Limerick vs. Cork

Orizio

Who do people think will win this one then?

Daysha

Orizio wrote: »

Who do people think will win this one then?

No comment, I'll get myself in trouble either way

soccymonster

Limerick.

Orizio

soccymonster wrote: »

Limerick.

I fear you're right Soccy, what with Cork not having a center forward line and it being in Limerick.

How much do ye think ye'll win by?

Pappy o' daniel

Cork are poor, anyone who thinks they'll compete for the AI is deluded.

Look at all the new talent Waterford have. I just know by May the new players tried yesterday will be on the bench and Cork will be back to the same 15 as last year.

grenache

Cork by about 12 or 13 points i should think. The Newtown players are back for them and only maybe 3 of Limerick's B side are actually good enough for inter-county hurling.

I would be very surprised if Limerick's seconds manage to win any game in the league. Justin McCarthy's position is untenable anyway. I dont agree with the players strike actions but the only way they're coming back is if Justin goes. Ultimately that will have to happen.

Orizio

Pappy o' daniel wrote: »

Cork are poor, anyone who thinks they'll compete for the AI is deluded.

Look at all the new talent Waterford have. I just know by May the new players tried yesterday will be on the bench and Cork will be back to the same 15 as last year.

Spot on Poppy, couldn't agree more. Do you agree with me that Kerry should take Cork's place in the Munster championship in future? There has been some discussion regarding this down south what with Cork hurling being dead as a doornail with everyone and their mother now playing rugby after symbolically burning their hurleys and sliotars in a huge bonfire in Patrick's street.

Orizio

grenache wrote: »

Cork by about 12 or 13 points i should think. The Newtown players are back for them and only maybe 3 of Limerick's B side are actually good enough for inter-county hurling.

I would be very surprised if Limerick's seconds manage to win any game in the league. Justin McCarthy's position is untenable anyway. I dont agree with the players strike actions but the only way they're coming back is if Justin goes. Ultimately that will have to happen.

No they aren't.

Stop downplaying Limerick hurling Grenache - I would ask you to immediately delete your post and come back to us when you have something objective and nuetral to say.

soccymonster

Orizio wrote: »

I fear you're right Soccy, what with Cork not having a center forward line and it being in Limerick.

How much do ye think ye'll win by?

i'm thinking a 1/2 point win. Not getting ahead of myself y'know yourself like. (well you'd know anyways..:pac:)

Pappy o' daniel

Orizio wrote: »

Spot on Poppy, couldn't agree more. Do you agree with me that Kerry should take Cork's place in the Munster championship in future? There has been some discussion regarding this down south what with Cork hurling being dead as a doornail with everyone and their mother now playing rugby after symbolically burning their hurleys and sliotars in a huge bonfire in Patrick's street.

It's Pappy, and I don't remember any such bonfire....

wait, are you being sarcastic?

soccymonster

Pappy o' daniel wrote: »

It's Pappy, and I don't remember any such bonfire....

wait, are you being sarcastic?

*facepalm*

Pappy o' daniel

soccymonster wrote: »

*facepalm*

Thats me being sarcastic. :rolleyes:


I was depressed watching Cork yesterday. Face it orizio, we're not going to beat kilkenny this year, or next year, or the year after at the very least. Theres just no underage talent coming through.

Orizio

Pappy o' daniel wrote: »

Thats me being sarcastic. :rolleyes:


I was depressed watching Cork yesterday. Face it orizio, we're not going to beat kilkenny this year, or next year, or the year after at the very least. Theres just no underage talent coming through.

I never said we would - now what about the Limerick game on Saturday...

The_Kew_Tour

Pappy o' daniel wrote: »

Thats me being sarcastic. :rolleyes:


I was depressed watching Cork yesterday. Face it orizio, we're not going to beat kilkenny this year, or next year, or the year after at the very least. Theres just no underage talent coming through.

Thats the big worry at end of day. Football seems to be different at the moment hearing all sorts good prospects coming through. But for Hurling have not heard of one decent player who looks like they will become the next Brian Corcoron or Ben O Connor.

Orizio

adrian280582 wrote: »

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Thats the big worry at end of day. Football seems to be different at the moment hearing all sorts good prospects coming through. But for Hurling have not heard of one decent player who looks like they will become the next Brian Corcoron or Ben O Connor.

Once in a generation type players really. Set your sights a little lower.

What we aim for is a competitive squad, just like the footballers.

soccymonster

Orizio wrote: »

I never said we would - now what about the Limerick game on Saturday...

just what i was gonna say!
I'll be less optimistic for once, 13/14 point defeat maybe for limerick
grenache said it all above really. Only a few hurlers at present on the '2nd string team' that could be starters on the 'A' panel. Not good.

