spent centre fire cases

welsummer

what do you all do with you spent centre fire cases .
i always put them in my pocket and chuck them in a bucket when i get home.
i was always hoped that home loading would become legal in this country and i could start using them.
Any light at the end if the tunel on the home loading!!!
i now have a bucket full of them and dont know what to do with them.

Tricky1127

I Know how you feel i moved back to Eire with the tools to make/reload my own ammo and its out in the garage as a bit of my shooting history :mad:

johngalway

welsummer wrote: »

what do you all do with you spent centre fire cases .
i always put them in my pocket and chuck them in a bucket when i get home.
i was always hoped that home loading would become legal in this country and i could start using them.
Any light at the end if the tunel on the home loading!!!
i now have a bucket full of them and dont know what to do with them.

Strange but true...

Those spent cases still count towards your ammo limit. So be really nice to the Gardai, they could do ya for them if you're over your limit and they were in the mood.

Tricky1127

johngalway wrote: »

Strange but true...

Those spent cases still count towards your ammo limit. So be really nice to the Gardai, they could do ya for them if you're over your limit and they were in the mood.

Used brass is classed a new ammo say it`s not so....?????

.243

if thats the case,where can i get a permit for a couple of ww2 anti tank brass shell casings i have in the shed "but guard they really are for my cz.22":D

poulo6.5

welsummer wrote: »

what do you all do with you spent centre fire cases .
i always put them in my pocket and chuck them in a bucket when i get home.
i was always hoped that home loading would become legal in this country and i could start using them.
Any light at the end if the tunel on the home loading!!!
i now have a bucket full of them and dont know what to do with them.

i know how you feel. i must have hundreds of 6.5x55 and .223 shells at home. i just cant bring my self to throw them out.

i wouldnt mind even giving them to some one that would use them. i would love to get into re loading my own,

can you imagine being arrested for having spent shells. i would not be able to keep a straight face if a gard tried to do me on that one. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

buckasssailor

If you go up north and show you licence they might give you some powder
I know a few who do it and get 1kg at a time

It wasn't me!

buckasssailor wrote: »

If you go up north and show you licence they might give you some powder
I know a few who do it and get 1kg at a time

Yeah, and that's fine as long as it stays in the north, but coming back over the border, you just illegally imported explosives. It's so very nearly possible to reload at the moment. It's possible to get the licence to store the powder and primers and, as I recall, the one to reload, but you can't get the importation licence to import the powder and primers, which is the sticking point. Roll on the revised and consolidated explosives legislation, which will doubtless not make the provisions we want it to.

Damo123

Im just a little curious.... whats the point of reloading... I doubt you save much money, and is it really worth the hassle? Then the cost of tools and time it takes to make them... Im new to shooting, so sorry for newb question. But I really cant see any reason for reloading?

It wasn't me!

Damo123 wrote: »

Im just a little curious.... whats the point of reloading... I doubt you save much money, and is it really worth the hassle? Then the cost of tools and time it takes to make them... Im new to shooting, so sorry for newb question. But I really cant see any reason for reloading?

You probably won't spend less, but you'll shoot a lot more for your money. I'm currently running a .25-06 with 100 grain Nosler ballistic tips, and that's costing €2.25 a round. Reloading would get that down to the area of about €0.60 for equivalent quality components. The ammunition can then be tweaked to give the best and most consistent results, far and above what factory ammunition is capable of. The only way to get the best out of a centrefire rifle is to handload for it. So you save a fortune if you only shoot the same amount, or you get three times the shooting and much higher quality ammunition for the same expenditure. The actual kit pays for itself in a relatively short time. as to the time and hassle, if you want your rifle to shoot its best, then yeah, it's totally worthwhile, makes a nice little hobby for those manky evenings when there's nothing better to do.

Damo123

It wasn't me! wrote: »

You probably won't spend less, but you'll shoot a lot more for your money. I'm currently running a .25-06 with 100 grain Nosler ballistic tips, and that's costing €2.25 a round. Reloading would get that down to the area of about €0.60 for equivalent quality components. The ammunition can then be tweaked to give the best and most consistent results, far and above what factory ammunition is capable of. The only way to get the best out of a centrefire rifle is to handload for it. So you save a fortune if you only shoot the same amount, or you get three times the shooting and much higher quality ammunition for the same expenditure. The actual kit pays for itself in a relatively short time. as to the time and hassle, if you want your rifle to shoot its best, then yeah, it's totally worthwhile, makes a nice little hobby for those manky evenings when there's nothing better to do.

Alrite thanks It wasn't me!... Not that I thought about it very much but I was kinda under the impression that anything from the factory would be top notch... whereas a home job would be more likely to shoot funny. So really its the other way around. Just one last question (sorry for hijacking this thread), but why can someone make better bullets at home (as a hobby) then the facotry can when thats all they specialise in.... and their massive budget, accesss to tools etc... Are they cutting corners or something?

It wasn't me!

Damo123 wrote: »

Alrite thanks It wasn't me!... Not that I thought about it very much but I was kinda under the impression that anything from the factory would be top notch... whereas a home job would be more likely to shoot funny. So really its the other way around. Just one last question (sorry for hijacking this thread), but why can someone make better bullets at home (as a hobby) then the facotry can when thats all they specialise in.... and their massive budget, accesss to tools etc... Are they cutting corners or something?

