WINTER OLYMPIC BIATHLON

jwshooter

just looking at the mens race ,the fitness and the shooting is unbelievable.


is this the ultimate shooting sport.

bunny shooter

Was watching it myself

love WATCHING it

dCorbus

Some great photos of the Winter Biathlon here:

http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-biathlon-photos/#photoScrollHref

(Now, if only I could persuade Ms. Magdelana Neuner to join us on the range someday.....gold medal shooter and a very nice smile indeed:D)

How cool is this?

jwshooter

dCorbus wrote: »

Some great photos of the Winter Biathlon here:

http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-biathlon-photos/#photoScrollHref

(Now, if only I could persuade Ms. Magdelana Neuner to join us on the range someday.....gold medal shooter and a very nice smile indeed:D)

How cool is this?

total babe.

dCorbus

And a bloody great shot too, obviously!:D

Bananaman

jwshooter wrote: »

is this the ultimate shooting sport.

possibly but unfortunately illegal in Ireland as it is 'dynamic' hence combat training

B'Man

rrpc

Bananaman wrote: »

possibly but unfortunately illegal in Ireland as it is 'dynamic' hence combat training

B'Man

We'll never know will we? Until of course the day after tomorrow and the place is buried in snow.

Of course by then we won't be concerned about such niceties


Watching the Women's downhill skiing this evening. There were some spectacular wipeouts and what will inevitably be the clip of the games where a French skiier went on her ass just out of the start gate. Game over after 20 yards :eek:

jwshooter

Bananaman wrote: »

possibly but unfortunately illegal in Ireland as it is 'dynamic' hence combat training

B'Man

i would not think so as the shooting is static ,firearms are only loaded on the range .mags are 5 shot ,rifles are not auto.

same as clay shooting or any static target shooting ,firearms are only in transit to the target.


you best get over it and move on ,its not healthy to whine on about something that is gone.

jwshooter

rrpc wrote: »

We'll never know will we? Until of course the day after tomorrow and the place is buried in snow.

Of course by then we won't be concerned about such niceties


Watching the Women's downhill skiing this evening. There were some spectacular wipeouts and what will inevitably be the clip of the games where a French skiier went on her ass just out of the start gate. Game over after 20 yards :eek:

one lucky lady half way down ,she got some slap.

rrpc

jwshooter wrote: »

one lucky lady half way down ,she got some slap.

I thought the one that lost it on the last jump was the worst. Bad enough crashing, but then banging the noggin whilst sliding down the rest of the way probably thinking she was over the worst.

The Beeb co-commentator won the ladies downhill in 1988 in Meribel. Coincidentally I skied down that course in 1986 and needless to say I have huge respect for these girls who can do those 3k runs in under two minutes. More like twenty for me

Bananaman

jwshooter wrote: »

you best get over it and move on ,its not healthy to whine on about something that is gone.

Not gonna happen. I like to keep the pot well stirred.

Have you driven in Dublin with the new 30kph speed limit yet - try that statement then!!

jwshooter wrote: »

i would not think so as the shooting is static ,firearms are only loaded on the range .mags are 5 shot ,rifles are not auto.

same as clay shooting or any static target shooting ,firearms are only in transit to the target.

Same as any other shooting discipline that was ever practiced here.
I assume your 'get over it' comment is in relation to IPSC ?

the shooting is static - true - as it is in IPSC - there may be many shooting positions but no matter what it looks like you are static while firing -
hint: otherwise you wouldn't hit anything.

firearms are only loaded on the range - again true - as it is in IPSC - in IPSC it is only allowed under direct RO commands. In the Winter Biathlon you do not have direct RO commands but can simply load and fire when ready.
hint: in all shooting disciplines firearms are only loaded on a range that is what the ranges are for.

mags are 5 shot - dunno what that has to do with whether something is safe or not - just means you have to carry more magazines.

are not auto - dunno where you're from but this is true of all shooting disciplines.

same as clay shooting - not really - clay shooting has multiple dynamic targets

or any static target shooting - again not true - only in dynamic disciplines do you have to change firing position in order to see different targets - that's the definition - that is why the Winter biathlon is a 'dynamic shooting' sport - and why it would be illegal in Ireland.

firearms are only in transit to the target - I don't even know what that means - all firearms, at all times, are in transit to a target

I'm just pointing out that people are sheep. Dynamic shooting is prohibited in Ireland - only country in the world I believe - yet when it is in the Olympics it is lauded.

B'man

rrpc

Bananaman wrote: »

the shooting is static - true - as it is in IPSC - there may be many shooting positions but no matter what it looks like you are static while firing -
hint: otherwise you wouldn't hit anything.

firearms are only loaded on the range - again true - as it is in IPSC - in IPSC it is only allowed under direct RO commands. In the Winter Biathlon you do not have direct RO commands but can simply load and fire when ready.
hint: in all shooting disciplines firearms are only loaded on a range that is what the ranges are for.

Don't you move from 'firing point' to 'firing point' on the range with the gun loaded and sometimes unloaded or whilst loading depending on the stage in IPSC?

are not auto - dunno where you're from but this is true of all shooting disciplines.

I think he means semi-auto.

same as clay shooting - not really - clay shooting has multiple dynamic targets

DTL, Skeet and OT all involve the competitors moving from firing point to firing point (or stand) at each stage. I think that's the comparison jw was making to Biathlon. Both also use 'reactive' targets, so not as different as you might think.

