Who Is The Next Great Irish Hype?

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With the retirement of Bernard Dunne, who will fill those 10pm slots on RTE's "ProBox" show??

I predict that with his being exposed as a defense-deficient brawler who can't punch we could soon see John Duddy back on Irish shores fighting for obscure world and regional titles in front of a baying crowd.

That said, if Andy Lee doesn't get his act together, he might beat him to the punch. Ha-Ha.

Big Ears

Yore Ma !

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Big Ears wrote: »

Yore Ma !

No, she is well old and past her best. Maybe as a come back opponent for Bernard, but not outright Point Depot headline material. Sorry.

I think Macklin is too good to hang around here spoofing with Darragh and the lads...are those Hyland brothers up to much?

Big Ears

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

No, she is well old and past her best. Maybe as a come back opponent for Bernard, but not outright Point Depot headline material. Sorry.

I think Macklin is too good to hang around here spoofing with Darragh and the lads...are those Hyland brothers up to much?

Since you've actually asked something valid I shall indulge you rather than make childish responses.

Patrick has a quite a bit of talent about him, but was absolutely terrible while disposing Mickey Coveney in a defence of his Irish title two weeks ago. I had thought he would make it to European level, but after watching that there's no way he beats Oleg Yefimovich, Martin Lindsay or John Simpson anytime soon.
He is talented though, and I wouldn't entirely rule out the possibility of him winning that European strap sometime before he retires.

Eddie Hyland is okay, he's immensely tough and will come out on top of almost any fighter below European level if they go to war with him.
He's probably good enough to contest the European belt, but not to win it.
Kirakosyan would hit too hard imo, and he's one man Eddie wouldn't be able to out tough. He'd beat Scott Lawton though, the man who just challenged Kirakosyan for the vacant title.
I just don't envisage a situation where Eddie can win the European title, but he can beat plenty of ranked fighters.

Paulie is very talented but rarely lives up to that talent when he performs.
He has a potent left hook, but he lacks power and sometimes switches southpaw for no reason(he's a terrible southpaw aswell). He's going to Italy next month to fight for the EU title against David Chianella and I think Paulie will come out of the with a stoppage win. But at full European level I just don't think he'll cut it, and despite his young age and time for improvement I'm not sure I can see that changing with promising Super-Bantamweights ike Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg coming up through the ranks.

Paulie is small at the weight aswell, and can make Bantamweight with out too much trouble, he just feels he's more effective at 122.

So one of them could potentially grab a European belt at some point, but it would be a brief stint with the belt and prospects beyond that are unlikely.
However Eddie's great to watch, loves to get into wars.
Patrick is nice to watch technically, and Paulie can at times look very classy and slick when he's boxing well.
They sell tickets aswell which is a bonus, but you're certainly not looking at a potential World Champion in any of the lads.

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The thing is, they dont need to be brilliant.

Look at the time honoured method.....at least since the early 1990'...you get a fighter who has a little bit about him, you set him up, make him the regional head-honcho, and then you feed him guys who are just good enough to make him look like he worked for his victory.

That EU title you mention would do the trick. I mean, we use their currency, we can use their titles.

Cannot see the people taking to "El Rebellio". Just....cannot see it.

You get a guy in there, defending the EU title, vs fringe British level fighters, and you have yourself another ticket seller.

Bodhisopha

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

The thing is, they dont need to be brilliant.

Look at the time honoured method.....at least since the early 1990'...you get a fighter who has a little bit about him, you set him up, make him the regional head-honcho, and then you feed him guys who are just good enough to make him look like he worked for his victory.

That EU title you mention would do the trick. I mean, we use their currency, we can use their titles.

Cannot see the people taking to "El Rebellio". Just....cannot see it.

You get a guy in there, defending the EU title, vs fringe British level fighters, and you have yourself another ticket seller.

Who was it before Dunne?

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Bodhisopha wrote: »

Who was it before Dunne?

Well, Steve Collins at Milltown, was a truncated version.


I wasn't solely referring to the Irish scene.....generally, you had Scott Harrison in Glasgow, you had Joe Cal in Newcastle or Cardiff, you had Ricky and Naz at the MEN, you catch my drift. Bernard at the Point/National Arena was just an Irish variation on that theme.

Bodhisopha

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

Well, Steve Collins at Milltown, was a truncated version.


I wasn't solely referring to the Irish scene.....generally, you had Scott Harrison in Glasgow, you had Joe Cal in Newcastle or Cardiff, you had Ricky and Naz at the MEN, you catch my drift. Bernard at the Point/National Arena was just an Irish variation on that theme.

Yeah, but as far as i remember Collins wasn't on RTE and as such wasn't getting the special Jimmy Magee, Darragh Maloney and Marty Morrissey treatment that only RTE can provide.

Anyways, in answer to your question Andy Lee will be the new darling of PROBOX LIVE!

Big Ears

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

The thing is, they dont need to be brilliant.

Look at the time honoured method.....at least since the early 1990'...you get a fighter who has a little bit about him, you set him up, make him the regional head-honcho, and then you feed him guys who are just good enough to make him look like he worked for his victory.

That EU title you mention would do the trick. I mean, we use their currency, we can use their titles.

Cannot see the people taking to "El Rebellio". Just....cannot see it.

You get a guy in there, defending the EU title, vs fringe British level fighters, and you have yourself another ticket seller.

Making them the 'regional head-honcho' as you have referred to it is not easy, doing that would require winning the European title as the EU itself is not enough to sell tickets or attract interest. Andy Murray held the EU title and was still only on Dunne undercards during that period. RTÉ would of had you believe that he still holds that title during the Murray v Fagan broadcast but actually it has since been won by Hoang Sang Nguyen.

Andy Lee should be EU champion at Middleweight as he beat the man that held that title in a 10 rounder, but Belghecham's team wouldn't let the title be on the line.
Francie Barrett also held the EU title years back but found himself on Junior Witter undercards.


It's a lot harder to have a headline ticket seller who can sell out arenas than people may think. Only in the North of this country do people support boxing in big numbers.

gmkgreaney

macklin def, and i think mcloskey id going places. iv never seen frampton but i heard he's very good

Bodhisopha

gmkgreaney wrote: »

macklin def, and i think mcloskey id going places. iv never seen frampton but i heard he's very good

3 problems with that. Sky, Sky, Sky.

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Bodhisopha wrote: »

3 problems with that. Sky, Sky, Sky.

Ain't that the truth.

Andy Lee......if he comes home, I know he will regress. He needs to stay in America.

Macklin is too good to hang around here.

Maybe Katie will turn pro after the 'Limps.

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Martin Rogan

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Punishment IRL wrote: »

Martin Rogan

:eek:

S-H-O-T

That said Rogan vs Rebellio would sell some tickets.