Poker In The Pub?? What's the deal?

Rockfish

Anyone know what the story is with this crowd? It semes if you join their league, the pub has to pay €50 each night to central office + players play €2 each every night yet there is no transparency whatsovever and the promise is of an estimated €70,000 grand final prize. I'm not trying to knock them but am i missing something here?
There website is a joke also and doesnt give any details about the new league.

Maddogg

this is the 3rd league they have run, the last one has just finished and was held in kilarney at the start of Feb.......it was a gauranteed 65k

it was a great weekend and the league is well run by all involved
if you contact Jim Smith, boards name IPPT, he will fill you in with all you need to know

IPPT

Rockfish wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with this crowd? It semes if you join their league, the pub has to pay €50 each night to central office + players play €2 each every night yet there is no transparency whatsovever and the promise is of an estimated €70,000 grand final prize. I'm not trying to knock them but am i missing something here?
There website is a joke also and doesnt give any details about the new league.

Hi feel free to call me at anytime on 0861217281

Regards,

Jim

Rockfish

IPPT wrote: »

Hi feel free to call me at anytime on 0861217281

Regards,

Jim

No offence but i talked to you a couple of weeks ago and i am none the wiser. I am asking here to see what people involved think and how it works.

One person who runs a game i talked to last week and they reckoned they only forwarded the €2 per player and didnt pay the €50 as they supplied theit own equipment.

IPPT

Rockfish wrote: »

No offence but i talked to you a couple of weeks ago and i am none the wiser. I am asking here to see what people involved think and how it works.

One person who runs a game i talked to last week and they reckoned they only forwarded the €2 per player and didnt pay the €50 as they supplied theit own equipment.

Well thats no true anyone who runs there on game pays us 50 euro per week and thats it and no 2 euro per player

Rockfish

IPPT wrote: »

Well thats no true anyone who runs there on game pays us 50 euro per week and thats it and no 2 euro per player

Ok, i was misinformed. Won't be getting involved so...€50 a night way too steep. GL with it.

Rockfish

Sorry, i just re read that again. So it's €50 a night and no €2 per player?

IPPT

Rockfish wrote: »

Sorry, i just re read that again. So it's €50 a night and no €2 per player?

yes thats if the event is not run by poker in the pub staff. However if the event is run by poker in the pub the breakdown is this. 10 euro entry, 4 euro per player goes to the td on the night, 4 euro goes to to the prize-pool, 2 euro goes to poker in the pub for addmin costs, such as tables, chips, cards, etc. in some venues players like to add to the prize-pool. for example a 25 euro freeze-out, 19 euro goes to the prize-pool, 4 euro to the td, 2 euro to poker in the pub. Hope this answers some of your questions.

Regards,

Jim

Rockfish

IPPT wrote: »

yes thats if the event is not run by poker in the pub staff. However if the event is run by poker in the pub the breakdown is this. 10 euro entry, 4 euro per player goes to the td on the night, 4 euro goes to to the prize-pool, 2 euro goes to poker in the pub for addmin costs, such as tables, chips, cards, etc. in some venues players like to add to the prize-pool. for example a 25 euro freeze-out, 19 euro goes to the prize-pool, 4 euro to the td, 2 euro to poker in the pub. Hope this answers some of your questions.

Regards,

Jim

Thanks, that's a bit clearer.

Rockfish

Sorry, one more question. I would expect an average of only 10-12 players if i run this league. How many players would qualify if thas the average number?

IPPT

Rockfish wrote: »

Sorry, one more question. I would expect an average of only 10-12 players if i run this league. How many players would qualify if thas the average number?

10-12 Players you would have 1 player qualify every 4 weeks, the league is done in 3 cycles, so with them numbers you would have 3 in for the grand final.

Coillte_Bhoy

IPPT wrote: »

10-12 Players you would have 1 player qualify every 4 weeks, the league is done in 3 cycles, so with them numbers you would have 3 in for the grand final.

What's the exact method for deciding how many players go through?

Four of a kind

I've been asked to get involved with this as well, but I'll have to run it past my regular players and see if they want to do it. There's no chance in hell though my the publican is going to pay out €50 every week for something i've been doing the past four years in the pub.

I'd have 25/30 players on avg twice a week playing, but I'd only be looking to run it on one of those nights ...ie tuesday night(if the players want it). So how many players would qualify from say an average of 25 for the grand final?

Rockfish, what part of the country are you going to run yours in, if you go ahead with it?

IPPT

Four of a kind wrote: »

I've been asked to get involved with this as well, but I'll have to run it past my regular players and see if they want to do it. There's no chance in hell though my the publican is going to pay out €50 every week for something i've been doing the past four years in the pub.

I'd have 25/30 players on avg twice a week playing, but I'd only be looking to run it on one of those nights ...ie tuesday night(if the players want it). So how many players would qualify from say an average of 25 for the grand final?

Rockfish, what part of the country are you going to run yours in, if you go ahead with it?

If you have 25 players you will get 2 players in every 4 weeks. So a total of 6 players

Coillte_Bhoy

IPPT wrote: »

If you have 25 players you will get 2 players in every 4 weeks. So a total of 6 players

Can you please give an exact breakdown? It seems odd, €50 x 4 = €200 to qualify 1 player from a 12 man league and the same amount €200 will qualify 2 players from a 25 man league. Doesnt really add up imo

Four of a kind

I'm very con fuddled by all this as well to be very honest.

Jim, could you post a complete breakdown of how this thing operates.

i've to take €600 (12 weeks x €50) out of the pot to qualify 6 players into the grand final bases on 25 players on average per game????

