Sugar

BluePlanet

I hate Sugar.

Ever tried to live without sugar?
It's in fecking everything.

I'm not talking about glucose and fructose (though i also try to avoid fructose), but just ordinary white sugar.
It's nasty stuff; rots your teeth, makes you fat, contributes to diabetes and all manner of health issues.
It also carries a really bad history, massive slave trade, people and land exploitation are all inextricably linked to the Sugar Industry.

Why do they put it in everything?

Tin of baked beans - Sugar
Breakfast cereal - Sugar

It's really hard to avoid it entirely, infact i'd go sofar as to say it's IMPOSSIBLE to live sugar-free.

For some reason they spoil everything with it.
Just had a chx curry over lunch, guess what? Sweet as feck!
It was disgusting.

In fairness, once you start avoiding sugar you notice it a lot more.
Like, when you do your shopping and scrutinize the ingredients list... Sugar, 2nd thing on the list.
Or, "natural sweeters", or "corn syrup" further down. Sometimes they'll put in both Sugar AND corn syrup, as though you just can't get enough.

I also find that my taste buds are now more attuned to detecting subtle traces of the sh*t.

I wonder, is that ordinary people just love it so much that they want it in everthing they eat and drink?
Or is it that manufacturers of foods stuffs are using it in heavy doses to mask the sh*t quality of their actual product?

Bonito

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3cHbfOkyCE

Biggins

Could be worse, could be garlic! Yuk!

That_Guy

I love sugar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjxwXCxBBU

This rather scared me when I was younger actually.

mikom

Causes your arms to drop off I heard....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVxiHC9AJQw

BluePlanet

Def Leopard?
You gotta be kidding me mate.

S****test band ever?

mikom

BluePlanet wrote: »

Def Leopard?
You gotta be kidding me mate.

S****test band ever?

I agree Def Leppard were miles better.

oppenheimer1

Give me some sugar, I am your neighbour!

BluePlanet

Def Leppard

Glenster

Here's a tip, stop eating stuff out of cans and boxes.

Vegetables - No sugar

Meat - No sugar

Fruit - No sugar

Bread - No sugar

They only put sugar into branded things so you'll become addicted to them and keep buying the brand.

besides sugar rulez.

BluePlanet

Glenster wrote: »

Here's a tip, stop eating stuff out of cans and boxes.

Vegetables - No sugar

Meat - No sugar

Fruit - No sugar

Bread - No sugar

They only put sugar into branded things so you'll become addicted to them and keep buying the brand.

besides sugar rulez.

Well you got 2 right out of 4

oppenheimer1

Glenster wrote: »

Here's a tip, stop eating stuff out of cans and boxes.

Vegetables - No sugar

Meat - No sugar

Fruit - No sugar

Bread - No sugar

They only put sugar into branded things so you'll become addicted to them and keep buying the brand.

besides sugar rulez.

Rubbish, vegetables fruit and most breads all contain sugars

WindSock

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Give me some sugar, I am your neighbour!

All right pal. Where'd you get the sugar for that tea???!

mikom

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Rubbish, vegetables fruit and most breads all contain sugars

BluePlanet wrote: »

I'm not talking about glucose and fructose (though i also try to avoid fructose), but just ordinary white sugar.

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General Zod

BluePlanet wrote: »

It also carries a really bad history, massive slave trade, people and land exploitation are all inextricably linked to the Sugar Industry.

don't recall much slave labour on sugar beet farms in Carlow.

BluePlanet

General Zod wrote: »

don't recall much slave labour on sugar beet farms in Carlow.

That's not where your sugar is coming from though.
Sugar Beet industry collapsed here years ago.

BluePlanet

I said i also try to avoide Fructose.
It's not good for you.

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Fructose (also levulose) is a simple monosaccharide found in many foods. It is a white solid that dissolves readily in water. Honey, tree fruits, berries, melons, and some root vegetables contain significant amounts of the fructose derivative sucrose (table sugar). Sucrose is a disaccharide derived from the condensation of glucose and fructose. About 250M kg of crystalline fructose are produced annually.[1]
Crystalline fructose and high-fructose corn syrup are often confused as the same product. Crystalline fructose, which is often produced from a fructose-enriched corn syrup, is indeed the monosaccharide. High-fructose corn syrup, however, is usually a mixture of nearly equal amounts of fructose and glucose.

Fructose is repeatedly mentioned as a health hazard due to namely its similarity with alcohol in the human body and digestive problems. The human liver also converts a large percentage of fructose into fat which increases the risk for the metabolic syndrome.

OutlawPete

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Rubbish, vegetables fruit and most breads all contain sugars

I presume you are talking about the above three in their unprocessed state?

Nature has made sure that Fruits and Vegetables contain the requisite amount of fiber so as to make their 'sugars' safe and non-poisonous.

Fruit juice removes the fiber and so it cannot be considered a 'healthy' food if taken in large quantities.

I think the OP is avoiding processed sugars anyway and just saying that he finds that nearly ALL processed food has added 'sugars' these days.

Sugar is poison and causes atherosclerosis, despite the medical profession's assertion that it is 'fat' consumption.

antodeco

First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the wimmins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3TZA0vNl2c

That_Guy

You'd need a hefty dose of sugar for this I'd say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_5zvV0btCo

Paddy Samurai

Check out on the web how powerfull the american sugar lobby are.
Read somewhere before that they are more powefull than the tobacco lobby and the gun lobby.

The Sugar Association, which includes such giants as Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola and General Foods, is reported to have threatened to lobby Congress to withdraw funding from the WHO unless its sugar report is withdrawn.