TheSpecialOne

Yeah Cork will win but the Limerick Lads will give it their all despite their lack of skill etc...but we are building a team!Unfortunatle i think Justin will go at some stage but if the new manager takes all the strikers back then ill refuse to support them.Bring back Gav,Hickey the young lads...mix them in with the "b" team, get rid of Donie ryan and that shower of wasters.Then hopefully in a few years we can compete at the top level...and to the people who want all the players back stop deluding yourselves it won't get much better than it is at the moment.

But back to the point cork by 9...

cornerboy

I suppose Cork will go for a hiding to show solidarity with the strikers.

Limerick_Lass

I agree with what The Specialone has pointed out above... but I would love to see Limerick win on Saturday night. We need a win like this to bring back the faith in Limerick hurling amidst all this negativity

Browney7

If McCarthy goes it will be a disaster for Limerick hurling. Limerick hurling has been rotten for the last 15 years. We got to the all ireland in 07 and had a decent year in 01 beating Cork by a point in Cork and coming back from 4 goals down to beat the Deise before losing narrowly to Tipperary the eventual all ireland champions.(God it shows how bad it has been that I can remember all that like it was yesterday).

Hurling in the city has died a slow and painful death and our club championship has been extremely lacklustre with the likes of Bruree and Garryspillane winning it in recent years. Adare are a good club team but they won it last year without getting out of 3rd gear.

It looks like the clubs are going to side with the players out of fear of getting more hidings in the leagues. But realistically what have these striking players ever done for us?? Last year they themselves got there arses whipped by Tipp in Croker (No one seems to be mentioning this at all) and should have lost to Laois in Thurles aswell. Limerick hurling can't get any worse and at least at the moment we have players that want to play for their county. The shower on strike always look to blame someone else for their short comings. Look at how many managers we have had over the last 10 years. All of them surely can't be wrong can they???

soccymonster

TheSpecialOne wrote: »

Yeah Cork will win but the Limerick Lads will give it their all despite their lack of skill etc...but we are building a team!Unfortunatle i think Justin will go at some stage but if the new manager takes all the strikers back then ill refuse to support them.Bring back Gav,Hickey the young lads...mix them in with the "b" team, get rid of Donie ryan and that shower of wasters.Then hopefully in a few years we can compete at the top level...and to the people who want all the players back stop deluding yourselves it won't get much better than it is at the moment.

would the likes of hickey, o mahoney and co. not likely return though if the players that were dropped aren't brought back either? Your idea is preety much a dream scenario unless they see some 'sense' of the sort. But yea, mixing some of 'b' team with the young ones that left (if they ever decided to return) would be one of the better things for limerick hurling, long term.

Anywaysss.. predicted a limerick win in the pools (but that's just in hope). Expect a big enough margin for cork like.

TheSpecialOne

soccymonster wrote: »

would the likes of hickey, o mahoney and co. not likely return though if the players that were dropped aren't brought back either? Your idea is preety much a dream scenario unless they see some 'sense' of the sort. But yea, mixing some of 'b' team with the young ones that left (if they ever decided to return) would be one of the better things for limerick hurling, long term.

Anywaysss.. predicted a limerick win in the pools (but that's just in hope). Expect a big enough margin for cork like.

If a new manager came in then they would come back the main issue is their supporting the players on strike who felt the way they where dropped by Justin was poor...if a new manager came in and dropped them by informing them, then they can have no complaints annd the boys will be back.This Strike is a joke led by joke players who have no respect for the county supporters or the county management....but then again whats new!

grenache

Orizio wrote: »

No they aren't.

Are you shuuuure? I thought they were back for this game. And if not, why aren't they back?

Stop downplaying Limerick hurling Grenache

I didn't think this level of irony was even possible

- I would ask you to immediately delete your post and come back to us when you have something objective and nuetral to say.

nuetral.....hmmmm, perhaps you mean neutral :pac:

grenache

I agree totally with TheSpecialOne and Browney. The jokers in the pack need to be dispensed with. What ever manager succeeds Justin, i don't want to see him selecting the likes of Donie Ryan or Stephen 'i spent seven years in UCD' Lucey. Blend the new starlets (Hickey, O'Mahony, James Ryan) with the young guys like Nicky Quaid and Cathal Mullane. Get rid of the wasters with big mouths and even bigger egos.

premierstone

Im always quite amazed when people are listing the ''jokers in the pack'' within Limerick hurling that Mark Foley seems to escape, because I got to tell you looking in from the outside this guy is the worst of them all, a fine hurler maybe in he's day but the guy has so many notions of himself im suprised he's able to fit he's head in the dressing room door, I have personally witnessed him ignore managers instructions on the field and to start making switches himself during a game, personally I feel untill he's gone permanently Limerick will never move on.

