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The Truth of The Lie

  • 18-02-2010 12:50pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭


    It's no wonder that the McCann's are trying to block a book coming out about their "missing" daughter. The book was written by the investigating officer and he reveals some facts that were not allowed as evidence.

    The investigation uses two very special dogs that are used by the English and North American police, that have successfully solved over 200 cases. These include the murder of Attracta Harron, an Irishwoman who went missing. The police and the forensic scientists were unsuccessful in finding out what happened to her. The investigators then brought in Eddie, one of the two dogs that were in Portugal, that identified a carbonised piece in the suspect’s car. That piece contained DNA from the missing woman. The dogs that were brought in to help the investigation are great investigators. Eddie is a dog that specialises in finding dead victims and marking locations where dead people have been. Keela is able to detect human blood in such tiny amounts that they elude the investigators.

    The dog that marks (alerts to) human cadaver odour marked cadaver odour in this corner, the doors were open when the test was made, and after walking around the parents’ bedroom, he placed his nose in here and marked this area. So according to the expert, a cadaver was here, either on the shelf or on the floor.

    Eddie also detected the odour of death behind the sofa in the apartment’s living room. Keela is brought in, and she points out a small amount of blood behind that same sofa.

    25.49 – At the time when the area behind the sofa was cleaned, there is a body being transported to this location, or it was kept here for a while. That is the indication that exists, there was no blood here, contrary to what was found behind the sofa, and there is the marking that a cadaver was here [indicating the wardrobe shelves].

    26.34 – The dogs’ investigation continues. They inspect several vehicles, and they only alert to the car that was hired by the McCanns 23 days after Madeleine’s disappearance. Eddie alerts that the car key and the boot had been in contact with a dead body.

    27.01 – Keela discovers organic traces for analysis in the boot.

    27.23 – The dogs’ reaction is revealing. These dogs have never failed in over 200 cases. The dogs marked two spots in the house: The wardrobe in the parents’ bedroom, and behind the living room sofa.

    27.40 – They also signalled the car, that had been rented by the McCanns 23 days after the facts, as well as Kate’s clothes and Madeleine’s soft toy.

    27.58 – How was it possible to find a soft toy with cadaver smell in a bed that was not marked by the dogs, and with no indications of Madeleine having slept in it? The dogs’ work could hardly be more revealing.

    28.31 – Two weeks ago, there was a radical change in the investigation, tiny traces of blood were found in the apartment. When you heard that the police had found blood in the apartment, how did you react?

    29.23 – This is the turnaround in the investigation. The abduction theory becomes less likely than the child’s death. The parents, friends and relatives become suspects.

    40.04 – The witness who lived near the McCanns’ second home, in Aldeia da Luz, who says she witnessed an uncommon fact about the McCanns’ hire car, where the dogs detected cadaver odour and remains that may belong to Maddie, was not heard, either. This neighbour has signed a document authorising the broadcast of her deposition that identifies her, but fearing threats and pressures, she doesn’t show her face.

    40.30 – This is an interesting matter, when I left the Criminal Investigation Department in Portimão, in October 2007, nothing was known about this vehicle, about this issue of the open car boot. We knew that inside the vehicle cadaver odour and bodily fluids had been found, where Madeleine McCann’s DNA profile was extracted from, with 15 alleles. Months later, there is a jurist, who lives nearby, who came to report that after the McCanns arrived at this villa, they saw the car boot open from then on.

    41.09 – I drive down this street every day to turn my car around at that end, and every time that I passed the house, and I looked at the car, and the car always had an open boot door, day or night. I often passed at night, and always verified it. It was a fact, I reported it, and that was it.
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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    Do you have a Les Paul? I'd fcuking love one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭Xluna


    People die every few minutes from lack of food. I'm sick of hearing about this kid. Seriously,it's as if the second coming had been abducted by Doctor evil so she won't be able to stop the Demon King ending the world. Get over it people!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    already a topic on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Xluna wrote: »
    Seriously,it's as if the second coming had been abducted by Doctor evil

    I shall call her Mini-me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Do you have a Les Paul? I'd fcuking love one


    I have, neh neh! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    mikom wrote: »
    I shall call her Mini-me.

    ...surely you mean Maddie-me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    What an oxy-moronic title to have for a thread.


    tl;dr, but if dogs said it then it must be true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Exactly! Eddie's got shit on them, Eddie knows the score... :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    It's no wonder that the McCann's are trying to block a book coming out about their "missing" daughter. The book was written by the investigating officer and he reveals some facts that were not allowed as evidence.
    Or... and I know, it's the stuff of wild fantasy, but maybe they just don't want a macabre book being published about their missing (no quote marks required) little girl?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Attracta Harron? lol :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    The "investigator" who wrote that book also beat a confession out of another mother who's daughter went missing, seriously google it. That "police man" is a f*cking scumbag of the highest order, the McCann's have put with horrible **** from the police in Portugal. The reason they've managed to get high court injunctions against him for other books is that he's a f*cking nutjob and is completely unprofessional and a money-grabber out to make a quick buck off other's pain, if I was religous I'd be praying for him to burn in hell.

