Adam and Eve, who were they

Dymo · 15-02-2010 5:50pm #1

I'm doing a re-watch of Lost and I'm half way through season 1

A question that I can't find an answer for, but who were Adam and Eve in the cave? It was the place where Jack brought the flight survivors to for fresh water. Also Jack recovered a pouch with 2 stones in it a black stone and white a white stone from one of the bodies.

Sad Professor · 15-02-2010 5:55pm

We don't who they are yet. We'll find out this season.

The stones may become relevant again soon. They would seem to represent the conflict between Jacob and MIB. Locke summed it up in the pilot:

calnand · 15-02-2010 5:59pm

I heard somewhere that they might be Bernard and Rose, (the black and white stone make this more credible)

cooker3 · 15-02-2010 8:08pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

We don't know who they are yet. We'll find out this season.

Yeah. I actually think this is the most likely explanation. Cue the everlasting debate when the show ends "Did the writers know it was going to be x all along!"

Sea Sharp · 15-02-2010 8:23pm

Rose and Bernard is my best guess too. Maybe Sawyer and Kate??

tony1kenobi · 15-02-2010 9:35pm

I think it's Lord Lucan and Richey Edwards myself........

KoolKid · 15-02-2010 9:44pm

cooker3 wrote: »

Yeah. I actually think this is the most likely explanation. Cue the everlasting debate when the show ends "Did the writers know it was going to be x all along!"

Its been said that the Adam & Eve answer will be thier proof.

uncleoswald · 16-02-2010 10:48am

Bernard and Rose seemed the most likely because of the time-travel. But there is no reason they wouldn't have jumped forward in time again, unless they were killed in the few hours between Sawyer & Co meeting them in the 70's and the Incident, so it almost certainly isn't them as I don't think there will be anymore time-travelling. Also they are just Bernard and Rose so who would really give a f*ck?

The black and white stones suggest they will be important though so my guess would be the parents of Jacob (and maybe MIB, hence the black and white stones?) Or perhaps two bodies that they both commandeered many years before. I'm also wondering were Ben's love interest as a child ended up so wonder if one of them is her?

And I'm almost definitely completely off track.

KoolKid · 16-02-2010 10:54am

Still think it could be Jack & Kate. Remember the line it seems like a million years since we got here first?

Penn · 16-02-2010 12:06pm

koolkid wrote: »

Still think it could be Jack & Kate. Remember the line it seems like a million years since we got here first?

But didn't Jack say it looked like the bodies had been dead for 40-50 years

KoolKid · 16-02-2010 12:10pm

Yes but it was the line that suggested they were there before. The million years was just to over emphasise the fact.

Penn · 16-02-2010 12:55pm

koolkid wrote: »

Yes but it was the line that suggested they were there before. The million years was just to over emphasise the fact.

Oh yeah, I understand that, I mean I don't think it is Jack and Kate because, if the bodies have been there for 40-50 years, we have yet to see if they go that far back in time, and I presume the time-travel has stopped as a result of The Incident.

I'd go with Rose and Bernard too. When Charlotte died, her body didn't move with the others when the time flashed. So perhaps after Rose and Bernard met Sawyer, Juliet and Kate in 1977, they were killed before The Incident took place (short timescale, but still possible). If they were killed before the Incident, their bodies wouldn't have went to 2007. Then maybe the Dharma folks put their bodies in the cave. Although this would mean the bodies would have been there for less than 30 years by the time Jack found them, and not 40-50 years.

Although a) Jack could have been wrong, and b) it's not like the producers haven't made mistakes like that before, like with Charlottes age

tok9 · 16-02-2010 2:39pm

I'm just wondering did the producers actually say that this would be proof that they had it planned all along?

I keep hearing people say that this is their proof once we find out.

I doesn't really bother me if they made it up or had it planned but i'm just curious if they actually said that.

KoolKid · 16-02-2010 2:50pm

tok9 wrote: »

I'm just wondering did the producers actually say that this would be proof that they had it planned all along?

