Jargon.

lazlo

I've read information on combos on a few sites and while some of the terminology is self explanatory theres still stuff that leave me scratching my head...

For example Bisons thread on shoryuken

c.jabx2 c.forward xx lk scissors

what the hell is crouching forward??? I assume its Crouching MK or something but still need clarification. The same would apply to c. short what does that mean?

Doctor DooM

lazlo wrote: »

I've read information on combos on a few sites and while some of the terminology is self explanatory theres still stuff that leave me scratching my head...

For example Bisons thread on shoryuken

c.jabx2 c.forward xx lk scissors

what the hell is crouching forward??? I assume its Crouching MK or something but still need clarification. The same would apply to c. short what does that mean?

c.forward is another way of saying crouching medium kick. Crouching short is another way of saying crouching weak kick.

If memory serves this terminology seemed to have creeped up in America around the release of CE. It lead to much annoyance to all of us who bought EGM for their 20 page SF2CE guide (imported american mags cost around 10 pounds in Easons, not fun).

there's a thread on this already, will try to dig it up for you.

lazlo

Cheers Doom thats what I had assumed they meant but you know what they say about assumptions ...

Azza

Yeah Americans have different terms for all the types of normal.

Light Punch = Jab
Medium Punch = Strong
Hard Punch = Fierce
Light Kick = Short
Medium Kick = Forward
Hard Kick = Roundhouse

s. = Standing
c. = Crouching
cl. = Close
ch. = Counterhit
xx = Cancel


You might also see the word low being used in place of crouching.
So the term low.short means crouching light kick.

Sairus

Oh thank Christ. I've just been muddling through combo lists assuming I knew what they were talking about. This clears up a lot of confusion.
Why oh why did they come up with a system like this?

Doctor DooM

Sairus wrote: »

Oh thank Christ. I've just been muddling through combo lists assuming I knew what they were talking about. This clears up a lot of confusion.
Why oh why did they come up with a system like this?

Dunno, to me the european system seems to make much more sense.

It's quicker to say "crouching strong" instead of "ducking medium punch" so maybe that was it. there's one less word to say with the american system, better for commentary

chopperbyrne

Fairly certain some of the oldest instruction manuals that came with the games listed them as Jab, Strong, Fierce and Roundhouse. Can't remember if they had Short and Forward listed though. This would have been SNES WW and possibly printed on official WW/CE cabinets.

Doctor DooM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Fairly certain some of the oldest instruction manuals that came with the games listed them as Jab, Strong, Fierce and Roundhouse. Can't remember if they had Short and Forward listed though. This would have been SNES WW and possibly printed on official WW/CE cabinets.

I'm having trouble finding one of those little strip guide things that were on the cabinets... that'd sort this one right out.

Sairus

there's one less word to say with the american system, better for commentary

That's definitely a valid point.

Placebo

ppl shud just use LP MP HP etc

Owwmykneecap

well there repredentive of the move excuted by ryu/ken when the button was pressed inearly SFII era.

It's quite annoying, but understandable in informal circles.
Sirlin using it in HDRemix is unforgivable though.

Dictator/boxer/claw annoy the hell outta me.

the "japanese" notation is based on a number pad.
236+P = hadoken from the player 1 side.

jargon link: http://sonichurricane.com/articles/sfnotation.html

Sisko

more here if yea want it

http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2007/oct/21/street-fighter-terminology-acronyms-lexicon-and-glossary-guide/

Ramza

The whole jab/strong system etc actually makes more sense, imo

YES RLY

Yreval

http://iplaywinner.com/glossary/

Another list, with some interesting slang terms.

lazlo

Ramza wrote: »

The whole jab/strong system etc actually makes more sense, imo

YES RLY

strong/hard/fierce all sound like the same **** to me though, thats where the confusion comes from. Whats wrong with 'Med' ar Avg

Orim

Ramza wrote: »

The whole jab/strong system etc actually makes more sense, imo

YES RLY

Oh but it doesn't. It does sound a whole hella lot better though.

Ramza

I think it does but it's just my opinion. I know with most characters "Jab" will usually look like a jab, eh dont know about strong(maybe cause its not a job and not a fierce?), fierce is self explanatory, and like posted before, I guess fierce/hard etc are all the same

I think it's pretty much universally accepted, but some people prefer to post mp, hp etc. I guess it all boils down to preference