Trinity team win Irish Times debate final

Tenderloins1

Just in from the Irish Times debate finals. Trinity pair of Niamh Ni Mhaoileoin and Niall Sherry won the best team and deservedly so.
Niamh was especially good.

Tricity Bendix

This Niall Sherry sounds like one stand up bloke. A real cool cat. Maybe not the hero we want, but the hero we need. Congratulations.

Awayindahils

Shay is utter amaze balls!!! Well bloody done to him and Niamh!!!

w00p! Wish I could have been there, but I did scream down an apartment block when I found out and then screamed down the phone at Shay for a while!!!

Yay go Trinity, but more so go Niall and Niamh!

Also its a four in a row for the Hist!

SligoBrewer

/goes off to facebook stalk shay.

Denerick

Well done to all involved.

oogyoop

Delighted!

Incidentally, Niamh's dad won this competition yeeears ago! A golden tongue must run in the family.

amacachi

Fair play.

shay_562

Tenderloins1 wrote:

Niamh was especially good.

She really was, wasn't she?

I'm absolutely destroyed today (appropriately enough, I have *completely* lost my voice) but so, so happy! Wooooooooop!!

The Walsho

Congrats guys, fair play.

Time Magazine

shay_562 wrote: »

She really was, wasn't she?

I'm absolutely destroyed today (appropriately enough, I have *completely* lost my voice) but so, so happy! Wooooooooop!!

Congratulations, very well done

andrew

Huzzah!

REPSOC1916

Congratulations to both of them.

P.S. Just a pity David Trimble was chairing the debate.

Time Magazine

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

P.S. Just a pity David Trimble was chairing the debate.

And why is that?

Brian

Any recordings of the proceedings? Well done Niall.

shay_562

Baza210 wrote: »

Any recordings of the proceedings?

Possibly some highlights going up on the IT website in the next while. I'm also trying to get hold of DCU Media Soc's recording of it, though no promises on me actual posting it until I'm sure it's not utterly cringeworthy.

Sid_Justice

well done

Awayindahils

shay_562 wrote: »

Possibly some highlights going up on the IT website in the next while. I'm also trying to get hold of DCU Media Soc's recording of it, though no promises on me actual posting it until I'm sure it's not utterly cringeworthy.

Wimp. You won, if you are cringe worthy no other student in the country is worth listening too. Its a bit late for modesty.

shay_562

Awayindahils wrote: »

Wimp. You won, if you are cringe worthy no other student in the country is worth listening too. Its a bit late for modesty.

Wimp? Oh, absolutely. It's not modesty, Hils, it's that whole 'your voice doesn't sound like your voice when you hear it' effect that makes listening back to speeches really bizarre, I can only imagine watching them back is worse. I'm sure it's at minimum watchable as speeches go; I'm just not sure I won't want to burn every copy of it when I see it Makes total sense in my head anyway...

Awayindahils

shay_562 wrote: »

Wimp? Oh, absolutely. It's not modesty, Hils, it's that whole 'your voice doesn't sound like your voice when you hear it' effect that makes listening back to speeches really bizarre, I can only imagine watching them back is worse. I'm sure it's at minimum watchable as speeches go; I'm just not sure I won't want to burn every copy of it when I see it Makes total sense in my head anyway...

:rolleyes:

That is what I meant.

You shoulde done Jacs class, those podcasts were shameful.

Brian

Apparently I sound like Stephen Hawking on Skype so I'm sure you're not too bad.

Pet

shay_562 wrote: »

Wimp? Oh, absolutely. It's not modesty, Hils, it's that whole 'your voice doesn't sound like your voice when you hear it' effect that makes listening back to speeches really bizarre, I can only imagine watching them back is worse. I'm sure it's at minimum watchable as speeches go; I'm just not sure I won't want to burn every copy of it when I see it Makes total sense in my head anyway...

Prepare yourself, especially if there's video, too. Watching myself on RTE was one of the most traumatic experiences of the past year. I was peeking out behind my fingers and making constant "ARGH!" noises throughout.