Different rifles like different ammo. It's why you may have to try a good few different brands and types to get one that shoots accurately for you. It's down to the harmonic of your barrel when fired. Factory ammo is also very limited in scope. There are a wealth of bullets available for the home-loader not present in factory ammo, so if one wants to use those then the only option is to handload them. Another factor is that factory ammo will be quite bland and generic, so as to work in a broad selection of rifles, and as such, will quite likely not be particularly special in any of them.

The essence of home-loading is to decide a bullet you want to use, that may not be available in a commercial loading, then add quality components (brass, powder and primers) to have a top notch product, then skillfully combine them and work up a load based on gradually increasing the amount of powder used until you either achieve the velocity you're looking for or you find the accuracy node you're looking for (the velocity which causes your barrel to flex upon firing in such a way as to be most accurate). Then you do all this for less than half the price of factory ammo, with far greater returns.

buckasssailor

well they bring it over the border but one is a cop dony know if that has any thing to do with it tho

It wasn't me!

buckasssailor wrote: »

well they bring it over the border but one is a cop dony know if that has any thing to do with it tho

They can break laws too. The DoJ have made not issuing the import licences a policy, so it's not happening legally unless they imported it when it was possible to legally do so.

deerhunter1

Tricky1127 wrote: »

Used brass is classed a new ammo say it`s not so....?????

No there not, they are only brass casings, not rounds or bullets,

bunny shooter

deerhunter1 wrote: »

No there not, they are only brass casings, not rounds or bullets,

Yes they are

They are a component part therefore the are considered ammo (gone looking for link )

deerhunter1

buckasssailor wrote: »

If you go up north and show you licence they might give you some powder
I know a few who do it and get 1kg at a time

They will,half the bloody shooting people are reloading I would say (that is my opinion) go up north and buy and reload.

Glensman

I'm gonna try my hand by sayin that if anyone does want to offload some spent cases (because it'd be a crime to throw them out :rolleyes:) I'd be happy to take whatever you have... Especially .223 and .270...

Rovi

bunny shooter wrote: »

deerhunter1 wrote: »

No there not, they are only brass casings, not rounds or bullets,

Yes they are

They are a component part therefore the are considered ammo (gone looking for link )

Behold, the Criminal Justice Act 2006, specifically page 35 (PART 5, Amendment of Firearms Acts, Section 26) (my emboldening for emphasis):

26.—Section 1 of the Principal Act is amended by the substitution
of the following subsection for subsection (1):
“(1) In this Act—
“ammunition” (except where used in relation to a prohibited
weapon) means ammunition for a firearm and includes—
...
(b) any ingredient or component part of any such ammunition
or missile...

cavan shooter

a long long time ago when I had hair, I used to sneak onto the range at Gormanstown and collect empty 303 and fn rounds. :rolleyes: I am screwed,:( I have loads in the attic including from a field cannon that as a student I used as a Fancy drinking mug.:eek::eek:

I collect the empty hornet rounds and put in a box

Rovi

deerhunter1 wrote: »

They will,half the bloody shooting people are reloading I would say (that is my opinion) go up north and buy and reload.

Whether they are or they aren't, it's currently not legally possible to import the necessary components into the Republic of Ireland.

I'll choose to interpret what you're saying above to mean that people should go north to buy and reload there, as advocating otherwise would be a breach of the Shooting Forum Charter (Advocating, condoning or soliciting information about breaking the law is prohibited...).
Of course, anyone choosing to go north and reload there would have to do so in compliance with whatever Laws and Regulations apply there.


Here's the latest information on reloading in the Republic of Ireland:
ANNOUNCEMENT: MNSCI & NRAI Pilot Cartridge Reloading Scheme

Hezz700

deerhunter1 wrote: »

They will,half the bloody shooting people are reloading I would say (that is my opinion) go up north and buy and reload.

Ummmh...

I reckon the less said about this kinda thing the better.;)

Well done to the lad at MNSCI & NRAI for getting this far, and lets hope it blossoms into something more tangible and excessible to the wider shooting community.:cool:

Hezz

Tricky1127

a long long time ago when I had hair, I used to sneak onto the range at Gormanstown and collect empty 303 and fn rounds. :rolleyes: I am screwed,:( I have loads in the attic including from a field cannon that as a student I used as a Fancy drinking mug.:eek::eek:

I collect the empty hornet rounds and put in a box


I did the same when i was a kid and it was the height of the bad days up North .303 it was the FCA playing and if it was 7.62 it was the Army "still have a Hair but now its on my back"

A Little know fact that range is rented by IDF from a local farmer

johngalway

It doesn't escape me the tone towards my first post in this thread. Fair enough. Does it happen on a daily basis, no, of course not. My point was, that if you have a limit for 200 rounds, you have 150 "live" rounds, and keep say 200 empty brass, you're technically doing something illegal. That's the law, it's nothing to do with common sense or right or wrong.

Will the ordinary shooter get done for that? In 99% of cases probably not. If something bad, an accident, a crime, pissing off the wrong cop, happens and you get caught up in it, my point was you could be done for having more ammo than you're entitled to.