Coffee shop training

foxhill

hi guys, I m planning to open a coffee/lunch shop in dublin 8. but have no experience. So I m looking for some sort of training before starts anything. may be work for free at some coffee shop nearby dublin 8, i seen loadza of them on thomas street recently, or get training from company???

any ideas?

DubTony

I have a question. Why are you going to open and invest in a business (and work in) when you've no experience in that business?

I'd like to suggest that instead of looking to work for someone for free (admirable by the way), you might be better off talking to them and finding out how business is for them, and seeing if it's actually worth your while.

And if there are that many in D8, is there a possibility that the area is saturated?

foxhill

DubTony wrote: »

I have a question. Why are you going to open and invest in a business (and work in) when you've no experience in that business?

well.. currently i m running this place as night restaurant. as you aware Night time sitting doing good business is 'talk of past'. but there is good business is in breakfasts & lunches, sandwiches.

so I want to run this place as coffee shop. this place is in inchicore village and coffee shop/breakfast/lunches nearby are none. so my plan is to open a decent coffee shop in inchicore village.

I'd like to suggest that instead of looking to work for someone for free (admirable by the way), you might be better off talking to them and finding out how business is for them, and seeing if it's actually worth your while.

yes there are two coffee shops one @ south circular road, hilton hotel side and other one is on bulfin road. and i seen them packed everyday. though both are at a distance. may be i ll talk to them if they interested in opening one in my place!

And if there are that many in D8, is there a possibility that the area is saturated?

well those ones are on thomas street but i m inchicore, dublin 8.

kotva

First-you'll have take make a good espresso, otherwise your coffee shop will be empty or full of "**** coffe lovers"
Thats why, you'll need a barista training.
I try (contact to) many companys but only one is provide the course for people who are not a customers of this company-BEWLEY's

The training is taking place in Bewleys company at northen cross and it cost 200 euro for a basic 3 hours.
Just simple-log on bewleys web site and find out more.

Second-practice, practice, practice:)

Mr.Boots

Not sure why you need "training" for a coffee shop if you allready run a restaurant???
In my opinion if you cant make it work at night...you wont make it work during the day.....spend tends to be lower during the day....no wine sales ect
Why not sweat your asset and open for both day and night.
Three most important things to consider.....food standard....service standard....value for money....If you can deliver these consistently you will do ok and survive.
As for coffe training....pick your suplier first (Eg. Java) and they will train you.
Any other questions i can help you with just ask...i have a restaurant myslef so i understand the current "chalenges"

foxhill

hi mr boots,

restaurant is running ok, indeed we'r mad busy during last three days till today.

my question was about should I open during day for irish breakfast n then light lunhces or snacks. i cnt use my current dinner menu during day time.
it seems little transition, during day time coffee shop n night time restaurant back to normal!!! but it could be painful.

i visited nearby coffee shops and checked what they are selling there and got little ideas but i want to go to depth for that i need inhouse training and advice. like what should i begin with. and then later expand my menu etc. how much cost ll be involved for this transition period to happen.

Mr.Boots wrote: »

Not sure why you need "training" for a coffee shop if you allready run a restaurant???
In my opinion if you cant make it work at night...you wont make it work during the day.....spend tends to be lower during the day....no wine sales ect
Why not sweat your asset and open for both day and night.
Three most important things to consider.....food standard....service standard....value for money....If you can deliver these consistently you will do ok and survive.
As for coffe training....pick your suplier first (Eg. Java) and they will train you.
Any other questions i can help you with just ask...i have a restaurant myslef so i understand the current "chalenges"

antoinolachtnai

There is at least one consultant around the place who helps with this sort of thing.

foxhill

thx... Mr/ms who?

Mr.Boots

foxhill wrote: »

hi mr boots,

restaurant is running ok, indeed we'r mad busy during last three days till today.

my question was about should I open during day for irish breakfast n then light lunhces or snacks. i cnt use my current dinner menu during day time.
it seems little transition, during day time coffee shop n night time restaurant back to normal!!! but it could be painful.

i visited nearby coffee shops and checked what they are selling there and got little ideas but i want to go to depth for that i need inhouse training and advice. like what should i begin with. and then later expand my menu etc. how much cost ll be involved for this transition period to happen.

Can you give me an idea of what style restaurant you have?
What price range is it in?
What style is youe food?
How many staff do you have?
What are your chefs capabilities?
How many seats do you have?
To hte nearest hundred, how much do you wish to increase your turnover by per week?

Tail Wagger

Mr.Boots wrote: »

Can you give me an idea of what style restaurant you have?
What price range is it in?
What style is youe food?
How many staff do you have?
What are your chefs capabilities?
How many seats do you have?
To hte nearest hundred, how much do you wish to increase your turnover by per week?

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Ah Mr. Boots some of the questions you are asking this person you'll end up opening one there yourself!.

I think s/he does need some sort of training with an idea like this. The first thing people will look for in these places is hygiene and marks out of 10 for service, so I'd agree go and see someone and if you have to work a couple of shifts without pay it will stand to you.. Make sure your not being used for a door mat, tell them you are there to learn how to manage your own business.

I did a simular thing years ago I went a worked for a chef in a kitchen and they tried to give me all the sh1t jobs... I done it for the 1st night and after I worked with the chef and I learned loads.

you need to know where to purchase stock etc.. work out prophet margins etc... Theres loads to learn.
The main thing for a place like yours is space for bum's .. local trade car parking spaces and of course lots of passing trade also, I'll keep an eye on your post and see how your doing, good luck with your venture! :cool:

Mr.Boots

Tail Wagger wrote: »

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Ah Mr. Boots some of the questions you are asking this person you'll end up opening one there yourself!.

I think s/he does need some sort of training with an idea like this. The first thing people will look for in these places is hygiene and marks out of 10 for service, so I'd agree go and see someone and if you have to work a couple of shifts without pay it will stand to you.. Make sure your not being used for a door mat, tell them you are there to learn how to manage your own business.

I did a simular thing years ago I went a worked for a chef in a kitchen and they tried to give me all the sh1t jobs... I done it for the 1st night and after I worked with the chef and I learned loads.

you need to know where to purchase stock etc.. work out prophet margins etc... Theres loads to learn.
The main thing for a place like yours is space for bum's .. local trade car parking spaces and of course lots of passing trade also, I'll keep an eye on your post and see how your doing, good luck with your venture! :cool:

I have enough on my plate already