    I hope that they find that Madeline McCann alive soon. The amount of people that piss me off saying "oh there's so many abused, starving children in the world, why are we all so caught up in Madeleine McCann", how can anyone say that? The reason we're caught up in it is because the day we stop caring about stuff like that is the day we should just nuke the world and be done with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The old starving babies is always a good ruse for plain not caring, isn't it.

    I assume that all the people that selflessly alert us to the fact that x amount of x dies in x every x are themselves working tirelessly to prevent this while us poor saps are selfishly dissipating our energy worrying about one child.

    Same people that endlessly debate a couple of million going to Africa from a charity record (even if the people involved are self-serving spas) but their sole contribution to said problem is a load of gaseous bilge emanating from a pub snug.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I'm a strat man myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I'm a strat man myself.

    Some may call it a tin-can, but I always be a Rickenbacker man. Even on looks alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    God yeah, those toss-pots who whinge about Geldof because "Band Aid/Live Aid didn't achieve that much"... um, as opposed to what?

    Madeleine is being focused on because we KNOW about her, not because she's more valuable than an anonymous trafficked Thai child. And individual stories are more powerful than group stats. Not fair, but that's human nature for ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    The reason we're caught up in it is because the day we stop caring about stuff like that is the day we should just nuke the world and be done with it.

    The day we care about one little white girl and completely ignore everything that is going on in say, Africa, is the day we shoudl just nuke Africa and be done with it.

    As to human nature, sure we feel bad about things we can relate too, and we feel worse about cute madeline than we feel about those millions of other dying people.

    But we also feel worse about a dog we can see and touch than we do about all those africans. If we use our feelings as our only moral compass then we may aswell just take heroin instead of helping people. If the only reason for us to help pepole is to alleviate bad feelings brought on by empathy, then it is much more efficient to not care, or simply ignore it.

    If on the otherhand, a person has a rationally based moral system, and helps people because "suffering is bad". Then it doesn't stand to reason why we should give this one person any specific attention. So yes, people dying in africa is a brilliant reason not to give a shnit about madelline mcann. At least it's a reason, and not just some release of chemicals. You apes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    The "investigator" who wrote that book also beat a confession out of another mother who's daughter went missing, seriously google it. That "police man" is a f*cking scumbag of the highest order, the McCann's have put with horrible **** from the police in Portugal. The reason they've managed to get high court injunctions against him for other books is that he's a f*cking nutjob and is completely unprofessional and a money-grabber out to make a quick buck off other's pain, if I was religous I'd be praying for him to burn in hell.

    .
    Do you know anything about that case? This is the story of the 'mother' who's daughter (Joana) went missing...
    Joana disappeared, presumed murdered, in the Algarve village of Figueira, near Portimão. She was last seen buying food from a nearby café on the evening of September 12 last year. Prosecutors charge that she came home to find her mother, 34-year-old Leonor Cipriano, and her uncle, 32-year-old João Cipriano, having sex. Fearful that Joana would relate the incident to her stepfather, they allege that the couple decided to kill her. The prosecution also said that the couple had repeatedly mistreated Joana, recounting that she was little more than a “servant” in her own household.

    The court heard a catalogue of horrifying details, including an earlier video taped confession from Joana’s uncle in which he related the circumstances of his niece’s murder. This video testimony is now the subject of an appeal
    from the defence team who claim it should be excluded because the couple exercised their right to remain silent during the trial. In the taped confession, João Cipriano said he and his sister hit Joana who then banged her head against a wall before collapsing, unconscious, onto the floor. João Cipriano claimed that he had wanted to call an ambulance but that his sister prevented him, telling him instead to go to Joana’s stepfather and inform him that she had disappeared.



    Her mother made subsequent public appeals for her daughter’s safe return, claiming that she had been kidnapped. But authorities began to suspect the couple after villagers noted their allegedly offhand reaction to Joana’s disappearance.The couple received 16 year sentences.
    What the report doesn't say is the mother waited 2 days before she notified the police.
    During that time she washed her house down with petrol.Blood was found in the freezer belonging to Joana which the mother claimed came from a nose bleed after she had given Joana a beating.


    None of that made the British tabloids. That woman is a scumbag of the highest order who deserved a beating.


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