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32 Dead in Madeira Storm

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    Su Campu wrote: »

    That first one is shocking.. shows the power of water


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    It was shocking, poor people of Madeira, must be in deep shock and sadness, it all looks tsunami like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭H2UMrsRobinson


    Su Campu wrote: »

    It looks terrifying...makes our little bit of snow look pathetic by comparison.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Ironically the reason for this is the fact that the jet stream is so far south. These are the depressions that should be effecting Ireland and would be normally.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Ironically the reason for this is the fact that the jet stream is so far south. These are the depressions that should be effecting Ireland and would be normally.

    I suppose it is even worse further south given the warmer air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭jambofc


    sad,very sad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    The day Madeira died.

    You have to look hard to see outline of island under that mass of cloud near centre of image.

    mtzR2yNzlRqNe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Some rainfall readings for Saturday morning:

    Funchal
    52mm from 9-10am, 108mm in 6 hours to 11am.

    Pico de Aeeiro (highest point, 1851m)
    58mm from 10-11am, 165mm in 6 hours to 11am

    The Portuguese Met Service have an article on it on their site (in Portuguese) http://www.meteo.pt/pt/otempo/comunicados/index.jsp

    The orographic lift in the warm sector was responsible for the enhanced rainfall. For anyone who's been to Madeira it's basically a steep mountain coming out of the sea, so there's nowhere for such rainfall to go but down. I was there a couple of years ago and can imagine the scene. A beautiful island dessimated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Su Campu wrote: »
    Some rainfall readings for Saturday morning:

    Funchal
    52mm from 9-10am, 108mm in 6 hours to 11am.

    Pico de Aeeiro (highest point, 1851m)
    58mm from 10-11am, 165mm in 6 hours to 11am

    The Portuguese Met Service have an article on it on their site (in Portuguese) http://www.meteo.pt/pt/otempo/comunicados/index.jsp

    The orographic lift in the warm sector was responsible for the enhanced rainfall. For anyone who's been to Madeira it's basically a steep mountain coming out of the sea, so there's nowhere for such rainfall to go but down. I was there a couple of years ago and can imagine the scene. A beautiful island dessimated.

    surely something like that would have happened before if it was down to that i.e. steep mountain? or were the rainfall amounts unprecedented?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    surely something like that would have happened before if it was down to that i.e. steep mountain? or were the rainfall amounts unprecedented?

    They just say the 6-hour Funchal rainfall was "above the 61-90 average"...which is pretty obvious I would have thought.

    I'm sure in the near future they will publish a study on it, as they've done in previous occasions.

    http://www.meteo.pt/pt/publicacoes/tecnico-cientif/noIM/casos_estudo/index.html

    I notice there have been no weather reports since the weekend, maybe communicatinos are down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    December and February were very wet months in Madeira. In February alone (up to the 22nd) 426mm of rainfall has fallen, that's 70% of the yearly average! :eek: And it's not going to get any better Friday, with a similar system set to develop in the area.

    http://www.meteo.pt/pt/media/noticias/newsdetail.html?f=/pt/media/noticias/textos/temporal_Madeira.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    It looks like there's more heavy rain heading for Madeira and then on to Spain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Thankfully there wasn't a repeat of last week. At Pico de Areeiro, (1818m), rainfall was pretty tame through the night in comparison, but look at the windspeeds at Caniçal/São Lourenço, located on the east coast, so probably subjected to Foehn winds.

    Pico do Aeeiro (1818m)
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    Caniçal/São Lourenço (east coast, near Airport)
    106338.png

    Ponta do sol (near sea level, southern coast)
    106339.png106340.png

    Santana (north coast)
    106342.png


    Looks a nice morning there now on the webcams

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Some bad weather this morning in the eastern part of the Azores, with the island of São Miguel registering some major rainfall and windspeeds. A schoolbus was washed away, with up to 4 deaths, depending on which reports you believe.


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    Ponte Delgada Airport
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    Açores (Nordeste)
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Just look at how suddenly the wind picked up at Santa Maria airport :eek: Light northerly breeze of 6 knots at 11am, then gale force 32 gusting 44 knots at 1130am, and 47 gusting 59 knots at 1230! :eek::eek:

    LPAZ 011400Z 35040G50KT 3000 RA BR FEW006 SCT010 09/08 Q0998
    LPAZ 011330Z 35044G54KT 3000 RA BR FEW006 SCT010 09/08 Q0997

    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]LPAZ 011300Z 35041G57KT 3000 -RA BR FEW006 SCT010 10/09 Q0997[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]LPAZ 011230Z 35047G59KT 1500 R36///// +RA BR SCT004 BKN010 09/09 Q0996[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]LPAZ 011200Z 35039G51KT 6000 -RA BR SCT004 BKN010 10/09 Q0995[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]LPAZ 011130Z 35032G44KT 3000 -RA BR SCT005 SCT008 10/09 Q0995[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]LPAZ 011100Z 01006KT 3000 RA BR SCT003 SCT012 12/11 Q0994[/FONT]
    [FONT=Monospace,Courier]LPAZ 011030Z 09005KT 9999 FEW004 SCT012 12/12 Q0994 RERA[/FONT]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    What direction is it tracking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    It's going to deepen slightly to around 984hPa as it moves eastwards over the next two days or so, filling before reaching the Portuguese coast, but still could bring showers and thunderstorms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Sat Mar 6th Midnight ALGARVE
    ModRainSwrsNight.gif Moderate or heavy rain shower
    15°c (59°f)
    SSE 20mph (32kph)

    3 am
    ModRainSwrsNight.gif Moderate or heavy rain shower
    15°c (59°f)
    South 17mph (27kph)

    6 am
    HeavyRain.gif Torrential rain shower
    15°c (59°f)
    South 16mph (26kph)

    9 am
    ModRainSwrsDay.gif Moderate or heavy rain shower
    16°c (61°f)
    SSE 19mph (31kph)

    Midday
    HeavyRain.gif Torrential rain shower
    17°c (63°f)
    SE 24mph (39kph)

    3 pm
    HeavyRain.gif Heavy rain
    17°c (63°f)
    ESE 22mph (35kph)

    6 pm
    HeavyRain.gif Heavy rain
    17°c (63°f)
    ESE 27mph (43kph)

    9 pm
    ModRain.gif Light rain
    16°c (61°f)
    ESE 28mph (45kph)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Cabra


    Just got back from Madeira today - weather mixed - alot of heavy rain at night -thunder & lightening etc. Sunshine and showers during the day, some days very overcast. Average daytime temperatures about 17 degrees c - night time about 15/16 degrees C. They've done an amazing job cleaning up Funchal but the scale of the damage is still very clear - roads and bridges are missing and the lido on Funchal has been completely destroyed. They are very resilient and everyone seems to have got involved in working to get the place back to normal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    I've just seen confirmation that 387mm of rain fell from 02:40 - 17:30 (15 hours) in a mountain station during that spell in Madeira on February 20th. That's well over a foot of rain, or if you like, about half of Dublin's annual rainfall!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 jgjkl


    that`s horrible


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