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Vodafone iPhone Tarrif
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15-02-2010 10:15pm#1
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Wow, news to my ears
Spending 60 sponds per month currently and down between the HTC and the IPhone, so this might swing it to the Iphone!
OP = Where did you register your interest in the phone?
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Folks,
I'd be very careful about reading the small print when it appears, before signing any contracts - especially if you're interested in tethering.
(For the uninitiated - tethering is where you use your phone as a modem, to connect some other device - usually a laptop - to the internet, through your phone's data connection.)
The iPhone allows operators to force the phone to use different APNs for on-phone data use and tethered data use. This means that they can bill separately (and differently) for data used by the phone itself (for the phone's browser, mail client, twitter client, etc) and data passed through to your laptop (for the laptop's browser, mail client, twitter client, etc). With most other handsets, the phone just uses the same APN for all data connections, so the operator cannot tell the difference between data used on the phone and data used on the laptop.
I'm an O2 iPhone customer. My iPhone-specific contract has expired (thankfully), so I switched to a much cheaper tariff (O2 Clear 50). I also have a "Mobile Internet Add-On" of 250MB for €7.50/month. In a typical month I use about 150MB of that, for web browsing, email, etc.
Now that O2 have finally enabled tethering, they tell me I have these choices:
1) Don't use tethering. You don't really need it.
2) Buy a separate "Tethering Add-On". These start from as little as €12.50 / month for 1GB. No, you can't use the 250MB you're already paying for to tether. That's for use on the phone, not for tethering. And you can't cancel the Mobile Internet Add-On - if you do, we'll refuse to sell you the Tethering Add-On.
3) Okay, don't buy a tethering add-on, just go ahead and use tethering. We'll charge you 1c per KB for "tethering data usage". (Yes, per KB. That's €10.24 per MB. A staggering €10485.76 per GB, by my calculation!)
4) Switch back to one of the iPhone-specific tariffs which cost much more but which include either 1GB of "any-which-way" data allowance or 3GB of "Mobile Internet" allowance (which would still require a "Tethering Add-On").
Now, is it just me, or does that amount to:
"You're an iPhone user, and you want to use your Jesus Phone to browse the web from your shiny MacBook Pro? You're obviously a filthy rich Apple fanboi, so let's see..... yes, I think we'll screw you royally....!"
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But, there is hope.....
As far as I know, an unlocked iPhone will work on any network. If the network is one that "supports" the iPhone (O2, and soon Vodafone), then Apple helps the network operator to control the APNs that the phone uses, as described above. But, if the network is one that has no deal with Apple (such as Meteor), you can still use tethering (with the latest iPhone firmware, that is). And you get to configure which APNs it uses. At least, that's what I've read.
So, when O2 unlock my iPhone (which they've almost-but-not-quite promised to do when Vodafone start selling iPhones), I'm hoping that I can stick a Meteor prepaid SIM into it. Configure it to use the same APN for "mobile internet" and "tethering", and then Meteor don't know or care how I'm using my data allowance - which is as it should be, I think. So I can buy one data allowance from Meteor and use it on the phone or on the laptop, as I see fit.
If this theory works out, I think there is a beautiful irony here: the best network for iPhone users who want to use tethering may be the network that doesn't "support" the iPhone.
Anyway - long story short - I for one won't be rushing out to sign a contract with Vodafone without checking out this whole data/tethering angle very carefully. As an "official" iPhone network, I suspect that they'll try to screw people who used tethering, just like O2 do.
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Congrats, loca1, I hope you enjoy the Jesus phone. It really is a remarkable gadget. Sure, some of the Android phones are getting to be comparable now, but it has taken the industry years to produce anything even close to what Apple have.
My only grumbles are with the commercial stuff dictated by mobile network operators. To some extent, I'm a bit hacked off with Apple, too, for allowing the operators to control the handsets so tightly. But I guess Apple need the operators, and vice versa.
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Hi, Installed iphone OS 3.1.3 on a sim free iphone 3GS, and i hadn't noticed it before, but the option to enter the tethering details in Settings>General>Network>Cellular Data Network is there. I am going to try the standard Meteor settings.
Good for you. I'd be very interested to know how that goes for you.Why can't people change these on the phones with O2 etc?
Maybe its because my phone is sim free?
Yes. On my O2 phone, I have two APNs there that I can change. They claim to affect "Cellular Data" and "MMS". Do you have those plus a third one for Tethering? (I've never seen the relevant settings screen on an unlocked iPhone.)
The point is that the phone actually supports those 3 APNs for different uses. With the setup O2 have, you get to see (and even set) the Cellular Data and MMS ones. But those settings are now ignored, and you don't even get to see the Tethering one. Instead, the three APNs to use are taken from the Carrier Settings file that O2 pushes to your phone through iTunes.
Yes, "All your settings are belong to O2!"Either way they are being bold charging for data in multiple ways, it is a forced cash cow for now, if I hadn't moved to Meteor from O2 I would be more than annoyed (I wasn't on an iPhone tariff before for other reasons).
I also havea HTC hero and symbian S60. Don't care what anyone says, at this moment in time the iPhone OS is a much easier interface to use.
Does anyone know the correct Vodafone mms settings for the iPhone, mms isn't working for a friend who got an iphone with vodafone?
Also if you are an existing vodafone customer (my sister), how can you get the deal mentioned in the first post (600min, 600texts + data for 60euro)?
TIA
Couldn't agree more about them being "bold". Sorry, can't help you with the Vodafone settings... 0 -
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