I'm just pointing out that people are sheep. Dynamic shooting is prohibited in Ireland - only country in the world I believe - yet when it is in the Olympics it is lauded.

B'man

I don't recall anyone on this thread dissing IPSC as a sport. Praising one sport for its athleticism and entertaiment value does not imply other sports aren't equally worthy of praise.

Would it be more acceptable to you if Biathlon was boring?

jwshooter

Bananaman wrote: »

Not gonna happen. I like to keep the pot well stirred.

Have you driven in Dublin with the new 30kph speed limit yet - try that statement then!!



Same as any other shooting discipline that was ever practiced here.
I assume your 'get over it' comment is in relation to IPSC ?

the shooting is static - true - as it is in IPSC - there may be many shooting positions but no matter what it looks like you are static while firing -
hint: otherwise you wouldn't hit anything.

firearms are only loaded on the range - again true - as it is in IPSC - in IPSC it is only allowed under direct RO commands. In the Winter Biathlon you do not have direct RO commands but can simply load and fire when ready.
hint: in all shooting disciplines firearms are only loaded on a range that is what the ranges are for.

mags are 5 shot - dunno what that has to do with whether something is safe or not - just means you have to carry more magazines.

are not auto - dunno where you're from but this is true of all shooting disciplines.

same as clay shooting - not really - clay shooting has multiple dynamic targets

or any static target shooting - again not true - only in dynamic disciplines do you have to change firing position in order to see different targets - that's the definition - that is why the Winter biathlon is a 'dynamic shooting' sport - and why it would be illegal in Ireland.

firearms are only in transit to the target - I don't even know what that means - all firearms, at all times, are in transit to a target

I'm just pointing out that people are sheep. Dynamic shooting is prohibited in Ireland - only country in the world I believe - yet when it is in the Olympics it is lauded.

B'man

any chance hear the mods,can delete this off topic crap.

Bananaman

I was simply answering the question you raised in the OP.

Dunno how that can be off topic?

B'Man

jwshooter

the thread is about the winter olympic biathlon , NOT pistol shooting .

dCorbus

Gentlemen, gentlemen, please.....:D

Did we not go over and over and over this biathlon = dynamic / non-dynamic shooting (banned or not-banned?) palaver only a month or so ago?:D:rolleyes:

You're all going to have to just agree to disagree IMHO!:D Please.:)

(I don't remember the discussion ending in any sort of agreement the last time either - Perhaps we should all meet here online or in the Real World to discuss this particular topic on the last Thursday of every Month?:rolleyes::rolleyes:)

I'm joking BTW - Don't want to be accused on backseat modding now, do I?:D

Now, shall we return to the matter at hand: The Winter Biathlon (and, of course, the glorious shooters representing the Bundesrepublik:D)?

dCorbus

Coming up this evening (Winter Biathlon):

18:20 Winter Olympics - 15km Individual - Women
21:20 Winter Olympics - 20km Individual - Men

jwshooter

just looking at the womens 15km event ,t berger just put in one hell of a shoot and run .

rrpc

If you want to do this in the confort of your own home and no licence necessary, you could always get one of these:



and one of these:



No snow needed

Sparks

Actually, this:



is a lot of fun; but it's not really biathlon, it's ISSF 10m for kids under 12. It's how we started some of the WTSC shooters when they were very young (when older brother/sister is training, it's fun for their siblings to do something similar).

Not that I'm saying the older folks in WTSC don't thoroughly test the system regularly, you understand...

rrpc

Sparks wrote: »

Actually, this:



is a lot of fun; but it's not really biathlon, it's ISSF 10m for kids under 12. It's how we started some of the WTSC shooters when they were very young (when older brother/sister is training, it's fun for their siblings to do something similar).

Not that I'm saying the older folks in WTSC don't thoroughly test the system regularly, you understand...

Not to be pedantic or anything , but it's called the Biathlon trainer and if you're going to dispense with the snow and any actual skiing, then air rifle or .22 rifle indoors would be pretty much the same thing. Except of course, you don't have to hit the ten ring.

I think for standing it's just a case of hitting the black and for prone it's somewhere inside the 7 ring.

jwshooter

rrpc wrote: »

Not to be pedantic or anything , but it's called the Biathlon trainer and if you're going to dispense with the snow and any actual skiing, then air rifle or .22 rifle indoors would be pretty much the same thing. Except of course, you don't have to hit the ten ring.

I think for standing it's just a case of hitting the black and for prone it's somewhere inside the 7 ring.

most target shooters in ireland would not be able to run the lenth of the range ,not alone 15kms.

looks like some good training for a TT .

jwshooter

just looking at the ladys 4x6km relay , very exciting the shooting was brilliant by the Russians to retain there title.

the french skied well but there shooting let them down

E. Fudd

I remember reading this earlier this year and have just stumbled accross this and thought somebody might be interested!

http://www.aliveoutside.ie/index.php?id=69&eid=99

Seems like a bit of a money spinner but still, I certainly wouldnt mind doing it!

dCorbus

Interesting....hmmmmmm

"Irish National Skiathlon Championship"? Which NGB is running this one?:rolleyes:
Or is there a new one affiliated to the IBU that we haven't been made aware of?

Sounds like a money spinner TBH - but if anyone has any other info or background on this, I'd love to know more. Thanks.