ARGH, again, now that I remember it.

REPSOC1916

Time Magazine wrote: »

And why is that?

I don't like right-wing tory unionists; especially him. Just a minor criticism on my part that's all. Then again the Irish Times is becoming increasingly more unionist in it's outlook on the North with John Bruton others calling for the abolishment of power-sharing in the North.

Time Magazine

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

I don't like right-wing tory unionists.

It was a debating competition. You know, where the other team argue an opposing view.

Complaining about the judge because you "don't like" people who hold opposing views to you is very, very funny.

REPSOC1916

Eh they could've gotten someone more neutral (someone from the Alliance Party prehaps or someone from Labour; I'm thinking Ivana Bacnik) rather than who holds the opinion that we'd be better off under the union jack.

shay_562

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

Eh they could've gotten someone more neutral (someone from the Alliance Party prehaps or someone from Labour; I'm thinking Ivana Bacnik) rather than who holds the opinion that we'd be better off under the union jack.

Chair =/= judge. The chair is the guy who chairs the debate (hence the name), calling each speaker to the podium and putting the motion to the house afterwards. They tend to give some of their own thoughts on the debate, but you'll never get anyone entirely neutral (or if you did, it'd likely be because they had no connection to the issue being debated, which would make their chair speech kinda pointless). As it was, Trimble was genial and despite a few light-hearted cracks didn't exactly call for overthrow of the Irish government. It really seems like your problem here is less "The chair was biased!" and more "The chair was a Unionist!", which is subtly different and much less defensible.

Time Magazine

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

Eh they could've gotten someone more neutral (someone from the Alliance Party prehaps or someone from Labour; I'm thinking Ivana Bacnik) rather than who holds the opinion that we'd be better off under the union jack.

Bacik? Neutral?

Are you fucking mental?

I'd have no problems with either chairing a debate. But if you're looking for someone neutral, don't suggest the most vocal advocate for abortion in the country ffs.

Denerick

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

I don't like right-wing tory unionists; especially him. Just a minor criticism on my part that's all. Then again the Irish Times is becoming increasingly more unionist in it's outlook on the North with John Bruton others calling for the abolishment of power-sharing in the North.

Why is that some Trinity students feel a need to compensate for their genteel middle class Dublin background by playing at left wing socialist republicanism? Grow up son. Grow up.

Tricity Bendix

shay_562 wrote: »

Chair =/= judge. The chair is the guy who chairs the debate (hence the name), calling each speaker to the podium and putting the motion to the house afterwards. They tend to give some of their own thoughts on the debate, but you'll never get anyone entirely neutral (or if you did, it'd likely be because they had no connection to the issue being debated, which would make their chair speech kinda pointless). As it was, Trimble was genial and despite a few light-hearted cracks didn't exactly call for overthrow of the Irish government. It really seems like your problem here is less "The chair was biased!" and more "The chair was a Unionist!", which is subtly different and much less defensible.

No wonder you won.

REPSOC1916

shay_562 wrote: »

Chair =/= judge. The chair is the guy who chairs the debate (hence the name), calling each speaker to the podium and putting the motion to the house afterwards. They tend to give some of their own thoughts on the debate, but you'll never get anyone entirely neutral (or if you did, it'd likely be because they had no connection to the issue being debated, which would make their chair speech kinda pointless). As it was, Trimble was genial and despite a few light-hearted cracks didn't exactly call for overthrow of the Irish government. It really seems like your problem here is less "The chair was biased!" and more "The chair was a Unionist!", which is subtly different and much less defensible.

I'll conceed. Still I just don't like unionists.

Denerick wrote: »

Why is that some Trinity students feel a need to compensate for their genteel middle class Dublin background by playing at left wing socialist republicanism? Grow up son. Grow up.

Eh I grew up and went to school in Clare. And don't call me middle class.

Denerick

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

And don't call me middle class.

Shut up.