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Is it possible to do a h.dip by distance?

  • 18-02-2010 3:14am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭


    As it states in the title, is it?

    I have a:

    Bachelor's Degree (ordinary) in Business Studies & Management (2:1)
    Bachelor's Degree (Honours) in Business Studies & Marketing (1:1)
    Master's Degree (M.SC) In Marketing and Entrepreneurship (2:1)

    I have also taught English (TEFL) in South Korea sor 18 months, between graduating from my honours degree and starting my master's degree.

    The reason I am asking if it is possible to do the h.dip by distance is that I will be going back out to Korea next week to work for another year (couldn't find work here and my old boss invited me back out there to work again).

    I would like to make a start on the h.dip by distance if it was possible and have quite a bit of it completed whe I come home next March. I wouldn't like to have to come home next march and have to wait until September to start the course. Oh and I am 25 now so I'm getting on a bit, I would be 27 if I had to wait until September 2011.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    cloneslad wrote: »
    As it states in the title, is it?

    I have a:

    Bachelor's Degree (ordinary) in Business Studies & Management (2:1)
    Bachelor's Degree (Honours) in Business Studies & Marketing (1:1)
    Master's Degree (M.SC) In Marketing and Entrepreneurship (2:1)

    I have also taught English (TEFL) in South Korea sor 18 months, between graduating from my honours degree and starting my master's degree.

    The reason I am asking if it is possible to do the h.dip by distance is that I will be going back out to Korea next week to work for another year (couldn't find work here and my old boss invited me back out there to work again).

    I would like to make a start on the h.dip by distance if it was possible and have quite a bit of it completed whe I come home next March. I wouldn't like to have to come home next march and have to wait until September to start the course. Oh and I am 25 now so I'm getting on a bit, I would be 27 if I had to wait until September 2011.

    Thanks


    I doubt it very much as teaching practice is a huge part of the PGDE (formerly H Dip). There is a two-year PGDE in DCU which facilitates people who want to work during it, but again these people must have their teaching practice inspected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Thanks.

    I figured it was a long shot. I was kind of hoping I might be able to take some of the modules online and then do the teaching practice when I came back in March time or so.

    I knew it was a long shot, but they should really make this an option (not because it's a good idea or in anyway going to be a success for them...just cos I want it :p)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    there's distance PGCE's in the UK. You have to do your school placement at some stage but you can get some of the study out of the way beforehand. I think the university of nottingham and edge hill near Liverpool do it anyway, although wouldn't be certain on what subjects. Open university do a distance pgce as well.

    Google 'GTTR' for the list of courses. Be careful that the teaching council here will recognise your pgce from the UK. I think they look for the 11 - 18 ones. There may also be an issue with getting the honours rate of pay when you are working here. You will probably get it eventually but have to fight for it.

    I think those UK flexible PGCE's have enrolment every 4 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭livinginkorea


    cloneslad wrote: »
    Thanks.

    I figured it was a long shot. I was kind of hoping I might be able to take some of the modules online and then do the teaching practice when I came back in March time or so.

    I knew it was a long shot, but they should really make this an option (not because it's a good idea or in anyway going to be a success for them...just cos I want it :p)

    How about a distance MA in TESOL/TEFL? There are loads of them which offer courses nowadays with seminars in Korea or the option to do some modules in Korea and the remainder inhouse. Depends, of course on what you want to do in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    How about a distance MA in TESOL/TEFL? There are loads of them which offer courses nowadays with seminars in Korea or the option to do some modules in Korea and the remainder inhouse. Depends, of course on what you want to do in the future.


    I'm not really interested in TEFL as a career. I would prefer to work as a secondary level teacher or perhaps get into lecturing in the future. I have a masters degree and really don't want to do another one.

    I should have done the h.dip / PGDE prior to doing the masters as I could have gotten a grant for it as a mature student but and then I could have also gotten my masters couvered as it would have been progression to a higher level, as it is, I will have to pay for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    cloneslad wrote: »
    I should have done the h.dip / PGDE prior to doing the masters as I could have gotten a grant for it as a mature student but and then I could have also gotten my masters couvered as it would have been progression to a higher level, as it is, I will have to pay for it.

    I was the same and I've had to find the €6500 out of my own funds. Still, I've reduced that by about €3000 through a variety of means, including a tax refund on my tuition fee of €1300. You are much better doing the PGDE and getting the qualification under your belt and moving on with your life.

    I sent my CV to a few places in Britain today and they were all plámás saying there's no end of jobs at the moment once you have the PGDE. I don't know yet.

    UCG have a Block PGDE system where you go to Uni for a few months or something at a time and teach solid for a few months or something. Not sure how it works, but it may be another option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Dionysus wrote: »
    I was the same and I've had to find the €6500 out of my own funds. Still, I've reduced that by about €3000 through a variety of means, including a tax refund on my tuition fee of €1300. You are much better doing the PGDE and getting the qualification under your belt and moving on with your life.

    I sent my CV to a few places in Britain today and they were all plámás saying there's no end of jobs at the moment once you have the PGDE. I don't know yet.

    UCG have a Block PGDE system where you go to Uni for a few months or something at a time and teach solid for a few months or something. Not sure how it works, but it may be another option.


    The one in Galway does sound quite good. I should be able to save quite a bit in Korea for when I come home, (definitely enough to cover the fees)then hopefully get a job in Ireland when I come home until I do the PGDE, if I decide to do it, and be able to afford living expenses.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,345 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I believe there is a quota on people with business degrees being accepted, so check that out too.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,618 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    I've heard some talk of Hibernia starting up a distance PGDE, somewhat similar to the primary one they have at the moment. But, the chances of them fitting your schedule of wanting to do the study first, teach after is unlikely. Normally it's study, TP, study then TP again.
    Also, I'm not trying to start up the 'which is better' thing again, but I know from many sources that principals prefer people who have regular diplomas, not online ones. It's like online dating, just as good really, but still has an online stigma. The job situation is tough anyway, tougher for business teachers so the least you should do is get the most sought after Dip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Tbh OP, your best bet is to apply for all of the full-time PGDEs (too late for this year I think) and go back to Korea to save up the money to get you through the year. If you know a principal who will give you enough hours to do the part-time course through DCU, that'd be a good option too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    i am going back to korea on sunday. I have untill december of this year to make up my mind on what I want to do. I might not even bother doing a pgde. I made a decision after I handed up my dissertation for my masters that I was never going back to university again, but you can never say never, can you?


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