It would be beneficial to all involved if things could be 100% clear and exactly whats involved/not involved.

As I said to Fintan, I'm interested only if my players are interested....bottom line.

IPPT

You can check all Questions on are web-site www.pokerinthepub.ie if you have any other questions you can contact us by e-mail info@pokerinthepub.ie,

Regards,

Jim

Coillte_Bhoy

IPPT wrote: »

You can check all Questions on are web-site www.pokerinthepub.ie if you have any other questions you can contact us by e-mail info@pokerinthepub.ie,

Regards,

Jim

With all due respect, the FAQ section on the site does not answer these questions clearly. One simple question here...How much is a ticket to your grand final worth? Incl reg fee?

IPPT

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

With all due respect, the FAQ section on the site does not answer these questions clearly. One simple question here...How much is a ticket to your grand final worth? Incl reg fee?

there is no value on the ticket if 3 players turn up we still payout the guaranteed prize-pool, you must qualify from a league, reg fee applies which will be comfirmed in the next few days, which as you know covers dealers, floor staff etc.

Regards,

Jim

Coillte_Bhoy

IPPT wrote: »

there is no value on the ticket if 3 players turn up we still payout the guaranteed prize-pool, you must qualify from a league, reg fee applies which will be comfirmed in the next few days, which as you know covers dealers, floor staff etc.

Regards,

Jim

Of course i understand there are many overheads and i have no problem with you making a healthy profit but its just not very clear as per the charter on this forum.
eg how many pubs are involved?? How much will do you expect to take in €50 entries and what % will ye pay out? The Brucepoker Pub eague was totally transparent on this.

cj-

IPPT wrote: »

10-12 Players you would have 1 player qualify every 4 weeks, the league is done in 3 cycles, so with them numbers you would have 3 in for the grand final.

Unless you are frieds with one of the organisers, then you can get as many tickets without haven't to qualify

IPPT

cj- wrote: »

Unless you are frieds with one of the organisers, then you can get as many tickets without haven't to qualify

Find that statement in very poor taste would like to see if you can back up this statement.

Regards,

Jim

cj-

IPPT wrote: »

Find that statement in very poor taste would like to see if you can back up this statement.

Well for example from the list of winners from killarney there is 3 players out of the winners list on your site from a pub call the goose tavern.
Considerin how there was only two people that qauilfied from this pub but somehow 3 players in top 19 and who knows how many others?

Maddogg

just a note

thats incorrect, the pubs they qualified from were incorrect on the post but these players all play regularly in that pub and others around the same location.
ie goose tavern, A1 Ardlea inn, Barcode, horse and hound and kittys

i know for fact that 19th place Lee Devlin qualified from barcode and Austin (cant remember his 2nd name) 17th place finisher qualified from A1 Ardlea inn but both play in goose tavern league too

As to the amount to paid towards the tickets is as Jim stated €50 a night of the prizepool if you are not an IPPT run event

with regard to running of the main event i can say it was run very well and provided exactly what they set out to do. as Jim stated from the previous league they have learnt alot and are pushing to make inprovements all the time. this event has give pub players a chance to play bigger event.

after running both leagues for Bruce poker & for IPPT i can say that my pplayers said they enjoy the killarney a little more as the atmosphere was great but thats not to say bruce poker didnt run a great event. but both leagues ran with much success and long may they last

winstons pt

cj- wrote: »

Well for example from the list of winners from killarney there is 3 players out of the winners list on your site from a pub call the goose tavern.
Considerin how there was only two people that qauilfied from this pub but somehow 3 players in top 19 and who knows how many others?

If there was names from Kilarney and they were not on the winners list means they probably go a transferable ticket
Regards Paddy

Coillte_Bhoy

Maddogg wrote: »

just a note

with regard to running of the main event i can say it was run very well and provided exactly what they set out to do. as Jim stated from the previous league they have learnt alot and are pushing to make inprovements all the time. this event has give pub players a chance to play bigger event.

after running both leagues for Bruce poker & for IPPT i can say that my pplayers said they enjoy the killarney a little more as the atmosphere was great but thats not to say bruce poker didnt run a great event. but both leagues ran with much success and long may they last

I feel like im banging my head of abrick wall here. I am sure the main event was very professionally run but thats not twhat my query relates to as im sure you know.

IPPT

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Of course i understand there are many overheads and i have no problem with you making a healthy profit but its just not very clear as per the charter on this forum.
eg how many pubs are involved?? How much will do you expect to take in €50 entries and what % will ye pay out? The Brucepoker Pub eague was totally transparent on this.

Sorry for not replying, missed this.

We currently have 48 pubs signed up to a 12 week league in season 2.
Our target is 120 pubs.
100 % of players league monies is paid out, the company covers its running costs from contributions from publicans where poker in the pub set up the tournys.
Organizors added in the region of 30k to prizepool in season 1, Killarney, in order to honour guarantee.
For season 2, we estimate with 100 pubs we can create a 60k prizepool, however we are again guaranting 65k.

Hope this answers your questions.

IPPT

Four of a kind wrote: »

I'm very con fuddled by all this as well to be very honest.

Jim, could you post a complete breakdown of how this thing operates.

i've to take €600 (12 weeks x €50) out of the pot to qualify 6 players into the grand final bases on 25 players on average per game????

It would be beneficial to all involved if things could be 100% clear and exactly whats involved/not involved.

As I said to Fintan, I'm interested only if my players are interested....bottom line.

Hi Carlo,

1-15 players. 1 player every 4 weeks.

15-30 players 2 players every 4 weeks.

31-45 players 3 players every 4 weeks

cost is 50 euro per week. so 12 week cycle is 600 euro