It says other evidence suggests that sugar can safely form one quarter of a person's food intake.

Responding to a draft of the WHO report last month, the Sugar Association said there was "a preponderance of recent scientific evidence" exonerating sugar as a cause of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, hyperactivity and tooth decay.

They have a lot of clout ...so don't piss them off :eek:
They might beat the sh!t sugar out of you.:)

General Zod

If I avoided everything that was bad for me my life would be as boring as yours.

newmember2

General Zod wrote: »

If I avoided everything that was bad for me my life would be as boring as yours.

Yes, nothing like damaging myself to liven things up a bit.

Wazdakka

newmember? wrote: »

Yes, nothing like damaging myself to liven things up a bit.

Face it..

Anything even remotely enjoyable is either, Bad for you, immoral, dangerous or fattening..

Now how do you want to go out??

Huddling beneath your crash helmet in a sterile room surrounded by rice cakes at the age of 94?

Or while having sex with several hot women on the back of a speeding motorbike, jumping the grand canyon and eating a bucket of fried chicken dipped in chocolate?

General Zod

newmember? wrote: »

Yes, nothing like damaging myself to liven things up a bit.

I'm quite happy with my lifestyle, thanks.

OutlawPete

Wazdakka wrote: »

Anything even remotely enjoyable is either, Bad for you, immoral, dangerous or fattening..

Take your point and it's an opinion I hold myself.

However, when it comes to food and drink, you can enjoy it just the same, if not more, if you east foods that are kind to the body.

For instance, I could make you a burger that would be full of nutrition and contains little or no detrimental ingredients.

Or I could take you to McDonalds.

The odd McDonalds trip won't mean much over a lifetime but some people live the place. That may very well be enjoyable right now but given time, it has the potential to make their lives wholly miserable.

Not to mention the knock on effect to their loved ones.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Glenster wrote: »

Here's a tip, stop eating stuff out of cans and boxes.

Vegetables - No sugar

Meat - No sugar

Fruit - No sugar

Bread - No sugar

They only put sugar into branded things so you'll become addicted to them and keep buying the brand.

besides sugar rulez.

Fail? Most of those contain sugars.

BluePlanet wrote: »

I said i also try to avoide Fructose.
It's not good for you.

---

Fructose (also levulose) is a simple monosaccharide found in many foods. It is a white solid that dissolves readily in water. Honey, tree fruits, berries, melons, and some root vegetables contain significant amounts of the fructose derivative sucrose (table sugar). Sucrose is a disaccharide derived from the condensation of glucose and fructose. About 250M kg of crystalline fructose are produced annually.[1]
Crystalline fructose and high-fructose corn syrup are often confused as the same product. Crystalline fructose, which is often produced from a fructose-enriched corn syrup, is indeed the monosaccharide. High-fructose corn syrup, however, is usually a mixture of nearly equal amounts of fructose and glucose.

Fructose is repeatedly mentioned as a health hazard due to namely its similarity with alcohol in the human body and digestive problems. The human liver also converts a large percentage of fructose into fat which increases the risk for the metabolic syndrome.

Wikipedia? Try getting a real source for your information... :rolleyes:

newmember2

General Zod wrote: »

I'm quite happy with my lifestyle, thanks.

That's great news. I'm happy for you.:)

kowloon

As much as I hate to defend them, the danger of McDonalds has been exaggerated. A lot of foods with a reputation for being healthier are as bad for you as some of the takeaway stuff. Some pre-packaged sandwiches have more fat in them than a burger.

It's all BS.

dr.bollocko

Aspen Fancy Victory wrote: »

Wikipedia? Try getting a real source for your information... :rolleyes:

How about you show us what's wrong with the source material instead?
There's a good chap.

OutlawPete

kowloon wrote: »

As much as I hate to defend them, the danger of McDonalds has been exaggerated. A lot of foods with a reputation for being healthier are as bad for you as some of the takeaway stuff. Some pre-packaged sandwiches have more fat in them than a burger.

It's all BS.

Oh, I agree all that stuff is sh*te also but that does not make McDonalads food healthy.

McDonalds is the most popular and most used fast food establishment in most cities in the world so that's why I mentioned them.

But Abrakebabra, Burger King, most chippers etc etc are just as bad.

Processed food in general is all junk, no matter what the labels claim.

Glenster

Aspen Fancy Victory wrote: »

Fail? Most of those contain sugars.

Yes, but........

BluePlanet wrote: »

I'm not talking about glucose and fructose (though i also try to avoid fructose), but just ordinary white sugar.

Fail?

kowloon

OutlawPete wrote: »

McDonalds is the most popular and most used fast food establishment in most cities in the world so that's why I mentioned them.

Understood and agreed, but there is a general belief that if you avoid chippers and other fastfood type places you're somehow in the clear.
I think that myth needs to be dispelled.

BluePlanet

I'd like to see less Sugar forced down our throats.
You shouldn't have to eat like a tibetan monk to avoid that stuff.

jimmycrackcorm

This thread is going to be bitter without sugar.

OutlawPete

BluePlanet wrote: »

I'd like to see less Sugar forced down our throats.
You shouldn't have to eat like a tibetan monk to avoid that stuff.

There's a great little delicatessen in Dublin called Blazing Salads.

They make lots of desserts and cakes sweetened with dried fruit and the like.

They bake their own bread and sell frozen soups also.

Listons on Camden St is also a cracking place.

BoBo's and GBK make great burgers.

Only issue being you need to be minted to eat at these places regularly.

Which is why McDonalds is always packed I guess.