I keep hearing people say that this is their proof once we find out.
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They did!

tok9 · 16-02-2010 3:00pm

koolkid wrote: »

They did!

Is there any link?

Sad Professor · 16-02-2010 3:00pm

What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in [the Feb. 7 episode], one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html

This was from February 2007. But tbh I wouldn't read a great deal into it.

David Fury said they were making things up as they went long in season 1 (he left mid-season afaik). However, he also said time travel was in their mind from the beginning (a line about "time" got cut from Solitary at ABC's request) and he also hinted that Jack and Kate might be the skeletons.

KoolKid · 16-02-2010 3:07pm

SP got there before me.

tok9 · 16-02-2010 6:09pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html

This was from February 2007. But tbh I wouldn't read a great deal into it.

David Fury said they were making things up as they went long in season 1 (he left mid-season afaik). However, he also said time travel was in their mind from the beginning (a line about "time" got cut from Solitary at ABC's request) and he also hinted that Jack and Kate might be the skeletons.

What episode were they talking about?

Sad Professor · 16-02-2010 6:14pm

tok9 wrote: »

What episode were they talking about?

In the interview?

tok9 · 16-02-2010 6:48pm

Ya.

They talk about an anagram in the episode...

Sad Professor · 16-02-2010 6:55pm

tok9 wrote: »

Ya.

They talk about an anagram in the episode...

Oh that was from Juliet's episode on season 3. Not In Portland I think. The Others front company was called mittelos. Which is an anagram for "lost time".

nirvana0506 · 17-02-2010 9:43pm

jack could of been wrong about the 40 - 50 years or it could be the fact that time is different on the island.

when they started time travelling i was sure it was gonna be rose and bernard but they had to of been killed after kate sawyer and juliet saw them in the incident. smokie maybe??

ixoy · 17-02-2010 10:19pm

I'm guessing Rose and Bernard too - they're the only stable couple in the whole show, and it's fitting they'd end up side by side. Of course it could be something less romantic like the two warring sides of Jacob and Esau (or whomever he is).

I don't believe that these bodies will prove it was all planned - only some of the broader questions. I imagine most of the detail was still made up as they went along.

uggy · 18-02-2010 3:39pm

I think it'll be Jack and Kate.

It'll be the final scene of the show. Some-one has to make the island jump one last time before it can be theadered in place so everyone can leave the island. That person will be Jack. He'll do it because of all the grief he has caused to other people that have helped him throughout, and Kate will do because she wont let him do it alone.

Off Topic - Oh and then the cycle starts to repeat... 40/50 years later the plane crashes in 2004 etc.

murpho999 · 19-02-2010 3:16am

Maybe this has been said already, but surely the fact that Bernard and Rose are a Black & White couple must be significant?

djlinehan · 19-02-2010 8:18am

was watching last night 19feb10 and when the new "lock" went into the cave he caught a white stone from a scales and threw it into the ocean , when asked he said it was a long running joke , and went on to tell sawyer that jacob was dead ..... good v's evil white stone v's black stone ..... might just be that simple....

uncleoswald · 19-02-2010 11:21am

uggy wrote: »

That person will be Jack. He'll do it because of all the grief he has caused to other people that have helped him throughout.

I'm bored with myself been a Jack apologist, but what grief?

Penn · 19-02-2010 11:45am

uggy wrote: »

I think it'll be Jack and Kate.

It'll be the final scene of the show. Some-one has to make the island jump one last time before it can be theadered in place so everyone can leave the island. That person will be Jack.

But if he did that, wouldn't he leave the island and end up in Tunisia?

uggy · 20-02-2010 1:36pm

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

But if he did that, wouldn't he leave the island and end up in Tunisia?

Not necessarily, I reckon the first time we saw the island jump was when the hatch blew up and Desmonde ended up in jungle in nip. The donkey wheel might end people up in Tunisia, but I dont think this is the only way to make the island move.

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