Carded cyclists for 2010

RobFowl

Hot off the press

Catherine Walsh Cycling Ireland Contracted €40,000
Pilot for C. Walsh Cycling Ireland Contracted‐ Pilot €20,000
Philip Deignan Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
David O'Loughlin Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Daniel Martin Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
David McCann Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Nicholas Roche Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Cathal Miller Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Enda Smyth Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Michael Delaney Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Pilot for M. Delaney Cycling Ireland World Class‐ Pilot €15,000
Matthew Brammeier Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Stephen Barrett Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Martyn Irvine Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Aaron Buggle Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Sean Downey Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Marcus Christie Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Sam Bennett Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Kelvin Batey Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Siobhan Horgan Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Andrew Fitzgerald Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Pilot for A. Fitzgerald Cycling Ireland International‐ Pilot €9,000
Connor McConvey Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Developmental Squad Cycling Ireland Developmental Allocation €10,000
Total €386,000

TinyExplosions

I think it means that they're blind, and have a 'pilot' co cyclist on a tandem

RobFowl

TinyExplosions wrote: »

I think it means that they're blind, and have a 'pilot' co cyclist on a tandem

Yes, Catherine Walsh won silver at the paralympic worlds last year with Caroline Ryan as her pilot. There are rules regarding the eligibility of pilots one being they have to have not competed at UCI level events in the previous year.

dave2pvd

Why are people with disabilities disproportionately represented?

I'm not saying I am pro or con on this, just wondering what the reasoning is and how CI (or whomever) came up with the numbers.

blorg

dave2pvd wrote: »

Why are people with disabilities disproportionately represented?

I'm not saying I am pro or con on this, just wondering what the reasoning is and how CI (or whomever) came up with the numbers.

Open to correction but I think our disabled cyclists are quite competitive internationally, relative to the able bodied ones, e.g. higher chance of medals from them.

RobFowl

dave2pvd wrote: »

Why are people with disabilities disproportionately represented?

I'm not saying I am pro or con on this, just wondering what the reasoning is and how CI (or whomever) came up with the numbers.

The Irish Sports Council who give the grants view disabled sports as being on a par with able bodied sport.

At high performance level basically they view a Paralympic medal as equal to and Olympic medal.

Also be aware that able bodied athletes tend to have alot of other income streams from sponsorship etc which disabled athletes tend not to.

Edit. Blorg is quite right, our disabled cyclists compete internationally at an extremely high level.

dave2pvd

Fair enough. Compared to the population, it is massively disproportionate. But there are some excellent reasons for this.

Another reason I can see is that it is of vital importance for people to have positive role models. I would imagine that this is even more important for disabled people.

Chips Lovell

OK, another question for those in the know.

Presumably Roche, Martin and Deignan are all on pretty good money at this stage given the teams they ride for. Do they really need to be financially supported like this?

RobFowl

el tonto wrote: »

OK, another question for those in the know.

Presumably Roche, Martin and Deignan are all on pretty good money at this stage given the teams they ride for. Do they really need to be financially supported like this?

No but they meet the criteria set down by the Sports council and are entitled to the grant.

IMO it would be much better spend on developing athletes.

That said Tommy Campbell wrote a piece tearing strips off the high performance team in CI for suggesting this....

niceonetom

el tonto wrote: »

OK, another question for those in the know.

Presumably Roche, Martin and Deignan are all on pretty good money at this stage given the teams they ride for. Do they really need to be financially supported like this?

The Donegal man is probably ours by rights, but what's to stop the other two deciding to be French and English if we decided to cut their stipend? /cynicism

coggs

dave2pvd wrote: »

Why are people with disabilities disproportionately represented?

I'm not saying I am pro or con on this, just wondering what the reasoning is and how CI (or whomever) came up with the numbers.

its very easy actually ,all paralympic cyclist must be ranked inside the top 10 world rankings , and thats just for the international . The reason for the numbers is there are no great amount of cyclist racing domestically in the cuntry with a disability , so therefore there is no real development coming thru either .

Beasty

This is the chance you have been waiting for

Get paid to get some world class training, and all you have to ask yourself is ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNnPrxzm3g

Beasty

RobFowl wrote: »

Yes, Catherine Walsh won silver at the paralympic worlds last year with Caroline Ryan as her pilot. There are rules regarding the eligibility of pilots one being they have to have not competed at UCI level events in the previous year.

Craig MacLean is aiming to be an able-bodied tandem pilot for GB in the 2012 London para-Olympics. According to his wiki page there is a mandatory 2 year waiting period of non-international competition before he can compete

coggs

Beasty wrote: »

Craig MacLean is aiming to be an able-bodied tandem pilot for GB in the 2012 London para-Olympics. According to his wiki page there is a mandatory 2 year waiting period of non-international competition before he can compete

I seen him training with a development stocker in Newport last year are he is an animal , cannot describe the power this guy puts out , they are already breaking world records in training !Wait till the the Paras in 2012 and it will be awesome .

Idleater

coggs wrote: »

its very easy actually ,all paralympic cyclist must be ranked inside the top 10 world rankings , and thats just for the international . The reason for the numbers is there are no great amount of cyclist racing domestically in the cuntry with a disability , so therefore there is no real development coming thru either .

Apologies for the crude joking but anyway :

Brian Griffin [looking at Glenn's Winnebago]: "Quagmire's Cross-C**try Tour." Uh, isn't there an "o" in "country"?
Glenn Quagmire: Nope!


All joking aside, I think this funding is well proportioned between those that need it to compete due to lack of sponsorship etc but possibly have less outlay, and those that deserve it because they are cycling at the top level internationally and do have a higher outlay. I am presuming that in neither case will it cover all the costs involved so like everything, it is up to the individual to prioritise where it goes.

Dura Ace

http://www.irishsportscouncil.ie/News_Events/Latest_News/2010_Archive/H-P_Carding_2010.pdf

Applicant NGB Category Award 2010

Total

Catherine Walsh Cycling Ireland Contracted €40,000

Pilot for C. Walsh Cycling Ireland Contracted‐ Pilot €20,000
Philip Deignan Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
David O'Loughlin Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Daniel Martin Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
David McCann Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Nicholas Roche Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Cathal Miller Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Enda Smyth Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Michael Delaney Cycling Ireland World Class €20,000
Pilot for M. Delaney Cycling Ireland World Class‐ Pilot €15,000
Matthew Brammeier Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Stephen Barrett Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Martyn Irvine Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Aaron Buggle Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Sean Downey Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Marcus Christie Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Sam Bennett Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Kelvin Batey Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Siobhan Horgan Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Andrew Fitzgerald Cycling Ireland International €12,000
Pilot for A. Fitzgerald Cycling Ireland International‐ Pilot €9,000
Connor McConvey Cycling Ireland International €12,000

Developmental Squad

Cycling Ireland Developmental Allocation €10,000

Total €386,000

Lumen

Threads merged, but thanks for the PDF link Dura Ace

Slideshowbob

Anyone else think the carding is a bit off-skew in that David McCann - a rider in the autumn of his career (granted he got a relatively ok place in the worlds TT's last year) - got 20k.

Philip Lavery - an up an coming rider in the Spring of his career - got nothing!?