Kaspersky Internet Security PC World

T-Bird

I got 3 user Kaspersky Internet Security in PC World with free 3 user Tuneup utilities 2009 included for 29.99 :eek:. Price of the Virus software alone was 59.99 in there. That must be about an 80% saving on the both.

Also got a Netgear 500gb Home media server for 79.99 saving 90.00.

EDIT: Just found out that the tuneup utilities 2009 is not compatable with Windows 7. tuneup Utilities 2010 is an upgrade that has to be purchased.

lods

thundermuppet wrote: »

I got 3 user Kaspersky Internet Security in PC World with free 3 user Tuneup utilities 2009 included for 29.99 :eek:. Price of the Virus software alone was 59.99 in there. That must be about an 80% saving on the both.

Also got a Netgear 500gb Home media server for 79.99 saving 90.00.

EDIT: Just found out that the tuneup utilities 2009 is not compatable with Windows 7. tuneup Utilities 2010 is an upgrade that has to be purchased.

Had major problems with Kaspersky, wouldn't recommend it.

a_l_a_n

thundermuppet wrote: »

I got 3 user Kaspersky Internet Security in PC World with free 3 user Tuneup utilities 2009 included for 29.99 :eek:. Price of the Virus software alone was 59.99 in there. That must be about an 80% saving on the both.

Also got a Netgear 500gb Home media server for 79.99 saving 90.00.

EDIT: Just found out that the tuneup utilities 2009 is not compatable with Windows 7. tuneup Utilities 2010 is an upgrade that has to be purchased.

I just got AVG anti-virus and Avast! anti-virus for FREE on the Internet :eek: 29.99 is no bargain; its a rip. Don't waste your money friends.

http://free.avg.com/ww-en/homepage
http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download

Nolimits

lods wrote: »

Had major problems with Kaspersky, wouldn't recommend it.

I've had kaspersky for years and found it absolutely great, its one of the few pieces of software that I'd actually buy.

T-Bird

a_l_a_n wrote: »

I just got AVG anti-virus and Avast! anti-virus for FREE on the Internet :eek: 29.99 is no bargain; its a rip. Don't waste your money friends.

http://free.avg.com/ww-en/homepage
http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download

For the basic user AVG and Avast may be good enough. I have used both of those and they do not find all viruses. Avira Antivir is a better alternative. Best of all is microsofts new Security Essentials http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/l. It is actualy rated up there with the top ones that you can buy http://www.av-comparatives.org/. I ran Security Essential in tandem with Bit Defender last year last year to try it out and it found more than Bit Defender.

cdemt1

If you do want Kaspersky buy a 2009 version and upgrade it for free off the Kaspersky site

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Kaspersky-Internet-Security-2009-5-User-1-Year_W0QQitemZ180468416380QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Software_Software_SR?hash=item2a04c17f7c

Is one place on ebay, £14 stg delivered for 5 User

savemejebus

or you could just get the full avg for 3 users for £5.99 incl shipping http://www.zavvi.com/computing/software/avg-family-internet-security-3-users-1-year/10070184.html

ThunbergsAreGo

bit more interested in the Netgear Media server

is there any way you can connect to a tv using this?

Johnny Storm

Microsoft Security Esentials is also completely free and works great.
(regards
Bill G.)

TempUser

currently have 41 days left on my Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0

Any codes or offers to update - seems to be some 3 users for 1 year, looking for more 1 users for 2/3 years

think I got it for €15 for 2 years ago.. they are looking for €40 for a year

cgarrad

Microsoft Security Essentials is the one alright.

Dont forget its Microsoft windows your protecting.

You wouldn't use VW parts on a Honda ;-)

ajc100

cgarrad wrote: »

Microsoft Security Essentials is the one alright.

Dont forget its Microsoft windows your protecting.

You wouldn't use VW parts on a Honda ;-)

You would if it was cheaper and done the same job or better!

AlmightyCushion

cgarrad wrote: »

Microsoft Security Essentials is the one alright.

Dont forget its Microsoft windows your protecting.

You wouldn't use VW parts on a Honda ;-)

Using that logic we should all be using internet explorer, windows media player, paint, notepad, windows mail, windows movie maker etc. Just because microsoft makes a good operating system doesn't mean there isn't better alternatives to the other software they make.

Ruu_Old

The code 'cpcode2010' gets 20% off which would bring a 1 year, 1 license product to 27.99 of your European dollars.

cgarrad

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Using that logic we should all be using internet explorer, windows media player, paint, notepad, windows mail, windows movie maker etc. Just because microsoft makes a good operating system doesn't mean there isn't better alternatives to the other software they make.

I completely agree but when it comes to Windows security there is no way MS are sharing all the info they have with the multiple different vendors.

That poses a security risk in itself.

