? Embarrassed that I was made redundant from my role, embarrassed beacuse I paid PRSI so I could get help when I became unemployed? Nope, again, not gonna make me feel embarrassed.

Its not a taboo subject, and nothing to be ashamed off. Me thinks you have to grow up slightly and be happy that you can get a payment for being unemployed.

gustafo

peppy007 wrote: »

Are you on JSA or JSB? I think I remember reading that after 6 months, people on JSB may apply to have it paid into their bank account, but not people on JSA.

I am on JSB with 7 months

westernventure

i was in my local SW office today and asked them is this payment still possible and was told it is after 6 months, i didnt want mine switched as the post office is handy for me as i live in a small village and its only like a minute away from my house

asxcv

Can anyone tell me...

do you have to collect your dole in the same post office every week?

Xiney

asxcv wrote: »

Can anyone tell me...

do you have to collect your dole in the same post office every week?

Yes - it's the one you selected on your application form.

phoenix999

gustafo wrote: »

I am on JSB with 7 months

Could you tell me where in the Cork office you went? General enquiries downstairs or one of the upstairs hatches? Dont want to be waiting in the wrong place for half the day...coming up to six months on JSB soon. Thanks:)

eth0_

hello932 wrote: »

So your telling me that going in to the post office and asking for your social welfare is not at all embarrassing?

No, not in the least and i've been on the dole for 6 months. Maybe if I knew the person in the post office (my local PO is very small) I might feel self conscious but embarrassed, no way. How could you possibly feel embarrassed about drawing the dole when you consider how many people are drawing the dole in Ireland these days?

gustafo

phoenix999 wrote: »

Could you tell me where in the Cork office you went? General enquiries downstairs or one of the upstairs hatches? Dont want to be waiting in the wrong place for half the day...coming up to six months on JSB soon. Thanks:)

I don't use cork city office i am in the county

redredder

nipplenuts wrote: »

What? Sure you have nothing else to do! I think it should go back to the old way, hours of queueing to sign on in the Welfare office to sign and get paid every week.

Are you serious? Nothing else to do? Interviews, CV writing, appts with recruitment agencies and citizen's info, let alone bus journeys to get to these interviews if they don't have a car that can really take up most of their day - collecting in a post office each week can sometimes conflict with these things. Obviously they're not kept as busy as most people, but that is just rude and inconsiderate to say.

Also, you think that people SHOULD be queuing up for hours???? That is horrible. This is an economic crisis, what people need is support from others, not to be looked down upon just because they have no employment. MANY, many people have been made redundant, and can't get a job because they are 'over-qualified'. Fair enough, there are also MANY who are genuinely NOT seeking work, but this is a generalisation you have made which is completely ridiculous.

Put yourself in other people's shoes for once, and wipe that smug smile off your face.

artielange

Anyone that switched from post office to bank, did your day change, are all payments made to the bank on the same day for everyone? thanks

Sorry as i posted this in another thread and didnt notice the date.

gustafo

artielange wrote: »

Anyone that switched from post office to bank, did your day change, are all payments made to the bank on the same day for everyone? thanks

Sorry as i posted this in another thread and didnt notice the date.

mine was changed by 1 day, used to get it at the PO on wednesday now goes into bank thursday