Deltawing IndyCar

smooch71

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81386


Looks like April's come early this year.

amacachi

I'm the batman!

Can't say I'm impressed, would really prefer to see performance pushed rather than fuel economy. Still, I'd've thought Lola and Dallara would've been the likely winners in the end. Also it really, really doesn't look like it would be capable of anywhere near the quoted top speed in the the turns.

smooch71

They'll be lucky if it turns at all.

My money's on the Swift chassis. Its reminiscent of the mid 90's Indycars before the split, but with a modern twist.

How they may have looked had the split not happened in fact.

amacachi

Any pics around of the others?

smooch71

amacachi wrote: »

Any pics around of the others?

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-2012-stampede-under-way/

f1dan

That deltawing car looks ridiculous. Here's another article.

http://jalopnik.com/5466957/is-this-the-2012-indy-car

smooch71

f1dan wrote: »

That deltawing car looks ridiculous. Here's another article.

http://jalopnik.com/5466957/is-this-the-2012-indy-car

Yep

That's the Swift one. They manufactured Indycars (Champcar at the time) up until 99 I think. Newman Haas used them.

This is car that looks like a classic Indycar and if there's any justice, this is the one that'll be chosen.

If it's the deltawing, then its so long Indycar, nice knowing you.

TheChrisD

The Deltawing car looks nothing like an opem-wheeler at all. The whole concept of an open-wheel racing series are that the wheels are, y'know, open.

It looks like a mix between a Le Mans Series car and a space shuttle

smooch71

LIGHTNINGtemp wrote: »

I like it! And it is open wheel single seater as all the wheels are non enclosed. Plus it looks like the batmobile so thats and added plus

And whoever designed it belongs in Arkham!

A racing car it ain't.

Oblomov

Radical and futuristic... way to go.... get away from the ' same old shape', move into the future.

The Americans will love it, new and modern... painted in modern team colours with 'decent' paint jobs.... metal flake and pearlescent
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Slutmonkey57b

The Delta Wing is clearly not an "open wheel" design, but full credit to Indy Cars for allowing this sort of experimental design. F1 is unfortunately going in the opposite direction - creating a "spec" series without actually engaging a single chassis supplier.

smooch71

The four contenders have all revealed their entries if anyone is interested:

Lola
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-2012-lola-revealed/

Dallara and Swift
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-2012-stampede-under-way/

Deltawing
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-inside-the-delta-wing-project/

As a longtime, passionate fan of the IndyCar World Series that ran until 1996 and the Champcar series that followed it, IndyCar needs to return to anything that the fans will identify with that period.

Some of the designs may seem conservative but they spark memories of the old cars and that may bring back the fans that were lost to Nascar during the "Open Wheel Civil War"

Radical designs like the Deltawing that look nothing like an open wheel racing car will drive away the few remaining fans and the IRL will just shut up shop. Something they should have done 14 years ago.

frostie500

smooch71 wrote: »

The four contenders have all revealed their entries if anyone is interested:

As a longtime, passionate fan of the IndyCar World Series that ran until 1996 and the Champcar series that followed it, IndyCar needs to return to anything that the fans will identify with that period.

Some of the designs may seem conservative but they spark memories of the old cars and that may bring back the fans that were lost to Nascar during the "Open Wheel Civil War"

Radical designs like the Deltawing that look nothing like an open wheel racing car will drive away the few remaining fans and the IRL will just shut up shop. Something they should have done 14 years ago.

To be honest if Indy Cars want to recapture the fans they lost to NASCAR they need to offer what NASCAR doesnt-variation. Have a few different cars, engines and tyres in the field and go back to the series that race fans all over the world loved. I remember when I started watching CART there were Reynard, Lola, Penske and Eagle chassis, Merc, Ford, Honda and Toyota engines and a tyre war. It was this competition that allowed the series to attract Formula 1 drivers and world class drivers to the series. The caliber of driver that it must be said is lacking in Indy Cars now. It is the model of CART that needs to be recreated because the IRL never was able to attract the sponsors needed to be a profitable series.

As you say if they go down the 'shock' road of the Deltawing they will lose the fans they have and not get any back from NASCAR. I honestly think that if Indy Cars are to get back to being a respected series that the worlds top drivers view as viable it is imperative that they open the regs to allow for competition and for teams like Penske to construct their own cars again if they view it as an option.

smooch71

frostie500 wrote: »

To be honest if Indy Cars want to recapture the fans they lost to NASCAR they need to offer what NASCAR doesnt-variation. Have a few different cars, engines and tyres in the field and go back to the series that race fans all over the world loved. I remember when I started watching CART there were Reynard, Lola, Penske and Eagle chassis, Merc, Ford, Honda and Toyota engines and a tyre war. It was this competition that allowed the series to attract Formula 1 drivers and world class drivers to the series. The caliber of driver that it must be said is lacking in Indy Cars now. It is the model of CART that needs to be recreated because the IRL never was able to attract the sponsors needed to be a profitable series.

As you say if they go down the 'shock' road of the Deltawing they will lose the fans they have and not get any back from NASCAR. I honestly think that if Indy Cars are to get back to being a respected series that the worlds top drivers view as viable it is imperative that they open the regs to allow for competition and for teams like Penske to construct their own cars again if they view it as an option.

Have to agree with all of that.

Whatever chance there is of multiple engine choices (and they appear to be diminishing now as more manufacturers are dropping out apparently) the IRL are firm on only one chassis supplier and only one tyre supplier.

frostie500

smooch71 wrote: »

Have to agree with all of that.

Whatever chance there is of multiple engine choices (and they appear to be diminishing now as more manufacturers are dropping out apparently) the IRL are firm on only one chassis supplier and only one tyre supplier.

Well they better hope they keep Danica Patrick in the series otherwise there's gonna be no chance of getting sponsors in!