MS's rep has been hit hard by spywear so they seem to have pulled the plug out on this one, best part being ITS FREE

Anyway its the usual "get it right the third time" once again for them ;-)

Johnny Storm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Using that logic we should all be using internet explorer, windows media player, paint, notepad, windows mail, windows movie maker etc. ....

What's the problem?
love
Bill G.

G1032

Nolimits wrote: »

I've had kaspersky for years and found it absolutely great, its one of the few pieces of software that I'd actually buy.

+1. It's the one of the only AV software worth having. The other is ESET NOD32
Anything else is just second rate.........

Jimllfixit

I bought Kaspersky 2010 and it slowed down my PC to a crawl. In that time, it said it found 2 Trojans, but I've no idea what they were or what threat they posed.

On the eighth week I lost the rag with the slow PC, and uninstalled it. Peace and happiness broke out.

Then, of course, I began to get a bit paranoid about infections, and re-installed Kaspersky, and re-ran it recently to see how badly infected my PC was. This time, no "threats" after nearly 6 months.

While it was installed, I noticed several programs no longer worked properly, and some not at all. Disk Defragmenter took to finding a problem with a file starting with the magic letter "k". Other simple operations showed an hour-glass as if Windows was actually doing something useful for a change, and then just seemed to fade out, without actually doing whatever it was that they were supposed to do. The other effect was that the Task Manager reckoned Kaspersky was hogging massive amounts of memory.

So I dug and found that you COULD (laboriously) tell Kaspersky to mind its own business, and not keep checking whether Windows Explorer and so on had suddenly and mysteriously developed a life- and PC-threatening disease. However, this involved tracking down at least 30 programs that the PC could find itself running at various times, so I rather got tired of that carry-on. Who knows what "SVCHOST" is or where to find its .exe file?

Then it updated itself, and although I couldn't swear to it, I'd say it must have downloaded 15 or 20 MB of data in the process (we can only get a 1MB download connection, being out in rural paradise, and it was a quarter of an hour on the go). So I poked again, and found that its database contains over 3 MILLION "threats" for which it presumably checks very file you try to open on your PC.

You can see where this is going.

It is going to open your file, whatever it is, and try and compare the code in that file against 3 MILLION patterns of data that it believes is going to wreck your PC.

I'm not a computer buff, but I believe that when you open, say, Mozilla Firefox, it (Firefox) in turn calls up to 22 .dll files, each of which Kaspersky is going to test for 3 MILLION problems. That 66 MILLION checks . . . per application.

And that is only today.

By 1st January 2011 there will, presumably be another million threats to check for. That makes 4 MILLION threats to check against.

Madness.

And not only Kaspersky.

So I got surfing, and quite soon came up with loads of other people like myself, who simply want a quiet life, to type up the odd letter here, and surf the odd site there, and not to have to worry about things.

The second-best idea I picked up was, to have an expendable PC with no anti-virus program or firewall at all, which you just use for surfing. You have an image copy of your favourite W*nd*ws program on a DVD (CDs are already too small) so whenever you get an infection, you wipe your C-drive (2 minutes) and "ghost" your W*nd*ws back on again (10 minutes). Now I'll admit you'd have to find some way of storing and using all your personal stuff without getting it infected, but that would probably be quite a small task, and better than waiting endlessly while your anti-virus program churns its way through endless and increasing amounts of data.

The VERY best idea (or so it seems to me) is to change over to Linux, which the virus guys haven't really copped onto just yet.

If you got this far, you deserve a pat on the back for sheer persistence.

Must download Ubuntu now, and go on a low-cholesterol diet. Thre IS a connection, trust me.

Lawdie

lods wrote: »

Had major problems with Kaspersky, wouldn't recommend it.

Using this software for a few years now and no issues, ever.

faral

im using computers since more than 10 years and had never ever installend any antivir cause this is completly usless.honestly.once a years i was rebooting my system and thats it.antiviruses only make ur stuff slower.

tommy21

faral wrote: »

im using computers since more than 10 years and had never ever installend any antivir cause this is completly usless.honestly.once a years i was rebooting my system and thats it.antiviruses only make ur stuff slower.

I see that you also refuse to bow to the tyranny of the spell checker and grammar function.

Interceptor

tommy21 wrote: »

I see that you also refuse to bow to the tyranny of the spell checker and grammar function.

Its called 'being furrin'. You probably can't tell though since you are so far up on that high horse.

I also stopped using Kasperski after it slowed my machine to a crawl. I tried using nothing and re-installing windows but I got paranoid about bad people stealing my credit card details and I installed AVG.

I must research linux/ubuntu

'cptr

faral

tommy21 wrote: »

I see that you also refuse to bow to the tyranny of the spell checker and grammar function.

well excuse my spelling but im not Irish and English is not my mother tongue....anyway u did understand what I said so its not to bad, is it?

T-Bird

Have to agree that Kaspersky is a flaming hog these past few months and my PC takes forever to start up before I can use it. And I also keep on changing it for something else and then reinstalling it again. Sometimes I got a message telling me something similar to a keylogger has been found. And its messages like these that keeps moving me back.