ShamoBuc

Of course the Jokers should go and not be allowed back, but, is every hurler in Limerick that is on strike a Joker or is a Pal/friend/squad/musketeer thing. Or simply a personality clash á la McCarhty in Cork recently.
Cork by 14+pts - although I hope it is competitive until at least half time.

grenache

premierstone wrote: »

Im always quite amazed when people are listing the ''jokers in the pack'' within Limerick hurling that Mark Foley seems to escape, because I got to tell you looking in from the outside this guy is the worst of them all, a fine hurler maybe in he's day but the guy has so many notions of himself im suprised he's able to fit he's head in the dressing room door, I have personally witnessed him ignore managers instructions on the field and to start making switches himself during a game, personally I feel untill he's gone permanently Limerick will never move on.

Mark Foley is gone, he's retired along with Ollie Moran. I met him (Foley) today in the passport office in South Mall. He's sound enough to talk to, but i have heard of all sorts of rumours of him encouraging certain players to pull out of the squad. Whether these are true or not i don't know. I would agree with you about him doing what he wants on the field, he switced from left to right half back in the Dublin quarter final last year when David Sweeney and Dotsy O'Callaghan were making lot of inroads down the left side of our defence. McCarthy said afterwords on the radio that it wasn't his decision to switch him, that it was a team decision!!

Orizio

Cork Team vs Limerick

Coleman

Shane O'Neill Cadogan Conor Sul

Brian Murphy Curran Ray Ryan

Tom Kenny John Gardiner

Fintan O'Leary Mark O'Sullivan Graham Callinan

Fraggie Murphy Michael Cussen Pa Horgan

Subs:

Donal Og Cusack - Cloyne
Shane Murphy - Erins Own
Aidan Ryan - Midleton
William Egan - Kilbrin
Michael Walsh - Kildorrey
Cian McCarthy - Sarsfields
Niall McCarthy - Carrigtwohill
Aisake O Hailpin - Na Piarsaigh
Tadgh Og Murphy - Sarsfields

Looks weak, don't rate Callinan as an inter-county hurler, weak center back line, still no Luke O'Farrell. Limerick by 5.

pajoguy

Our midfield will get eaten alive by Kenny and Gardiner!

eroo

I hope Limerick win - something the strikers/whingers could never manage when it mattered.

soccymonster

Orizio wrote: »

Looks weak, don't rate Callinan as an inter-county hurler, weak center back line, still no Luke O'Farrell. Limerick by 5.

your posts crack me up!

Limerick_Lass

Come on Limerick on Saturday...... show us some limerick promise... im sick of the past

liogairmhordain

cork 1-1 limerick 0-1, seven minutes in
cracker of a goal by michael cussen for cork

Cake Man

Both sides shooting poor. Limerick aren't as bad as I would have thought tho, that Alan O' Conner (no. 15 for Limerick) is handy enough and Lim's general work ethic is good.

liogairmhordain

cork 6 points up at half time
reminds me a bit of the waterford - dublin game last weekend
one team building up a lead without doing anything remarkable
typical "harmless" league hurling but still entertaining in its own way

liogairmhordain

ten minutes to go
cork 1-18 limerick 1-11

Aidric

A team of makeweights trying their best but being thoroughly outclassed by a Cork team in second gear. All played out in a soulless atmosphere more reminiscent of a wake. Trying times on shannonside.

KevIRL

Far from a great game, Cork didnt really have to break a sweat, unless Limerick sort things soon they will definitely get relegated, the wastelands of Div 2 will be hard on them.

I did manage to get the score bang on for the pools tho

soccymonster

Poor match. Both teams clocked up a crazy number of wides. justin could be leaving now....

Also hope michael carr gets better. Being taken off on a strecher during a match is not what any hurler would want. Anyone know what happened? I missed it.

liogairmhordain

after seeing brief highlights of last week's limerick-galway match on this morning's repeat of "seó spóirt" it looked like a decent crowd and atmosphere in kilmallock on sunday, the contrast with tonight's match was striking.
the hurling tonight wasn't that bad (2-21 to 1-14, that's 38 scores) but the atmosphere was just dead.
the vast swathes of empty seats in the gaelic grounds didnt do much for the occasion.

ShamoBuc

It looked like a ghost stadium, which was a pity. The result was a foregone conclusion long before the end, but credit to the Limerick lads, they did their best, but it will never be good enough for div.1 though.