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LIDL Jacks and stands coming up again

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    #2
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Recent threads indicate theres a herd of negative posts coming this way in spite of these things adhereing to safety standards.


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    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    I bought both the stands and the jack a few years ago from Lidl. No problems at all.

    They adhere to the TUV safety standards anyway.


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    uncle-mofo
    Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭uncle-mofo


    To be honest lads, I wouldn't cheap out on axle stands. It's not like any other part where it's a bit of a hassle if it fails, if those stands were to slip you're dead.


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    robtri
    Registered Users Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    uncle-mofo wrote: »
    To be honest lads, I wouldn't cheap out on axle stands. It's not like any other part where it's a bit of a hassle if it fails, if those stands were to slip you're dead.

    but if they are built to the same standards as more expensive stands..... it better than getting ripped off :)


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    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    The kids have enough Meccano to play with with out any more. :pac:


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    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    tuv

    http://www.tuvps.co.uk/home_en/industries/professional_electronics/product_certification2

    although the screen rain off thingy was crap


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    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,050 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Someone start a CT thread on this please. "The sneaky Germans are trying to eliminate DIY mechanics.....".

    Rtdh, maybe you could oblige?

    Not your ornery onager



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    brendansmith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    The kids have enough Meccano to play with with out any more. :pac:


    What a crap joke. Really really crap.


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    Gitb1
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭Gitb1


    brendansmith wrote: »
    What a crap joke. Really really crap.

    That was a joke?? I dont get it..:confused:


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    Magown3
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Magown3


    I was servicing the car last year, using a pair of axle stands bought from Lidl.

    Jacked the car up on one side, put under axle stands, did the same to the other side, noticed a bit of sideways movement but didnt' think anything of it.. Serviced car. Let down one side of the car and there was an aweful lot of loud creaking! When I jacked up the other side to release the stand, the stand itself slumped to one side. The weld in the internal tube/pipe had failed on one of the legs!! I have a feeling this happened when jacking UP the car so i was pretty lucky to get away with it.

    This was only the second time they were used.

    If you're buying. Check the welds internally first and see what you think of them... They don't look like the best welds I've ever seen (big balls of it, non uniform, some to the left/right of where they should be)


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    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Magown3 wrote: »
    I was servicing the car last year, using a pair of axle stands bought from Lidl.

    Jacked the car up on one side, put under axle stands, did the same to the other side, noticed a bit of sideways movement but didn't' think anything of it.. Serviced car. Let down one side of the car and there was an awful lot of loud creaking! When I jacked up the other side to release the stand, the stand itself slumped to one side. The weld in the internal tube/pipe had failed on one of the legs!! I have a feeling this happened when jacking UP the car so i was pretty lucky to get away with it.

    This was only the second time they were used.

    If you're buying. Check the welds internally first and see what you think of them... They don't look like the best welds I've ever seen (big balls of it, non uniform, some to the left/right of where they should be)
    You are very luck you didn't end up wearing a wooden overcoat.

    Anything that involves structure or support that a life depends on should be only be welded by a qualified or coded welder and not someone working in a sweatshop earning minimum wage in with a mig.

    I have done basic welding serving my time and can at least tell the difference between a "flit" that has penetration and a "snot". Most of the cheaper DIY type axle stands are held together with "snots".


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    JoeySully
    Registered Users Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭JoeySully


    Magown3 wrote: »
    I was servicing the car last year, using a pair of axle stands bought from Lidl.

    Jacked the car up on one side, put under axle stands, did the same to the other side, noticed a bit of sideways movement but didnt' think anything of it..

    These are not supposed to be used in this way ! If you read the instructions properly. Using 2 together should only be done one one side of the car.
    Mind you I have also done this myself but have found that the one on the opposite side can be pushed sideways which is a pressure i think they were not designed for.


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    T-Maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Axle stands are always to be used in pairs, simultaneously, in front or in the rear.

    They are designed to withstand vertical force only, not horizontally.


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    neilthefunkeone
    Registered Users Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭neilthefunkeone


    uncle-mofo wrote: »
    To be honest lads, I wouldn't cheap out on axle stands. It's not like any other part where it's a bit of a hassle if it fails, if those stands were to slip you're dead.

    If any axle stands were to slip you would be dead... that is the most stupid point..

    Ive had these for a couple of years now.. many a car has been on them and never a problem.. They conform with all safety standards as much as the expensive brands..


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    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Whatever about the axle stands, their 6 Euro telescopic wheel brace is well worth buying (and keeping in the car)


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    Raiser
    Registered Users Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Any bit of kit that you use that could fail and cause injury or fatality should be checked regularly for signs of damage or wear etc.

    - German made kit tends to be fairly no-nonsense and durably functional; Nobody on here could convince me than anything else is better or safer simply because it cost more to purchase.


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I have them a while, hasn't killed me yet *touch wood*


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    pounder770
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭pounder770


    i'm still alive too....apparently!;)


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    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Bought these in Halfords in Newry on the way back from Belfast.

    Extremely solid, seemingly well made, have a very good range of height adjustment and held my 1700kg car up for 6 hours with nary a bother.

    Well worth it!


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    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Tragedy wrote: »
    Bought these in Halfords in Newry on the way back from Belfast.
    I have those, and wish I hadn't. I've got the bit of skin between my thumb and index finger caught on the whilst unratcheting a couple of times, and they're cumbersome to store as the stand doesn't fold up, unlike the Lidl ones.


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    JHMEG
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    peasant wrote: »
    Whatever about the axle stands, their 6 Euro telescopic wheel brace is well worth buying (and keeping in the car)

    That's unbelieveably handy, not only for loosening lug nuts, but for opening/loosening brake calipers and even the driveshaft nut when doing a CV joint.


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    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    How? I just pull the lever and let the arm drop to the ground, don't try catch it or anything.

    I just keep them in their box with the arms lying between them, it's handy as I can feck my wheel chocks in their too!


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    nogoodnamesleft
    Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭nogoodnamesleft


    I have a pair of the axel stands and they are grand, never gave an ounce of trouble. One thing I did notice about the jack thou, I was recently checking the top suspension arms on the car for play so had the car jacked up for a few mins, I also put a spare wheel under it just incase as the car was on the trolley jack.

    The jack does drop quiet significantly over the space of a few mins! Something to be aware of and also to point out the importance of using axel stands and not to go under the car while supported by the jack alone. The trolley jack was rated to 2 tonnes and the car was 1700kg.


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    snowman707
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    dont know about the stands but we have a couple of the jacks have lifted over 3000kgs with 1 of them , not very high, just enough to get a bottle jack under the axle, on one of trailers.


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    kodak
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭kodak


    No expert on axel stands but here is a good alternative, in my view, if you are a bit concerned over Lidl's ones...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-64431-Ratchet-Style-Stands/dp/B0001K9Z50/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1266617670&sr=8-1-fkmr0

    Draper ones for 18/19 Euro.

    They have a SWL of 2 tonne PER stand..

    You get free delivery if you spend over £25..

    They look better than the Lidl ones and I'll be ordering them next time I buying off amamzon.

    Anybody any reviews?


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    #27
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    A couple of cinder blocks under the car also suffice. ;)


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    #28
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    ....seeing as we're talking LIDL, I see THESE which are worth a punt......or 3.99 :D

    For what you say ? Any one who's ever had to make a gasket for something, and cut those pesky bolt-holes (especially on 'bikes, which have a lot of such holes ...), they beat the **** out of faffing about with a knife.....

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #29
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Good thinking.


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    #30
    robtri
    Registered Users Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    very clever thinking


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