Don't think that going "unprotected" is an option, tried it a few times when i had XP and explorer 7. It was a gateway to everything.

Linux has fewer viruses because it only has a very small market. Free virus checkers are starting to appear there as it grows in popularity. I guess that once Ubuntu's buy me software service starts to take a hold it will get a lot more attention from the virus writers and fixers (are they the same?). Linux will start to get slow and.....

Fnz

Unconvinced by the anecdotal reviews in this thread? Prefer to hear from folk who review this stuff in a more professional capacity? Since this has become a review thread anyway...

Check out this link for reviews of a number of security products: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358764,00.asp

Check out this link to see security software recommendations from a site that offers free tech support (sounds dodgy but are a reputable site): http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topic/38-free-antivirus-and-antispyware-software/


You can download most if not all these applications at www.download.com - where you can check out even more reviews should you so desire.

Jimllfixit

I find it odd that some contributors get on well with Kaspersky, and some, like myself, loath it. There is a huge difference between experiences.

However, it doesn't get around the basic problem with any AV program, that the number of viruses that can be written is infinite, and the longer the drip-feed of new viruses goes on, the more time ANY AV software is going to have to take to process the files you want to download. My minutes of waiting for such as Kaspersky might seem like a pleasant dream in the not-too-distant future.

Surely the software gurus could come up with a new operating system, where file tampering cannot occur in the first place? and perhaps one that didn't require gigabytes of data to boot up the computer, and draw a simple desktop screen? Oops, I digressed. But no grammatical slips, I think.

Keano

Jimllfixit wrote: »

Surely the software gurus could come up with a new operating system, where file tampering cannot occur in the first place?

That would be nice but never going to happen. If one was launched and they claimed it was impossible to break, someone somewhere would break into eventually.

Jimllfixit

I'd have thought you could have a system like in spy novels where you send an encryption code separately to the message, and you have to have both to decode it. Heck, isn't that what's done already? So why do we need anti-virus programs? Maybe a previous contributor was right, A/V is a load of baloney?

And how do you test if an A/V program is working anyway? Can you buy a virus-riddled file to see if your protection does what it says on the lid?

Let's bring back capital punishment for virus makers! That'd soon sort out the real honchos from the nerds & geeks.

Esel

Jimllfixit wrote: »

... long-winded OT opinion ...

You dug up an 8-month old thread in BA to go OT on the cons of Kaspersky? :mad: Get with the program here!

Razzuh

Originally Posted by lods
Had major problems with Kaspersky, wouldn't recommend it.

+2 on Kaspersky. It's the only software I pay for. They get updates out faster than anyone else. Don't bother with the full internet security though, the AV is all you need. It monitors network traffic and prevents viruses ever getting a hold on the system. I've never known it to miss a virus in 6 years. On resource hogging, I find it very efficient.

AVG is terrible and gets worse each year. If you want to go free, Windows essentials is the best at the moment in my book.

Jimllfixit

esel wrote: »

You dug up an 8-month old thread in BA to go OT on the cons of Kaspersky? :mad: Get with the program here!

It's true, being a sad old man, I had to dig up an ancient thread to find a place for my Kaspersky woes. But look! there's a new K. lover just posted. Some like it, some don't.

The real point is that CP/M, DOS, Gem (never heard of it? shame on you!) and then Windows all evolved without any particular plan, except to make it easier for people to operate computers with disk systems. By the time the first virus appeared, Bill was already in far too deep to do anything about it, and it's been the same with Windows ever since. In holland, they patch the dikes.

In 1992 you could run a complete company financial system using about 300K of disk space. Now it takes something like 40MB of A/V program to get rid of something that shouldn't be there in the first place.

It's been good to get it off my chest. Now I must list a few things on Ebay and take the dogs for a walk. And go and find another thread to bitch about something on. Maybe one that would tackle the mounting financial problems in this island. Let's have a revolt like the French - maybe the politicians would wake up from their respective trances and do something productive. Like start up a wind turbine industry. Careful, now, let's not get carried away.

And I must go and read a grammar book (you're not supposed to start a sentence with the word "and").

Esel

Nice reply! Apologies for coming across a bit snitty. I should have used a smilie instead.

Jimllfixit

esel wrote: »

Nice reply! Apologies for coming across a bit snitty. I should have used a smilie instead.

That's Ok! The smilie I really love (and which is a window into my soul) is one of Pacman drinking black beer out of an endlessly refilling galss.

But back to anti-virus programs: I did notice, to be fair to Kaspersky, that it seemed to discover more "problems" than other A/V programs that I had run just previously to K., but it does cause trouble, presumably by ferretting around all the time. the latest they told me was that it didn't like the Defragmenter and treated it as requiring self-defence, and has to have things turned off before you can maintain your PC. I ask you!