Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Cordoba

digme

keane=cock

fitting to put this career defining fight up today.

love him or hate him. you can not take away what the man did that night.

guts skills power and pride.

walshb

Physically this was his best performance; the funny thing is, it was this fight that took more from Dunne than any other, and would have weighed in when
he was making his decision. Not many boxers have that many of these wars in them. The PK loss was brutal, but quick. Kiko too. Rd 5 was hellacious, loved seeing Dunne out on his feet and STILL throwing a wallop at the bell, great stuff. That was his night.

I Drink It Up!

The rotten thing is that before Jimmy Magee dies, he will declare this to be as special and as significant as that night in Loftus Road when a real fighter beat another real fighter for a real title.

walshb

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

The rotten thing is that before Jimmy Magee dies, he will declare this to be as special and as significant as that night in Loftus Road when a real fighter beat another real fighter for a real title.

You were in school with Dunne, weren't you?

Did he steal your lunch money? Anyway, he did well for a guy who I never rated all that high, and still don't. He showed me more in his fight vs. Cordoba than in any of his previous bouts. He went from being very average
to above average/good. He never quite topped world class, even though he had one win over a top rated guy, I want more before I will call him or any other fighter world class.

Had Mr McGuigan failed vs. Laporte, he too wouldn't be getting the nod from me as world class. He passed that test and many other stiff tests, plus he was top ten rated for three consecutive years. He also won the WBA featherweight title from one of boxings best ever feathers.

joepenguin

walshb wrote: »

You were in school with Dunne, weren't you?

Did he steal your lunch money? Anyway, he did well for a guy who I never rated all that high, and still don't. He showed me more in his fight vs. Cordoba than in any of his previous bouts. He went from being very average
to above average/good. He never quite topped world class, even though he had one win over a top rated guy, I want more before I will call him or any other fighter world class.

Had Mr McGuigan failed vs. Laporte, he too wouldn't be getting the nod from me as world class. He passed that test and many other stiff tests, plus he was top ten rated for three consecutive years. He also won the WBA featherweight title from one of boxings best ever feathers.

He wasnt quite as good as McGuigan but i think its fair to say that he cracked world class at the tail end of his career. Not that he was dominant in his division but there was a point in time when anything but world title bouts were a step below.

For me Bernard Dunne spent most of his career at fringe world level, but he peaked at world level, even if it was just about, and relatively brief.

joepenguin

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

The rotten thing is that before Jimmy Magee dies, he will declare this to be as special and as significant as that night in Loftus Road when a real fighter beat another real fighter for a real title.

First of all... Jimmys a ledg!!!
Secondly, rest assured, that the 21st of March 2009 will go down in history as one of the very best nights of Irish sport!!!

If there was no belt on the line it still would have been as special. We had a fellow Irishman taking a huge step up in class, and get a victory in a fight of the year candidate.

The words world class and world champ are thrown around alot in boxing. Consider this... On the 21st of March 2009 Irelands Bernard Dunne proved himself to be one of the best boxers in the entire world at 122lbs.

I Drink It Up!

joepenguin wrote: »

First of all... Jimmys a ledg!!!
Secondly, rest assured, that the 21st of March 2009 will go down in history as one of the very best nights of Irish sport!!!

If there was no belt on the line it still would have been as special. We had a fellow Irishman taking a huge step up in class, and get a victory in a fight of the year candidate.

The words world class and world champ are thrown around alot in boxing. Consider this... On the 21st of March 2009 Irelands Bernard Dunne proved himself to be one of the best boxers in the entire world at 122lbs.

It will....but it shouldn't. Thats the point. We are going backwards. Next thing you know we will rehabilitating Michelle Smith.:rolleyes:

Most kids dont even know Carruth whipped a Cuban for Gold in Barcelona.

If they do...they don't even know how significant it was.

I mean...McCullough won the WBC Bantam Title. That is so massive. It's a huge, huge thing. And half the country doesn't know about it.

Carruth Barcelona > Dunne Cordoba. Phact.

joepenguin

I Drink It Up! wrote: »

It will....but it shouldn't. Thats the point. We are going backwards. Next thing you know we will rehabilitating Michelle Smith.:rolleyes:

Most kids dont even know Carruth whipped a Cuban for Gold in Barcelona.

If they do...they don't even know how significant it was.

I mean...McCullough won the WBC Bantam Title. That is so massive. It's a huge, huge thing. And half the country doesn't know about it.

Carruth Barcelona > Dunne Cordoba. Phact.

Hahahaha, it shouldnt? lol. Ok, I disagree and think it should :rolleyes:
Olympic gold is the pinnacle of sport imo and i agree with you on that one. McCulloughs title win is considered better as well. I am not saying Dunne is the best Irish boxer ever or anything. If you want to compare, open a comparison thread to state your phacts.

Oh and btw, McCulloughs win was significant because he went into Yakushijis back yard and took the title from him. Considered the best bantam in the world. The fact that it was the wbc belt matter very little.

walshb

joepenguin wrote: »

He wasnt quite as good as McGuigan but i think its fair to say that he cracked world class at the tail end of his career. Not that he was dominant in his division but there was a point in time when anything but world title bouts were a step below.

For me Bernard Dunne spent most of his career at fringe world level, but he peaked at world level, even if it was just about, and relatively brief.

He wasn't close to Barry, no disprespct, but had these two met, remember, 4 lbs in the diference, Dunne moves up; I say a rd, maybe two at most before Dunne is broken in half. Also, career wise, it is also not close.

BTW, just to say, I also think Wayne gets taken out by Barry at feather, just not as easy.

Anyway, 2 fights in 8 years against top ten with a 50 percent record. Okay, if these are the standards to be considered world or fringe world class, then so be it.

gmkgreaney

theres an awful lot of bitnerness&jellousy about bernard dunnes success, i remember the night he was fighting poonsowat and there was lots of cheering in the pub where i was watching when he got stopped, me personally i was disgusted , i know for a fact that if bernard dunne wasnt a dub he would have been liked more in ireland, and before ye go saying anythan im not from dublin.

walshb

gmkgreaney wrote: »

theres an awful lot of bitnerness&jellousy about bernard dunnes success, i remember the night he was fighting poonsowat and there was lots of cheering in the pub where i was watching when he got stopped, me personally i was disgusted , i know for a fact that if bernard dunne wasnt a dub he would have been liked more in ireland, and before ye go saying anythan im not from dublin.

Those were just ****, anti Dubs more than likely. This occurs all over the place and not just with Dunne and boxing.
Although, there were probaly Dubs too cheering when he lost. I was at the fight and many there were not
boxing fans and were slating the chap when he lost.

Probably the same mentality as those that would cheer for Man Utd vs. Bohemians and then when England play they are booing and roaring abuse at the English team. Morons!