Putting a dog out to stud??

Irishcrx

Hi Guys,

I have a lovely all white Siberian Husky who just turned one , He is purebreed, IKC registered etc and I was thinking of putting him out to stud. Recently he has started becoming extremely boystorious obviously because he hitting that age, we have a female dog put she has been neutered and is having none of him "Getting on", Do you think putting him out to stud might help him release some of his pent up frustration? Also how does it work do I take the female in for a few days or does he stay with another family etc?

Also I am aware of the hugh overbreeding in this breed that has occured int he past and do not want to give him to bad breeders, am I within my rights to ask for informatio on the breeder before agreeing?

Any advice appreciated.

adser53

Not to make little of your thread but a search on here will show you plenty of answers (and more importantly - why not to)

Putting it bluntly, why do you want to put him out to stud in the first place?

Consider some of these questions too:

Health tests...have you done them?
Is he a good example of the breed? Expert's opinion on this, not your vets
Do you show him? A good bitch will not generally be bred with a dog that isn't a good healthy show standard dog so you'll more than likely end up mating him with another "casual" breeder.
Are you willing to take responsibilty for the pups too?

And finally 1 year is far too young for him to be put out to stud.

Personally I wouldn't recommend you do it
Search on here for more info:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055796736&highlight=stud
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055785542&highlight=stud
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055683569&highlight=stud
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055712752&highlight=stud
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andreac

Firstly, your dog is FAR too young for stud. He should be at least 2 years old before using for stud, he is still just a pup.

Secondly, has he had all the health tests done for Huskies, hip/elbow scoring and so on? This doesnt mean a quick once over from the vet, theres a lot more to it than that.

Also, how do you know hes a good example of his breed and that he doesnt have any major faults for his breed. Have you shown him or had a husky expert look at him as only excellent examples of a breed that are health tested should be bred from.

If you put him out to stud his temperament can change a lot and he will always want to mate from then on and will be a lot more inclined to go looking for bitches in heat and will do anything to get at one (escaping, wandering) if theres one in season about your area.

If you have a male dog for stud, its usually the owners of the females that contact you if you have a good dog, thats the way it is for me, and i have a rottweiler that is an irish champion and people come to me enquiring for stud, not the other way around. If your dog is good enough (through showing) people will come to you to use your dog. So if you are really intent on using him for stud, show him for a while and get all his health tests done first and see how he gets on in the ring, if hes anyway a good dog then he will do well and people will want to use him.

The way it works though is that the owners of the females come to you with their bitch and the mating happens at the males home. But trust me, its not as easy as you might think, ive been there and no how hard it is for novice stud dogs owners. I was lucky to have a few experienced people help me and the owner of the bitch is experienced too.


But really, the best thing you could do is neuter him and this will stop all the frustration he has. There are enough unwanted dogs etc in rescue without adding to it.

Magenta

Just get him neutered. The country is swimming with Siberian Huskies and many of them end up in the pound so please do not add to the numbers.

Irishcrx

Thanks for the advice guys, looks like alot of planning will need to go into it, too much for the minute and as he is only 1 I will be leaving it for the moment but may bring it back in the future when he is older and I have his health checks done, I don't plan on entering shows not my scene.

I also don't want to Nueter him, I would have done it younger if I was going to I don't really believe in it ( I don't mean this for everybody obviously it is important) but just not for me. Thanks again.

meisha

its a shame neutering is the only way we will ever get this country's dog problem sorted but its not going to happen anytime soon,a visit to the pound might wake you up to the reality of what happens here,fine young dogs with bounds of life to live just like your boy waiting to die due to over breeding and irresponsible owners

andreac

Irishcrx wrote: »

Thanks for the advice guys, looks like alot of planning will need to go into it, too much for the minute and as he is only 1 I will be leaving it for the moment but may bring it back in the future when he is older and I have his health checks done, I don't plan on entering shows not my scene.

I also don't want to Nueter him, I would have done it younger if I was going to I don't really believe in it ( I don't mean this for everybody obviously it is important) but just not for me. Thanks again.

Can i ask your reasons behind not believing in it? You do realise its much healthier for a dog to be neutered, and it reduces the risk of them getting cancer in later life?
I hope you dont want to keep him entire because you are a man and think its unfair for him to have his bits chopped off, because if thats the case then it is just not a valid reason at all.

Its very unfair and frustrating to leave a dog entire if he isnt going to breed, and as i said, unelss you show him and you know that he is an excellent example of his breed then he should NOT be bred from.
The kindest and healthiest thing you can do for your dog is neuter him.

Sorry just to add, you say neutering is not for you, its not you thats getting neutered its the dog so you should relaly think about why you dont want to keep him neutered and put your dogs health first before your own REASONS.

Irishcrx

I don't want to Neuter him because I am unsure if I want to breed him in the future, I am also unsure if he is an excellent example of his breed. I do know that he was bought from a good breeder who parents had perfect hip and eye scores and good breed lines before hand, so I would imagine he would follow the same suite.

I am fully aware of the puppy farming with these dogs and being a lover of the breed DO NOT want to add this, hence why if I am unsure about something I will always ask advice first.

And no the Neutering issue is not because I am male, sure the thought of it isn't pleasent as I care a great deal about my dog and hate to see him in any sort of pain, but I wouldn't ever base my decision on what is best for me.

andreac

Ok, sounds like you have your head screwed on alright then. You would be surprised at the amount of people who dont want to neuter their dogs coz they dont like the idea of chopping their bits off.

Well def do your research first and make sure he has all health tests done and they are clear, just because the parents are clear doesnt always mean their pups will be.

But it would be best to get an experts opinion on whether hes a good example and that wouldnt be a vet as they are not breed specialists.

peasant

Just on that note:

Irishcrx wrote: »

Do you think putting him out to stud might help him release some of his pent up frustration?

The answer is: no!

Dogs do not know what they're missing ...not until they've had it that is.

Chances are that having been allowed to take his pent up sexual urge all the way, he will become even more boisterous and more difficult to handle.
I remember reading somewhere that intact dogs that have some notches on their belts get even more aggressive towards other intact males and even more focussed on this whole marking and "my territory" thing.
(Seemingly they're not into the "lie back, have a smoke, turn around and snore" kind of behaviour that other males are said to display )

andreac

Peasant you are right, 2 intact males can be aggressive towards each other, like 2 stallions etc. You need to be very careful with an entire male around another entire male at all times.

As someone that shows an entire male dog i have to be very careful around any other male dogs at shows and you cannot trust them and i have to keep my distance just to be safe.

So OP, be prepared to have a very different dog on your hands if you do decide to mate him. At the moment hes only a pup, once he matures into an adult, as an entire male he could be a handful and need very firm handling.

lrushe

You've got some great advice above so I won't repeat it. As your dog is only a year old I would spend the next year putting all your hard work into training him and making him more managable as when he is fully mature he will be a strong dog, shelve ideas of studding him for the time being.
I would encourage to show or at the v.least do some work or agility with your guy, not only will he love it as an outlet for his excess energy it will prove his worth as a stud.
Whether you ever decide to neuter or not I wouldn't do it until he is fully mature, so over two years old as there is alot of research coming out now which shows the relationship between a dogs growth plates and the hormones releaased during puberty. Some people are abstaining from neutering males at all but I would only recommend this to someone who can guarantee the security of their male.